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jasuk70

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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 21:03           | link | toggle

Firstly select a segment to create the room. For this room I've chosen the full lab room.



I've now drawn the room freehand by clicking on the left mouse button while dragging the mouse around the grid to create the room seen below.



Next I've moved up a floor and selected the draw floor icon to draw the floor of a room. Using the icon next to it I could just draw the walls.



Using the same method, with the left mouse button and dragging the mouse around, I've added the roof to the room below.



Next I click on the markers and then select the start position arrow (Green) rotate it to the direction I require and then left click to place it in the bottom left corner of the room.



Next I go to the entities list and select a generator entity which I'd like to add to the room.



Next I place it in the top left hand corner of the room by left clicking there.



I've zoomed in to make it easier to place the entities and have placed lots of static entities. I've decided to also place a character (Sci-Fi Conker unarmed) there too, but in this case I want him to be static. As you can see from the picture the shroud is green which means an active entity.



Pressing a key will turn it to a static entity. Next I decide to light the scene by placing different relevant coloured lights at different intensities around the scene, white for the door, red for the generator, green for the green tubes and blue for all the blue objects.



Next I go into to the level information file and select no ambient light as I want my lights I've added to light the scene.



Next I click test game....



And I've just realised I've previously selected full lightmapping so time to twiddle my thumbs a bit a post the first bit of this

Next I will post the view inside the room

This first bit too 10 Mins to do. And it took that long due to me grabbing screen shots...

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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 21:07     Edited: 25th Jan 2005 21:08     | link | toggle

WOW YEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS WHAT WE NEEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE IN-GAME SCREENSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!1


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 21:09           | link | toggle

Wooow! That looks so cool!!!

Canīt wait for you to upload the next pics!

GREAT MAN!


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 21:39           | link | toggle

Were is our in-game pic?


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 21:59           | link | toggle

Switched to quick lightmapping for now and realised I'd not quite got the lighting correct (Quick lightmapping took 20 secs to generate on my PC) Will do a full one, once the lighting looks better.



Decided to add a light stand and place a yellow light on it.



Fine Tuning the light position next.



Next just for fun, put a red light on the corpse table.



And fine position it.



Back to quick testing the level...



Move around a bit.



Will work on a full light map and show the difference over night.




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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:03           | link | toggle

OH MY FREAKIN` GOD!

I canīt wait any more for this...

That looks DAMN good!
Please post some more, you canīt mean you will wait untill tomorrow?

I CAN`T WAIT THAT LONG


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The Nerd

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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:04           | link | toggle

COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL!!!! THANKS JASUK FOR THE AWSOME PICS!!!!!!!

I will look forward to the next pics


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:08           | link | toggle

I'm suffering from that nice cold bug going around and am having to regually clean the screen due to sneezing on it so started lightmapping fully and am going to get some kip. Will post tomorrow UK.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:10           | link | toggle

okay i will look forward to it


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:45           | link | toggle

Now thats a nice explanation,thanks

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 02:27           | link | toggle

know what this means, they wouldnt release us the manuel, but were getting info on how to create stuff now, so maybe were close here...

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 08:41           | link | toggle

Wicked Screenies!

And well done jasuk

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 08:56           | link | toggle

Full Lightmapped screenie...



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Mr Flowerkohl

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 08:59           | link | toggle

now , THAT looks nice *drooling*

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 08:59           | link | toggle

Cool!

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Mr Flowerkohl

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 10:49           | link | toggle

Could you make one screenshot with full lightmapping without those colored lights ? that we can see the shadows.... would be very very nice thanks a lot !

PS: when come's the new newsletter ?

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 11:36           | link | toggle

Post more!!!
Show us trigger events! And enemy AI? PLEASE!
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 11:48           | link | toggle

Quote: "Could you make one screenshot with full lightmapping without those colored lights ? that we can see the shadows.... would be very very nice"
How about you wait 4-5 hours for full lightmapping? and then ask that...

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 11:58           | link | toggle

@Mr Flowerkiohl,
You mean you can't see the shadows the coloured lights are showing . Unfortunatly when you remove all the coloured lights, you end up with a lot of darkness due to there being no lights to light the level .

@Jordan Siddall,
I have to do some more testing with the new versions before I can do another one of these kind of things (Plus I have a day job). Other beta testers may be able to post similar things though when they get chance.

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Mr Flowerkohl

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 12:37           | link | toggle

@coldnews
Ok...i haven't known that it takes so long. 4-5 hours ?????? only for one room ?

@jasuk70
I can see "dark corners" but no shadows. i mean, a shadow which is projected on the ground from a chair or something. shadow - not darkness !

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 13:08           | link | toggle

The last picture above shows projected shadows. On the floor from the table - top right for instance, and the block like object to the left of it.
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jasuk70

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 13:10           | link | toggle

Hmm, I can see shadows, maybe it's just me.

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 13:17           | link | toggle



yeah...thats the ticket !
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 13:45     Edited: 26th Jan 2005 13:47     | link | toggle

Is that you CAN see the shadows?

I presume what I can see are shadows from those objects. They are not hard eged but soft shadows so are not very distinct.

I guess if the floor or room was white only with a single object like a table or chair in camera view and one light placed you would see the shadow cast in a better LIGHT if you excuse the pun.

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 14:45           | link | toggle

this is what i was asking for. didn see it properly. thats why i asked for a brighter scene

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 21:01     Edited: 26th Jan 2005 21:12     | link | toggle

A quicky one....



Editor View....



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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 21:05           | link | toggle

FPSC keeps on surprising me!!! Shadows look pretty damn good!

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 21:12           | link | toggle

Yeha, that is nice. I also kind of like the shadows on this image: http://fpsc.rdu.dk/file/wwii/fpsc_test_0019.jpg

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 21:18     Edited: 26th Jan 2005 21:18     | link | toggle

This is what we need!


Thanks for all the great pic`s Jasuk!
Keep on posting some new ones


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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 22:16           | link | toggle

ok. Thanks a lot ! This answered my question cool shadows

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 23:39           | link | toggle

About the lights. . .can you have an entitie giving off light instead of light just coming from nowhere?

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Posted: 27th Jan 2005 00:15           | link | toggle

"Sir Daniel" Place the light in the same place as the entity.
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Posted: 27th Jan 2005 01:09           | link | toggle

Jasuk,

First thanks very, very much for taking the time to do all of those step-by-step screenshots. That was EXTREMELY nice and helpful.

If I may I have 2 questions:

1) In the "quicky" shot above what room type are those walls from (armory? hanger? etc.) In the white light they look like nice generic futuristic walls perfect for a lots of uses

and

2) Is replacing a wall texture easy to do within FPSC (through a browse for file dialog) or do you need to replace the texture(s) in a subfolder holding the prefab/entity?

(actually now that I think about it I'm sure I saw such a thing for entities in one of the editor screenshots, but is this the same for prefabs... I guess what I'm getting at is do "walls" have any kind of attributes you can alter in the program. Thanks!)
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