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Philip
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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 00:57 Edited at: 25th Apr 2006 00:58
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Why not ask Rich Davey / TGC to disclose this chap's postal and telephone contact details?? TGC must have them on a database somewhere.

Ditto for whatever online payment mechanism you used - Paypal etc.

You can then write him a snail mail letter and if he doesn't respond, sue him if you want to take it that far.

If you paid with credit card, you can get your credit card company to refund you and they will pursue the matter themselves.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 00:59
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Quote: "And no, it's not good enough. I requested a refund over a month ago, and I will not forget it until I receive one. I am the kind of consumer who, if I get screwed by a company, will not choose to do business with them ever again... period. That's not such a profound ideal if you ask me."


Personally, I disagree with that approach (As companys make mistakes like IKEA as you said, it took 4 months for my bed to come from Homebase),
Still in my personal view, if your product arrives late, at least you got it before a refund, therefore I would say its better to have recieved it late than to wait a lot longer to do business with someone else who may not have exactly what you want
However its you, and its your choice and your way of doing things, whether or not I agree with you

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Glad that you have got through to Sam, hopefully this time he will stick to his word other than buying a couple extra days

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 02:29
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Quote: "Glad that you have got through to Sam, hopefully this time he will stick to his word other than buying a couple extra days"

LMFAO

Quote: "Why not ask Rich Davey / TGC to disclose this chap's postal and telephone contact details?? TGC must have them on a database somewhere. "

Read the posts above yours, we already have these details.


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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 03:20
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Quote: "Still in my personal view, if your product arrives late, at least you got it before a refund, therefore I would say its better to have recieved it late than to wait a lot longer to do business with someone else who may not have exactly what you want"


Yes, but I haven't received the product yet, and I paid over 2 months ago. I don't get what you mean, sorry hehe. And trust me, I'm not trying to be hostile. I would still hang out with Kang if I ever visited England again, but business and pleasure are separate entities for me.

Like has been said before, I'm not interested in playing games (no pun intended) with the Quikly brand, so as soon as Kang comes back from his extended vacation I will want a refund so as to avoid something like this in the future. I'm sure he has a way of locking out my code, or whatever.

If not, then I will be hocking it on eBay.


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I'm not sure if this is any help whatsoever, but I noticed that, though most of his pictures are down because his quikly server is down, I can still see pictures from http://www.kangaroo2.com and was in fact able to get into that. Just pointing out, anything can help in situations like these.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 07:39
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ts like ordering a chair from ikea, and it takes 3 months to deliver and all you recieve is a brochure about the chair.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 20:15
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Quote: "ts like ordering a chair from ikea, and it takes 3 months to deliver and all you recieve is a brochure about the chair."

Damn Ikea, not a realible service.

@Jeku what I meant is that if I find bad business with someone, but still get the product its better to complain to their services and still have the product rather than refuse that business and further business (An example would be my sister had trouble with ebuyer, yet I bought my graphics card from there and got a quick delivery) As for keeping business and pleasure apart is a good idea, just hope you choose friend/pleasure over business if they collide

Hope that explains what I meant a bit better;

Quote: "And trust me, I'm not trying to be hostile"

I know, just sounds that you are annoyed with this to me, like everybody else

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 22:09 Edited at: 25th Apr 2006 22:24
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@Musashi - I see what you mean, but out of sheer principle I do not plan on engaging on any further business with the Quikly brand. If that means finding another piece of replacement software, i.e. competition, then so be it.

I have always been like this. Once I dated a girl who was treated rudely (very unjustly too) by the owner of a restaurant here in town, even before I met her. Since she has told me this, I have never given them my business, and have told others to do the same. Sometimes that's the only power we as consumers have, as there is no law against restaurant business owners being rude.


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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 22:35 Edited at: 25th Apr 2006 22:43
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This is just lame now. Family members being ill is a sad situation, but that's absolutly no excuse not to make a 40 second forum post. He's obviously stalling, atleast that's clear now.

