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AppGameKit Classic Chat / Where can I see all of ver.2 functions?

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Alex_Peres
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 14:33 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 14:35
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Hello guys! Trying to decide, stay with AppGameKit or move to another game-engine(maybe Unity). Because I don't know anything about the new AppGameKit functions in the second version and when it will be released (just some promised features). What you guys are thinking about that some game-engines already have stabile work, full game-dev features, many file-formats support (fbx,3ds,ogg, etc..), multi-platform support with fast porting and even visual-based game creation, which helps you to create games much easier? Is there any sense to stay with AppGameKit and wait for a very important functionality I need? Cause I'm an indie developer and the more game-engine helps me, the better!
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 14:38 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 14:40
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v2 is still in developement, you can see new features/progress in kickstarter.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tgc/app-game-kit-v2/posts

i like also shiva engine/game maker/fusion , its very good.
shiva engine is good for 3d.
other big games engines price is ~200 EURO

fusion is visual editing,it look easy but it did not do what you expect^^

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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 15:00 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 15:02
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Unity Pro cost $1500, but there is free version with cutted functionality(but even with that functionality you'll get very and very powerful tool!). With AppGameKit If you earn > $100'000 on your game - you must pay $1000, so it's not a big difference. And even if you pay more for better engine - that money saves your time and improve the game-quality to earn much more on your game! So I'm thinking...

And I know about that features. I need to see all of commands.
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 15:14
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i had tryed all engines 2012, just choose what best fit your needings.
where you found this?
Quote: "With AppGameKit If you earn > $100'000 on your game - you must pay $1000"


there exist only a new offline help with installed v2 alpha.
i think u need ask paul for this command list.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 16:39
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"With AppGameKit If you earn > $100'000 on your game - you must pay $1000" -

It's not my imagination.
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 16:55 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 16:55
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i mean i want know where you saw/read this.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 17:49
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/App_Game_Kit

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The standard price for AppGameKit is $59. However companies with turnover greater than $100,000 have to pay $999 per computer.
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 18:23 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 18:26
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hmm, Pricing there at wiki is not official,no References there.
v2 will cost much more later. ~150€
shop now said "All games created with AppGameKit are royalty free!"

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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 21:07
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Quote: "Unity Pro cost $1500, but there is free version with cutted functionality(but even with that functionality you'll get very and very powerful tool!). With AppGameKit If you earn > $100'000 on your game - you must pay $1000, so it's not a big difference."
If you earned enough for that AppGameKit clause to come into effect then you surely wouldn't worry about handing over 1% of it.

And if you thought you were going to earn $100k+ and Unity Pro was so much more powerful and more productive then you wouldn't be worried about spending $1500 on that either. You would already have bought it.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 22:02
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I'm spending a lot of time to make my games. 1,5-2 years for each. Most of time I'm drawing, modeling and animating. So I have no time to search the engines and learn new ones. So I need to decide or continue with AppGameKit or move to the other one. And without full list of ver.2 commands I'm confused...
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Posted: 1st Oct 2014 22:16 Edited at: 1st Oct 2014 22:40
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you do not need to learn the engine, just take a week to test the demo versions.
for 3d i whould say on this world exists 5 good ones,
3 of them can handle 3d animations well and they have an level editor.
unity,shiva,unreal,Torque,...
for 3d animations u need fbx or (open) collada import if u not
create the models in the editor from engine.

the 3d part commands are not full implemendet in v2 alpha,
so nobody knows the comming commands.

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Posted: 2nd Oct 2014 14:41 Edited at: 2nd Oct 2014 16:18
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Thank you Markus. But I think I've made my choice. Unity it's a great tool full of features. If even Blizzard and Rovio have chosen Unity, it's big deal. AppGameKit doesn't even support non-unicode characters... I had to create this by my self, thanks to C++... Finishing this AppGameKit project and will move to Unity...
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2014 16:54
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The higher price is also on the official AppGameKit webbsite.

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Posted: 3rd Oct 2014 04:01
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Quote: "With AppGameKit If you earn > $100'000 on your game - you must pay $1000"


We don't have that any more

Quote: "The higher price is also on the official AppGameKit webbsite."


I can't see it, can you point it out so I can remove it?
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Posted: 3rd Oct 2014 16:56
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Sorry, on my phone and just recalled that it used to say that.

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