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Clonkex
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Quote: "It's a shame to have a lack of consistency. It would be much better to choose a method and stick to it otherwise we will be constantly trying to remember "is this a command with the ignore case parameter or the ignore case keyword?"."


I completely agree. I've always said that consistency is vital to a good programming language.


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I would disagree, I think the commands make perfect sense, and as for having to remember which one has a parameter.... The editor shows you in brackets!!

For membkocks though, I agree with the speed issue, and also that it would be awesome to be able to assign a sprite directly to a me block however I'm assuming this is shader territory.
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Quote: "I'm thinking of doing everything through memblocks"

Sounds fantastic... Thanks I'm happy now..


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I'm SO looking for to this release. Create3DPhysics6DOFJoint gives me an idea for a remake of Thrust on C64 - only in 3d! Nice.

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Quote: "I had a quick look at that but it appears it might be an OS issue, someone reported something similar happening to Java, I'll have to wait until I bring the Linux version up to date to confirm."


Huh, interesting. That guy gave up way too easily though

I've done a bit more research and it does appear to be a bug because of the way Linux handles repeat inputs, which is odd. I don't know why they would handle it differently, or at least offer workarounds to get things working properly.


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Paul,

1.) Has the Powers of Two requirement for render images on mobile devices been addressed yet?

OpenGL ES 2.0+ supports NPOT textures (excluding mipmaps and repeat-wrap). In my case I would mostly want to use NPOT render images that match the device resolution exactly for precise manipulation without fear that it will be corrupted and nonfunctional on mobile platforms as it has been in the past. Other uses include dynamic HUD generation which can be in all shapes and sizes. You mentioned you would check into this restriction when starting 3D commands a long time ago.

2.) Have you yet considered providing basic GLBlendFunc support for sprites / render images?

When the AppGameKit Kickstarter announced support for additional blend modes, I anticipated the common ability of setting src/dest GL blend functions and have needed this ability for a couple in-development apps. The only alternative to many easy blend operations is to try and write shaders and use quad object composite rendering, which in my experience has been unpredictable and uncooperative on some devices and is more overhead than needed for simple blend operations. It is something available in most other development platforms and seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to add to AppGameKit given that we already have additive blending etc. Examples.

3.) Please consider allowing custom image names when saving to the photo gallery via PrintImage (applicable on Android) or redoing this command as a parameter of SaveImage.

I have experienced varying levels of success trying to save an image to the photo gallery on Android devices. Sometimes it works properly, others not at all. Tested on Kindle Fire HDX and HP TouchPad in particular. Currently we are stuck with AppName_SavedImage_# but I would prefer custom formatting such as a datestamp in the name etc. Ideally we could save to a sub-folder within the media folder as well. I would propose adding a parameter to the existing SaveImage command rather than using PrintImage for this purpose as that isn't even a documented feature. By adding one more parameter to SaveImage, it could indicate whether to save to the data directory or public gallery directory (i.e., 0 = data write folder, 1 = media gallery).

Thank you for all the work you've been doing on AGK.
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Again... no 3d fog command...
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Quote: "Also the issues with render images on Android."

It's in the bugfix list


Quote: "Is anything happening with shadows?"

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xCept, those are excellent requests/suggestions and I back them 100%. In other words, +1.


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Quote: "Quote: "Is anything happening with shadows?"
They went their own way after splitting with Cliff Richard and released a couple of albums. I think they split for the final time in 2010."


Not THE Shadows! However, if we are in joking mode, then I hope I'm not as old as them before I see them in AGK2.

Seriously though, are they even due to be added? Same with fog, although we can work around that a little more easily than shadows.

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If the next update includes some form of ambient occlusion, I'll be singing Paul praises for the next 100 years
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Lololol

I see what you did there.


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Quote: "They're on my list, although I'm thinking of doing everything through memblocks. So you'd use CreateMemblockFromObjectMesh, modify the memblock, and then SetObjectMeshFromMemblock, since changing the vertex data will have to regenerate the entire mesh anyway. Then you can also do CreateObjectFromMeshMemblock to create a new object directly from a mesh memblock. "


+1 !

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Hi,
I'm not already an expert so correct me if I'm wrong.

On Apple Game Center I have commands for multiplayer (https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/GameKit_Guide/MatchmakingwithGameCenter/MatchmakingwithGameCenter.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008304-CH12-SW2). In Tier 1 (Basic) those commands will be supported soon?

And the Android equivalent?

Are only some commands that could let to implement multiplayer games really fast


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@m0y: This isn't really the place for it, but you can find documentation on all the existing multiplayer commands here.

Quote: "12th September 2015

We're working to bring you all a new build in the next 3-4 weeks time."


We're just about reach the '3' of that 3-4 week target. Hopefully we'll see the release sooner rather than later! I think I'm going to have an embolism or something if I have to wait much longer!


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Nothing wrong with setting possible release dates, after 00011110 years in the game, I know they can provide focus!

However, customers would rather it late and working, in my experience...so no pressure (from me)!!

That said, got my eye on a few list items myself, so ready (and waiting) when you are guys!

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Hi there.

Wonderful piece of soft you are making here. Just a question. In the august dev video, you show the bone´s commands working in a nexus. That,s cool. But... the physic ones? Do they work on android too? It´s a critical point for me to decide buying AppGameKit or not.

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A Beta build is coming (this week hopefully). We'll release Windows and Android builds as a BETA. So watch this space. Once we get feedback from that build we'll then create the other versions.