It's been 2 days since he has promised to email and still nothing. If I was in his situation, I would be running like a lunatic towards the nearest PC to update all the people who have sent me their money.

He doesn't seem to be trying really. You don't have to be a detective to see that.

edit: The reason I was so nice and understanding at first was because I was afraid Sam might have got into an accident or was in a comma. He is obviously alive & kicking, healthy, and aware of the fact that we been waiting for months.


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How can you compare a chair bought from Ikea, for which a reasonable substitute could be found elsewhere to a software product developed for a speciifc purpose by an individual? I've looked at engines and editors for 5 years now, and Quikly was the one I finally bought. Yeah, it did seem too good to be true, but there was a demo and it seemed possible that it could (eventually if not initially) live up to his claims. I want to know, if you were to get your $40 back, what engine/editor would you buy that has the features Quikly claimed? The closest thing to what I understand Sam was working on would be FPSC with more game/cam types supported. Aside from that there isn't anything really and that's probably why he managed to get so many of us to pay him money on his word.
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My, My, Tuesday come and went, did I tell you my goldfish was sick, it broke it's leg, may stop me posting for a while, but I got help with my web site, should be up by 2009, www.thequiklyripoff.com.


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Quote: "Firefox can't find the server at www.thequiklyripoff.com."



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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 04:43
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Quote: "I want to know, if you were to get your $40 back, what engine/editor would you buy that has the features Quikly claimed? "


That doesn't matter-- I am a professional SE (programmer) who works for the largest videogame company in the world. I don't *need* Quikly, by any stretch of the imagination. I just hoped it would save me some time, much like DBP and PB has. Just to have my money back in my account, collecting interest for me is what I want. Why should he have my money now.

I just realized that even though I paid through Paypal, Paypal took the money from my Visa. Tomorrow I'm calling my credit card company immediately to remove the transaction due to fraud. This can honestly be called nothing short of, well, fraud.

Sam told Cobra that he'd email us all today. Well, today has come and gone, and no word. That was predictable, really.


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yeah on ebay a death in the family or serious illness is the number one way to spot a scam or a non-paying bidder....

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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 05:57 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 06:53
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Quote: "yeah on ebay a death in the family or serious illness is the number one way to spot a scam or a non-paying bidder...."

I'll say it again, what has this got to do with you, you did not loose money on this deal, why then do you feel the need to butt in, and annoy everyone.
And I or Jeku did not buy it from ebay, and I guess nor did anyone else, so you got that bit of sarcasm wrong, of course you will come back with some idiotic statement like, i didn't say you bought it on ebay, you kids are all the same.

I was wondering, if I should release the EA version of Quikly, to the general public? I mean it is dead software, right?


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Quote: "I was wondering, if I should release the EA version of Quikly, to the general public? I mean it is dead software, right?"


That doesn't sound like a smart thing to do.

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There's no point, as we don't have the EA version of Quikly

Odds are Sam would lock out your code if, in the future, he ever flips on the server.


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Does it work?


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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 10:38
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Quote: "Does it work? "


You're joking, right? Obviously we don't have the software yet, or there wouldn't be a problem. Why can't people just read the posts before putting their nose in?


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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 12:42 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 12:50
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Quote: "You're joking, right? Obviously we don't have the software yet, or there wouldn't be a problem. Why can't people just read the posts before putting their nose in?"

Wow, chill out. I thought that perhaps there had been a working demo put out to demonstrate the product that he wanted to release.

Quote: "I was wondering, if I should release the EA version of Quikly, to the general public? I mean it is dead software, right?"

I'm curious about exactly what Aoneweb is trying to release to the public before I offer my opinion about doing so. I thought that would be prudent before I try putting my nose in. His statement was unclear, as it did not correspond with my knowledge of the state of the software.

Is offering a well thought out opinion about his question out of line? Is gathering more information about exactly what he's asking before doing so out of line?

