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TEH_CODERER
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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 21:39
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Wow that would be so cool!
I can't wait for a 3D version!

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:06 Edited at: 16th Jun 2005 23:10
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Quote: "I can't wait for a 3D version!"


You don't have to! Its not quite finished yet, and there are a few minor bugs resulting in certain limbs spinning - doesn't affect the movement as they spin lengthways, just makes them flicker abit. The 3D version is WORKING! It only took me a couple of hours to port everything over from 2D into 3D and fix a few mistakes. Not releasing a demo yet, as graphically it looks abit naff (lack of textures), and there are a few things I want to fix and improve. The animation itself is incredible and the quality hasn't deteriorated when being moved to 3D. Just attached a screen shot of the 3D engine so you can get an idea of what it looks like. Though you can't see the movement yet, it looks similar to the 2D version but better as it can move in an axtra dimension.

<<<PART OF THIS IMAGE IS SCREWED UP BECAUSE OF PASTING IT HALF OVER ANOTHER IMAGE - CHECK NEXT POST FOR CROPPED VERSION>>>

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Image got messed up as I pasted the screenshot over a worse one and it didn't cover the whole thing for some reason. Cropped the image and reattached to eliminate the mess.

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Peter H
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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:09
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yeah...might want to throw some textures in there...right now all i see are some streaks and a stick guy

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Go robocat .

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:11 Edited at: 16th Jun 2005 23:25
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@Peter - was that the messed up or the cropped version?

Draw a little text picture to show what is happening in the screenshot.

<<<Realised it messed up the alignment when it posted it onto the forum, so I put it in notepad and took a screenie of it. >>>

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:12 Edited at: 16th Jun 2005 23:13
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well..both

it's just hard to get a 3D grasp of the enviroment from that screen that's all...but i can tell it works

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:20
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Heh, the 2d version would make for a great 2d Zombie shoot-em-up.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:41 Edited at: 16th Jun 2005 23:42
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Thanks for the comments and sorry for the mishaps with the screen shot and describing it.

Had a look at my program and I think I've found the problem causing the spinning. Its likely that its to do with a typo in my code. I'll have a hunt through my code later (as I'm taking a break for today to do other things). Once I find it, everything in the demo should work properly with no little slip ups. I'll bung some textures on it, and then put up a demo.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2005 23:51
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Wahoo, 3d stick men...


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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 00:26
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Quote: "You don't have to!"

Wahey!
Quote: "Its not quite finished yet..."

Quote: "Not releasing a demo yet..."

Oh!

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 02:13
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Ah...the joys of searching through 1032 lines of code looking for typos where a # has been forgotten or an x has been placed instead of a z , only to find about 3 silly typos that have made whole sections of code fall apart. At least its fixed now and it all works wonderfully. It doesn't suddenly start spinning and won't start flipping and jumping around all over the place.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 02:31
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Hey, flipping and jumping sounds fun.


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lol, yeah i wish darkbasic would show you a list of all the unique variable names in your code and where they first appear (so you could spot things like "camerBxposition")

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 03:16 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 03:17
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The demo is here...enjoy!

Move the camera around with the up and downkey keys and look around with the mouse. Press space to spawn up to 50 new bodies. They chase their little ball targets.

Known issues:
- limbs look to be slightly apart from each other (will stretch them in next version)
- movement algorithm to be vastly improved - obviously
- no joint restrictions because it looks cooler with daddy long legs; could just specify the values for it if I wanted it
- limbs appear to slice through scenary corners...THEY DON'T! It is just as I rushed the positioning of limb objects and it was more convenient to put it in before the limb collision, seeing as after collision the positions would need recalculating.
- the demo is at freewebs...sorry!

Here is the demo...

[href]http://www.freewebs.com/robocatgames/3D Ragdoll.zip[/href]

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 03:33 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 03:54
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Downloading at a lovely 2.3 KB a sec IM ON 1MB broadband! Stupid freewebs. Anyways will give my feedback once downloaded!

ARGH! Slow! I'm still downloading it NOW! At an even more satisfying 1 KB a second...ARRRRGH!