@Bethleem - yes physics commands are cross platform.
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yell yeah!!!
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I cant wait....im really waiting on these new commands to dabble in the 3d world

Edit: I just had another look at what the new update is going to contain....Im too excited now I shouldn't of looked...I might have to hold Lee for Ransom for an expedited update.
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The Beta WILL be released TODAY!
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SWEEEEEEEEEET! Im so excited....Christmas came early this year!

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Awesome! Top job guys..

Downloaded and tested on my Win7 VM and it worked perfectly. Now to try those long awaited 3d commands

When's the Linux version of 2.0.15 happening?
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My body is ready



Regarding AppGameKit Community Toolkit thread https://forum.thegamecreators.com/thread/212975, I noticed it was closed down.
Can somebody reopen it? Someone might have useful tools to share in the future
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Quote: "Regarding AppGameKit Community Toolkit thread https://forum.thegamecreators.com/thread/212975, I noticed it was closed down.
Can somebody reopen it? Someone might have useful tools to share in the future"


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@ BatVink I'm glad you caught that.
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Hi,

We're preparing the full release and expect to make it live next week (iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Blackberry and Linux).

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Quote: "We're preparing the full release and expect to make it live next week (iOS, Android, Mac, Windows, Blackberry and Linux)."


Fantastic! Thanks for the heads-up Rick
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Hi Rick

will it work with VS2015?
will it work on ios9?

Thanks
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Sounds great Rick! Do you have any roadmap for where we are headed next?
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Quote: "will it work with VS2015?
will it work on ios9?"


YES!
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great!

now we just need the "official" Android Studio template, but according to Paul that should come soon
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Quote: "I use Tier2 so I need the C++ libs to build an android apk! "

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Hi all,

I have posted an update (finally in the first message of this thread).

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RickV wrote: "I have posted an update (finally in the first message of this thread)."


Ohh, I was heard. Really many thanks for the coming soon list. Now we know what we can look forward to.
Keep up the good work.
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Quote: "thanks for the coming soon list"

I presume that is sarcasm? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
I don't see any coming soon list. Just a list of what has happened in the past, with a small nod to the fact that the documentation is to be updated.
I'd really like to know that AppGameKit is still being worked on and would like to see a proper update to show exactly what is being worked on (other than the documentation).

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Hi,

We have a new maintenance build coming next week. We will be running a new survey to see what the community want / feel is important. Once that process is complete and we have our plans agreed we can share them with you.

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Quote: "I presume that is sarcasm? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
I don't see any coming soon list. Just a list of what has happened in the past, with a small nod to the fact that the documentation is to be updated.
I'd really like to know that AppGameKit is still being worked on and would like to see a proper update to show exactly what is being worked on (other than the documentation).
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RickV, thanks for picking this up again! Seems you guys made some real good intentions for AppGameKit this new year!
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Blog post updated! See the first message.
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Blog post updated! See the first message, we have published our Roadmap for 2017!
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I'm a bit disappointed, but that's because nothing in that roadmap will be useful for me. I must have given exactly the opposite answers to everybody else who did the survey
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Great, I will now be able to make DLLs for AppGameKit Tier1.
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My opinion about the roadmap:

Cool there is one, that's really nice!
3D shadows, 3D particles, YEAY!
DLL commands for Windows: Cool, but Windows only, so Windows AppGameKit will have more power than other platforms. Multi platform is one of the greatest strenghts of AppGameKit imo.
Video adverts, box2D, Export to other platform, Load and save arrays: Cool updates if you use them, nice!
VR: Very nice IMO, it's a brand new world!
AGK Studio: Don't know what to think. Cool I guess, but I hope AppGameKit doesn't lose it's core: Being an easy to learn cross-platform language.

Thanks for the update RickV!
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Quote: "DLL commands for Windows: Cool, but Windows only, so Windows AppGameKit will have more power than other platforms. Multi platform is one of the greatest strenghts of AppGameKit imo."

Being able to add third party commands to AppGameKit with DLLs should not be limited to windows and I do not believe it will.
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I am very happy with the result, as everything I voted for is in the roadmap I think... maybe I'm the average AppGameKit user

OK... I don't comment on 3D Shadows... better they make a really good one
(nonetheless I voted for it I think ...don't remember)
3D Particles: I had the plan to make my own but now I'll just wait...so it's Great for me
DLL's: Great
Video AD's: Great
Box 2D: Sadly a bit to late I think, as I want to release Slice Wise any time soon and It would probably profit from the Box2D extension
(I'll have to do many updates then I think)
Export: I just tinkered with my Hackintosh and couldn't get it working again... so very Great as Slice Wise shall make it into the Apple App store.
(this feature is on the top of the list for me)
Load arrays: Great
VR: I think we can not profit from the heavy duty VR Gear like Oculus and Vive so much, although it is a very nice feature !
(hope it will improve Mobile VR too)
AGK Studio: Thats the only thing I don't need as there is/or I have enough alternatives
(again very handy if it is done well)

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Windows DLLs will be the test case. I'm pretty sure we can extend it to Mac and Linux. However Android and iOS would be much more difficult, if not impossible.
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I'm very disappointed JSON hasn't been included. HTML5 is only half a solution but how many apps do not require the saving of at least some data?
I'm not even convinced the road map is a result of the questionnaire but more probably a pre-determined route regardless.
Still, i can hope
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