Rather, it seems like a cheap shot taken at me, Jeku. Whatever.



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(at the risk of being flamed)
I understand people are annoyed but you did recieve the product you were given access to the EA downloads, wether you downloaded them or not you still had the chance to get them, the boxed product was a way out of the EA stages, you still received what you payed for, the EA versions...
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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 13:59 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 14:00
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Quote: "I'll say it again, what has this got to do with you, you did not loose money on this deal, why then do you feel the need to butt in, and annoy everyone.
And I or Jeku did not buy it from ebay, and I guess nor did anyone else, so you got that bit of sarcasm wrong, of course you will come back with some idiotic statement like, i didn't say you bought it on ebay, you kids are all the same."

wow, sorry im just sayin ive been scammed before and it doesnt warrant you the right to be an @$$hole to the other forum members bout it

but i'll quit postin here then

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I don't think anyone should not be able to have their own say, you shouldn't be lashing out at the people who didn't cause your greif...
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TDP Enterprises, my bad, sorry.
I have the last version that was available, if you had the pass code to the web site, it is incompleate, but usable.


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yep, you were given what you payed for, the EA version, which was considered to be unfinished, thats why i believe that watchdog, paypal and all those involved will not investigate...
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I disagree. They didn't pay for the EA version, they paid for the version that came in the mail, which didn't work. They were scammed, simple as that. It was no fault of anyone who bought it.


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Yup i paid for the full Quikly Game Studio Pro! This was after the supposed 14th of Feb release too.. Shocking... I really dislike being lied to and played with.

The only two explinations that i can now assume is that Kang is really a decent person and just got way behind and is trying desperately to get Quikly finished.

On the other hand, the far more likely scenario is that we've been done, the product is not finished and will never be released.

However being too Negative does not float my boat so i just hope Kang releases quikly as an open source project at least!!! So us lot can finish his work, If this was the case I would still be pi$$ed but it would be better than having nowt!!

Come on Kang.. Come through dude!!!
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Quote: "I understand people are annoyed but you did recieve the product you were given access to the EA downloads, wether you downloaded them or not you still had the chance to get them, the boxed product was a way out of the EA stages, you still received what you payed for, the EA versions..."


What are you talking about? There was no version that we downloaded--- as far as I remember it was just a trial version that was buggy and incomplete, and anyone had access to it that simply emailed Kang.

We paid for the EA version that was commercial, and working. We received an installer in the mail, that does not connect to any server. Therefore, we didn't get what we paid for.

Quote: "Is offering a well thought out opinion about his question out of line? Is gathering more information about exactly what he's asking before doing so out of line?

Rather, it seems like a cheap shot taken at me, Jeku. Whatever."


I apologize if I offended you, but I don't see any well thought out opinion from you, but simply "does it work" or something like that.

Anyways, I'd just like to kindly request that anyone who isn't personally involved to stop adding their ill-informed 2 cents. The same kinds of questions are being asked again and again


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Well, I'm gonna put my two cents in.

I understand that feeling ripped off boils peoples blood, but also this is a public forum and this thread is creating a real negative image for both yourself and TGC, as they had this product in their newsletter.

You, being a Moderator, should understand this and should stop this public rant. It should be taken elsewhere(somewhere it might do some good), as this thread won't pay you your money back.

Please do the right thing, be mature, and lock this thread. The man can start a new thread if he ever logs back on, to explain his reasons.


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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 21:39 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 21:40
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Quote: "Please do the right thing, be mature, and lock this thread. The man can start a new thread if he ever logs back on, to explain his reasons."


Unfortunately this thread is all us poor mugs that paid for the product have, so i'd rather it stayed unlocked just in case of a minor miracle!!! Plus this is where people like cobra_one have been posting about contact with Kang.

Keep it open.. for now atleast, I'm not sure if you ordered Quikly but i assume you didn't as if you did you would most probably be clinging onto any hope of an answer like myself.

