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Dark GDK / Dark Game SDK 1.1.1 Beta

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Mike Johnson
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2005 08:08
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You can now download the latest version in beta form from http://www.thegamecreators.com/?m=order_history. The file is listed as the beta upgrade 1.1.1 and is around 3 mb.

The main fixes in this version are related to terrain and the problem with the collision function not casting correctly.

The files you need to install are found in the SDK folder. You will find updated include and lib files here. Copy these over your current include and lib folders. You may want to backup your current files just in case of any problems.

Please report any problems in this thread and I can work through any fixes and upload a new beta. I will also be working on updating the help files and the demos provided with the SDK.
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Sleep. It is good for you. Makes you a better programmer.

Also, how do I order you a pizza?

P.S.
Thanks for the Beta Link.

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Ian's collision program is still failing :




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Mike Johnson
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2005 19:37
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Cellbloc - my freezer is already crammed full with a large collection of pizzas

Bouncy - I tried the example code you provided. It's working perfectly here and I'm using the same libs as those in the beta zip. Are you certain that you are linking to the correct lib files?
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Turns out I had a duplicate set in the same place for some reason, got rid of that and changed the pathing around, and its okay now.


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My application compiles, links and run OK with SDK 1.1.1 and VC6.

I now have to check removing "work-around-a-bug"s and test functionalities I needed.

Thanks.
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2005 11:14 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2005 11:14
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Im pretty certain this is silly question, but I figured its best to be safe rather than sorry - should I install the 1.1 files before 1.1.1 or will each sdk update be the full deal?

(i dunno, maybe the project files for the samples or something were fiddled with 1.1 )

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2005 12:26 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2005 12:27
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hmm, well i installed it, shaders still crash for me. If you provide an invalid path then it simply doesnt show the object at all, if you provide a valid one then it throws an unhandled exception in debug mode and with a normal execute it just hangs for about 20secs and then performs an illegal operation.

This is after opening the samples workspace, setting FX as the active project and hitting rebuild all then start debug->go

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p4 2.4ghz - radeon 9600 thingy, 256megs of gfx ram, 768 of computer ram.

edit- definatly using the latest sdk as i now have to go make some defines for my main project for the changed function names

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2005 17:30 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2005 17:30
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In which either the shaders are for nVidia cards (and thus wont work on an ATI), or your card cant handle it OR there is no media to load (you do move it to the correct place preceeding the media, dont you) ?


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2005 17:30
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Sephnroth - have you stepped through the FX sample program? Can you see the point where everything crashes?
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Okay. It crashes on the dbSetEffectOn lines. Now i commented them out and been trying them one a time. If its just the bubble shader load then it does -not- crash but neither does it display the object in game. both ansio.fx and rainbow.fx cause an unhandled exception.

line 15 in Main.cpp of the FX project:



causes the error - and incidently i also tried (just incase):


which was also no good.

Right, from the diassembly, we are in:
?Load@cSpecialEffect@@UAE_NPAD_N1@Z:

and the line it dies on:

004424E3 call dword ptr [edx+8]

which is 3 lines below:

004424DE je cSpecialEffect::Load+59Ah (004424ea)

incase that helps you find it in your soruce ;

About my card - it really should support all these shaders fine. I run both the latest prince of persia games just fine and they have a high shader -requirment- the game wont even start if you dont support them. Also i use shaders perfectly fine in DBPro and the shader demo in DBPro works in full

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As a second note, dbReadLong appears to of disapeared alltogether from the headers, unless im blind I tried swapping read long with read word but it totally wont have it, my main program engine actually doesnt run now because of this XD The maps load scrambled (in a pretty neat cross hatch pattern actually XD) but what it means is every other tile is a cross section which the engine makes up of 4 wall peices (4 corners) and when its that excess the polys add up, fps grinds down to around about 1 and eventually it keels over and dies XD

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My Dancer demo also crashes out with 1.1.1 - that too uses FX files...


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Its worth noting that if i run fx.exe in the samples/bin folder than it runs fine and the shaders are working bueatifully. Just not if i try and compile it myself. No compile errors, just a runtime crash.

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Hi,

Are you still bug fixing or will this be released as a er, release soon?

Thanks,

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still bug fixing, a new release will be out when it is done
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Hi folks, 5 weeks later so am wondering if you have any idea when the release will appear?

Thanks,

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Not yet it wont.

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Oh...why so categorically certain?

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There is a magical program called MSN Messenger. It lets you talk to people far, far away...

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Ha, unfortunately or fortunately I delete anything and everything to do with M$ (especially comms) from any PC I have, except stuff needed to keep windoze running. I don't trust their software or the company. In fact just having vis studio on my PC makes me nervous because of the online help. Anything that connects to a M$ server without asking me every time is a trojan as far as I'm concerned.

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My... You are paranoid...

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Paranoid, Black Sabbath, yeah

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Any more thoughts about making available the source for a couple of the demos? Or are they already available, and I just don't know where to look?

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To which demos are you refering to ?

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The Dark SDK demos. Or am I in the wrong forum?
http://darkgamesdk.thegamecreators.com/?f=downloads

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Small note about inconnsistant naming. The command dbGetPixelsPointer uses the word pointer and dbGetMemblockPtr uses Ptr.
Well I did say it was small.

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I've found with the 1.1.1 beta that at least two functions produce odd results when compared to 1.1. With the 1.1.1 beta dbObjectSize for some of my models gives values like -42201683186052844000000000000000000000.000000 also dbObjectInScreen will not work for these models either, it always reports 0.
I can provide the code and model samples through e-mail if wanted.

Other than dbRGB, dbRGBB, dbRGBR, and dbRGBG being renamed dbRgb, dbRgbB, dbRgbR, dbRgbG; dbReadLong being removed (for which you can just use dbReadFile); dbChecklistString being changed from 2 to 1 parameters, and dbCheckListForFiles being renamed dbPerformCheckListForFiles, I haven't run into any other problems yet.
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Through more testing I believe dbObjectInScreen does appear to be working in the 1.1.1 beta. I think in my first tests I was accidentally compiling in debug mode instead of release mode.

However, dbObjectSize, compiled with release mode is always returning 0.0 for some of my models (both .X and .3DS). Also dbObjectSizeX, dbObjectSizeY and dbObjectSizeZ produce incorrect results, usually 0.0. dbObjectSize worked perfectly for these models in 1.1 but something has changed in the 1.1.1 beta.

Has anyone else seen this?
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not to bug the thread but i read that a person was telling it's website adress on msn (of a site he didn't register nor made available in search engines) and 1 hour after a microsoft bot came to browse it for the msn surf engine or something .

i really believe that troll fiddler has reasons to be careful . and i do like him personnaly .

and will download the beta soon ! since i bought gdk just today !

hey mike ..

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