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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 04:01
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Sorry about using freewebs, I was hoping I would be able to attach it to my post but I didn't expect the size to be so big. Thanks for downloading it though.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 04:03
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42% so far...I don't mind hosting it on my DBSpot space.


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44%! I was going to say the same!

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 04:27
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Yay I downloaded it. Its pretty cool. But more confusing than the 2D one. And please un-invert the mouse. Twas a bugger to control


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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 04:42
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Ah, sorry about the invert. I don't have a DBSpot account, so if one of you wanted to host it on DBSpot, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 05:02 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 05:02
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I'm going to design how the more advanced logic will be implimented. Since I am making this as a system for others to use, it would be useful to know what features you would like to be possible in the final version. This could be stuff such as holding and reloading guns, jumping, wielding hockey sticks, kicking footballs, wielding guns or more general things, such as support for walking on terrains. Anything or any scenario you want to be possible (for example the scenario I wrote in my online survival horror thread - last page of it) would be appreciated as I can tweak the logic design and improve it so that these things can become a possibility.

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Quote: "I don't mind hosting it on my DBSpot space."
I meant I will (If you want me to) Host it on my account. I don't mind.


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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 05:27
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Cool, thanks Saberdude!

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 05:51
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Thought I'd put 3 decent screen shots up.

<SCREEN 1>

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 05:52 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 05:54
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<SCREEN 2>

EDIT: For some reason my Paint is messing up the pictures when I save them having just saved another. I double checked that these were correct before I saved.

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<SCREEN 3>

EDIT: For some reason my Paint is messing up the pictures when I save them having just saved another. I double checked that these were correct before I saved.

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I can mirror it if you have any shortage of space mate..ive got 300meg spare!

4% and counting...

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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 06:51 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 07:21
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Downloading now at the lovely rate of 1.9k/sec over my 120broadband / You know, if you'd had just emailed it to someone with a dbspot account it could be on much better hosting.. Anyhow, if I manage to download it before saberdude and the rest I'll host it



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Posted: 17th Jun 2005 07:27 Edited at: 17th Jun 2005 07:30
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Muhahahaha I beat the rest of ya to it!

http://hawkeye.dbspot.com/downloads/3DRagdoll.zip


Great demo btw Mouse needs hiding and I personaly don't like the inverted mouse scheme, but oh man is it every creepy when the ragdolls climb sideways along the walls


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when you save from MSPaint to JPG it exports it as capitals. Rich hasn't fixed that issue with explorer browsers yet.. all you need to do to correct this is type .jpg and it'll save it with that extension instead. then you can view them in explorer; it's a retarded forum error if you ask me.

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I don't think its a forum error, I think its just how the server works. I remember my website being picky about case, even though other sites aren't.


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Quote: "Muhahahaha I beat the rest of ya to it!

http://hawkeye.dbspot.com/downloads/3DRagdoll.zip"


Thanks for hosting it Hawkeye.

Quote: "Great demo btw Mouse needs hiding and I personaly don't like the inverted mouse scheme, but oh man is it every creepy when the ragdolls climb sideways along the walls"


Thanks! I'll make sure the next demo is more polished with the mouse hidden and an invert option etc. Glad you found it creepy, as thats what I was hoping their movement would look like at the moment. Having them crawling along the side of a wall like that will work wonders for my survival horror game.

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Posted: 18th Jun 2005 07:33 Edited at: 18th Jun 2005 07:37
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awesome


my only problem with it is that they can kind of walk on the walls and it seems like they are defying gravity

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Quote: "my only problem with it is that they can kind of walk on the walls and it seems like they are defying gravity"


That will be fixed with the improvements. I'll be implimenting different grip levels for different surfaces and taking the position of its centre of gravity into account of the grip.

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Dude you truely are a talented person! That has to be the coolest thing ive ever had the fortune to behold! Great, keep it up! Heres a present for your good work, Chicken, FRIED!

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Haha, nice. A guy like that in 3d'd be sooo cool... Snaking along with that oh-so-spiderish manner...

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