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@Cyrptoman - If you have a problem with my posts, then you can email the proper people (Rich, etc.). I seriously don't think that this should be negatively reflective on TGC, as they are not publishing this product. There are tons of products that are mentioned in the newsletter, and it's not like TGC is responsible for them.

Also, this is the only place that we can vent, as Kang has shut down his forums.

Quote: "Please do the right thing, be mature, and lock this thread."


There are two reasons why I would lock a thread. If the original author requests it, or if it is in any way breaking the forums rules. Neither of these apply here.

I have emailed Kang again last night, and I hope to see what he has to say.


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Where is this man .



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Man, this has really pissed me off now.

Can anyone give me his phone number?
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For info re: the author of quikly.com, please go here:http://www.whois.net/whois.cgi2?d=www.quikly.com


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Grrr...He's done it again! I'm getting fed up with this crap now! Cobra said that Sam said his site would be up again in a couple of days. Its been a couple of days already, like someone said before he is just buying his time. I'm just giving up hope of ever being able to get the freaking software...

This is soooooooo frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Update
One of the members over at Aone, said he is going to pay Sam a visit, to try and find out what's up.
I have a feeling, he will not have much luck, but at leased he tried.


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Well, I called my credit card company to have them reverse the charges, and they won't because I paid through Paypal, and they told me to deal with them instead.

I am extremely agitated over this, and I will do my best to stop people from ordering this product, including creating a special page on my Automaton Games website (which gets a tremendous amount of unique traffic) warning people not to purchase.

This will end up costing Kang more money in the long run, so I hope he made enough from us fools for purchasing his vapourware.

EDIT:

I have discovered that you can STILL file a claim through Paypal, even after the 45-day limit. The claim WILL go on his permanent record, so I urge EACH and every one of you to do this. Hopefully Paypal will shut his account down.


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he didn't turn up, well I give up saying anything in his defense completely now, he looks similar to a guy I know who is a real <censored> I did not take prejudice cos he resembled him, but sorry Sam, looks like I trust you as much as I trust the other guy.

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I filed with paypal, and got a notice saying my complaint was closed.


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Complain again, and again and again, they will have to give in eventually. If they have customer service via phone, shout at them through that. Especially if EVERYONE who bought the thing complained, but it doesn't look like that many have bothered.
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I will be keeping an eye out for him on the net, he may try to sell this again under a differant name, or rip more people off.
It is ridicules to believe that Sam does not read these posts, or his Brother in law, how defended him on the Quikly forum, every time he had any negative posts, I believe they set this thing up together, to con people.
I think he got as far as he could with Quikly, and did not have the skill to finish it, so they came up with a plan to steel peoples money, he has left honest people skeptical about doing the same thing again and would be developers, who may have a genuine product to sell, without some customers.
Lets face it, would you part with that amount of money to a bedroom developer again, without wondering if you were going to be ripped off.
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The progression of this thread is a very interesting read... until the fourth page, and then it's just more of the same. If this is a con as it looks to be, it's an amazingly good one. I mean, everything looks fine, and then suddenly he dissapears. It's really disapointing... and I don't blame those who bought it for being really pissed off.

I wonder what would happen if he suddenly just started posting here again...
Do you think if he just released the product and explained himself well people would apolologise for calling him a con and get over it, or do you think he'd be screamed at by everyone no matter what?

Not trying to defend him, just thinking out loud (soft of).

Edit: @Aoneweb, you posted that there was a thread on your forum about this, but I searched for it and couldn't find anything.

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I think most people would be happy to receive a refund or the product, but I have lost confidence in the product and the author, so he would find it hard to get any sales, I would think most would be worried to part with their money.
He has lost a lot by not responding to our concerns, and he has committed a crime, anyway you look at it, he excepted money for a product he did not supply, that is a crime.

Most people and me, posted here: http://aoneweb.com/network/index.php?topic=33.0


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Thanks, I registered.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 09:06 Edited at: 5th May 2006 06:51
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Well I must say this was an interesting read. Although I did not purchase Quickly 3d Studio Pro, but came close.


Sorry Cobra_One just to much thinking. As you can see I removed what I had said.
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Cobra_One
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Posted: 3rd May 2006 23:01
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Quote: " JulesD wrote:-
I just found it strange that "Cobra_One" posted a message on March 29, 2006(page3) and only joined that day. Through out his post he tries to convince people he is calling "Kangaroo2 BETA2" perhaps to keep others from calling."


I joined this forum on 29th March having been on the Quickly forums as Cobra_one and having paid for this software like everyone else and not received it.
In that first post I said
Quote: "I sent an email to Sam on 21/03 asking him to reactivate the server so we can install the software but have not had a reply.I have his home address but unfortunately he is ex-directory. If I haven't heard from him by the weekend then I will snail mail him. Whether I will get a reply or not is anybodies guess. "


On 31st March John Y posted
Quote: "http://www.whois.org/whois.cgi2?d=quikly.com

Some interesting information
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From that link I got Sams telephone number and after various attempts, got hold of him on 2nd April and posted
Quote: "I have spoken to Sam on the phone and he told me his Mum is seriously ill and he is having to spend alot of time looking after her which has delayed the finishing of the software. He should be able to update us with news in the next week or two and asks us to be patient a little longer and said the software is not dead. I informed him that people are getting anxious and he said he would try and post to the Forums himself soon. "

Which is what he told me. Although I was dubious about this I thought I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

Having heard nothing from Sam for 2 weeks I then kept trying to ring him again and kept getting his answer machine. Each call costing me money and eating into the £20 he owes me.
On 20th April I posted
Quote: "If anyone else wants his phone number to ring him then email me and I will let you have it. I have just tried him again, still no answer."
Only 1 person asked for it and that was Lynx on 27th April so I sent him the phone number.

On 23rd April I posted
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I managed to get hold of Sam tonight and he informed me that he, his mother and uncle have all been ill! He also said we will all be getting an email either tomorrow or tuesday and that he has got help with the new website and it should be up and running in a day or two. ."

Again I gave him the benefit of the doubt because he assured me the website would be up.

I again contacted Sam today I finaly managed to get some truth out of him but now having seen this post from JulesD I am tempted not to post here anymore and say if you want to know whats going on ring Sam yourself!!!

Chris
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Catking
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Posted: 4th May 2006 00:45
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@cobra_one, thanks for telephoning Sam really appreciate you keeping us informed, I believe Sam could not figure out how to stop people that had not paid forit, downloading it from his KD2 site.
and just gave up leaving us with nothing.
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Lynx
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Posted: 4th May 2006 01:33
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Quote: "Only 1 person asked for it and that was Lynx on 27th April so I sent him the phone number."

He did, and I have the number. I just haven't called him yet because first, if I would try calling him at around 4 PM my time, it would be at least 3 AM at his house. Plus it would cost me a LOT of money. So I am trying to do this conservatively, but I most likely will get ahold of him good an proper, and give him a good and proper bitching .

If you have any doubt, just ask a moderator to scan IPs of the accounts and see if they are the same person... which they aren't..

Actually, cobra_one, could you contact me and tell me whats going on so I don't have to shell out money for the long distance call?
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Zone Chicken
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Posted: 4th May 2006 02:01
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Quote: " I am tempted not to post here anymore and say if you want to know whats going on ring Sam yourself!!!"


Aw, come on Cobra_One i have been following this thread for over a month now, even though i haven't posted. Since it simply wasn't right for me to post a opinion either way here because i did not purchase the software.

But i am very curious to see what reasons Sam has for why he has put all his trusting and loyal EA buyers out in the cold in such a manner as he has chosen to do, without so much as a single post from himself regarding the issue.

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Bizar Guy
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please cobra, ignore people like JulesD who are a bit paranoid... please post here. And he did say he apologised if he was wrong. PLEASE tell us...

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