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FPSC Classic Models and Media / CorePak Vol. 2 - - Modern US Soldier Preview

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Jon Fletcher
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Hi guys,

i spent yesterday making the model of a basic US Soldier for Vol. 2, and i just finished texturing and rigging, which took pretty much all of today.

i think it looks pretty nice, and here is a small preview for those thinking about buying vol. 2:



i havnt forgotten about the other requests (e.g. NPC's and such) which i will be creating next

well i hope you like, i sure do, it was hard to texture the center body armour and find good reference, but it fits

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Nice jon! looks cool love your textures

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thanks liz, i hope to get better at my texturing soon, and go into skin and cloth painting in photoshop, some of my models get ruined when the texture does not suffice

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Nice looking soldier.Can't wait for your next pack.The first one is excellent!

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thanks, i just cant wait for the summer, i can get alot done then, after my exams

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but your textures are awsome! i love them there like the best!!! 4 my characters i want silent hill 1 kind of graphics the pixel type i think its called those are cool!

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pixel type textures? i think thats just because of the 'fuzziness' of the Playstation console.

thanks, but my texturing is not the best, i have seen brilliant, and i compare little to them, i hope to learn more very soon, though the textures i do now, still look nice on my models

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yhea your textures and models are good to create your game mine not realy i dont know a good program for that so the only one i use is ms paint cause its free and you already have it

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Great job , though with a better look, dont get me wrong it could be the camera position/angle only, but he looks a little short, except that feeling, i think the model is good, and textures are great.


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See jon! even dodic says the textures are good do grt your self down your good at this be pround your gifted


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He looks a little stubby jon, as if he fell and his legs went up into his turso. But he looks good besides from that.

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Quote: "He looks a little stubby jon, as if he fell and his legs went up into his turso. But he looks good besides from that"


like dodic asked, its probably just the camera angle anatomy looks fine on orthographic views...

lol, liz i never said i thought it was bad, i just want to be better, i think i can texture pretty well, and this model raised the feeling, theres just some textures ive seen (including TGC ones) on the internet with some cool effects such as the rippling of fabric and face painting, which i have yet to advance in

by the way, whilst waiting for replies from the start of the topic, i created this... (attached)



thats what happens when i get bored and have 3DS Max open...

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Iam wondering how your going to do the uv maps on that .

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me 2 wow jon! your so great at modeling!!! i wish i could maodel as good as you and higgins

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yeh, i had another robot a while back, was hell to unwrap the UV's

but this ones better, so i might take a shot, next time i get bored. who knows what i might create next time im bored....

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bump,

just for the sake of more people seeing it, then it can die

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Liz you could nevere model if that sig... anyways.
Very nice John! I agree with higgins tho, it is a bit squashed.
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That's a great looking Mech, Jon. Good work; although I agree that that thing will be UV Hell

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thanks guys, what do you think of the soldier model Keith? i wanted your opinion seeing as ive heard you were in Iraq

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Looks good, although the camo pattern looks to be British. I'll post a pic of myself in-country in a bit.

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cool, thanks

i thought that was american camo, the orange 'flicks' on it seemed to only come under american camo styles on the surplus website, i'll wait and see though

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I haven't worn it since '03; so maybe my eyes are messing with me I'll get that picture out in a bit.


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Nice looking model! And robot too, it looks like you used radiosity, it looks like there is lots of light bouncing around in that render.

Impressive mech, especially considering that you made it in under 2.5 hours, wow! Did you have any reference pis to work from? Actually, for something like that it should be relatively easy to set up a UV map, since it has very defined planes. But lots of polys to work with too it looks like.

The soldier looks nice and low poly, maybe too low poly, altough that's just personal preference. If you want to add clothing folds in photoshop then dodge and burn are good for that.

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thanks bond, i actually used lighttracer, not radiosity

i had no design reference, only what i could see in my head, lol.

the soldier is quite low poly yes, i put a tiny tiny bit more detail into the face than my scientist, basic eyes, nose and mouth shape...and yes ive used dodge and burn tools before and all the time now, they are a LIFESAVER

p.s) bond, do you paint the faces for your models, and if so, in photoshop?

p.p.s) What tool can i use to make normal maps? they dont look like something that is done by hand

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Oh I've never messed around with light tracer (or any of the render settings for that matter), I'll have to try it sometime.

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you should, they are quite good

for instance, the lighting and soft shadows on the mech are just from a skylight (default settings) and lighttracer (default settings)

easy as pie

how do you make normal maps, didnt nVidia make a plugin for photoshop of something?

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I believe Max can generate Normal Maps (depending on your version).

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Well, a "proper" normal map should be generated from a high poly model. You can make one from nvidia's photoshop plugin that is generated from a texture, and that is sufficient for bump effects. But to take full advantage of a normal map it should really come from a high-poly model. Yes max can make them, but I've never done it before. The guy at poopinmymouth.com has a tutorial on how he makes them though.

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hmmm, ok, i'll look at both methods if i can, they seem both great ways

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Nvidia has a tool called Melody, which generates normal maps for low poly models from high poly models.

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OK, here's me on top of a hotel in Al Kut.



...And inside the hotel, having a bit to eat (I'm the happy guy on the left).



It looks a bit hard to get a good look at the patterns (probably didn't help that I was filthy ).

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HEh,KeithC .

Jon, I love your models!

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Mech looks excellent.

But I agree with higgins. Legs of US soldier does look little too short. Texture is awesome.

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If you look at where the hands are; they are touching the front pocket area. Put your own hands at your side and see; it's proportional with a shorter soldier (there are actually soldiers of different size ).

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ah, i know what you must mean by the camo pattern now

i orginally had the texture of pretty much the exact pattern from the pictures you uploaded, then i got another desert camo texture and set it as an overlay for some better effects, so i guess its a mix of both

i have managed to get the US Soldier ingame!

check it out:





the only thing thats wrong is i cant see the gun that the guy has been given, and i kept the firespot visible in MAX....hmmm, deceiving

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lol, how much cans do you guys drink?

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Water's great and all, but when we got the chance to grab something with flavor in it...well, we grabbed more than one That was the first chance we got to eat some "local" food; it was a good break from the "food" we were given.

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they must be really cheap over there, spose about 10 cents? i know i would do the same thing...just buy hundreds of Dr. Pepper, lol

what do you think of the screenshots? does the model suit the game/engine?

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The model looks good (I'm not sure that I would have modeled each finger); it fits the scene nicely.

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cool, thanks, i like doing each finger, adds more realism, and its one of the things you always notice in games up close

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Looks Cool Jon. I know I'm going to buy this pack!

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Where did you get those floor, wall, and ceiling textures, they look great!

Oh and the solder looks great too. I hide the firespot before exporting...so I'm not sure why you're weapon isn't showing up. You have it parented (linked) to the character model, right?

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Are you talking about me or the CG soldier, Bond?


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Jon's model, but you're an attractive man also.

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^ lol

im using some free textures from a website and putting them together, originally made for commercial projects such as 24: countdown and the suffering, basically just for testing purposes, i dont want to spend ages making a texture for one room, quite yet

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Thankyou


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Quote: "You have it parented (linked) to the character model, right?"


errr... if it does that when loading the biped, i guess yes

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Oh yeah you're right, it should load in already linked by default. As long as you have the "load max objects" box checked. So you shouldn't have to do anything. Hmmm, not sure why you're weapon isn't showing up...

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i'll have to check that, i found out the reason my animations werent in order before, i had the 'left-hand co-ordinate' box unchecked, this was the first of my models that worked with perfect animation

i think i'll re-save the zombies and see how they work out

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Yes the left-handed checkbox has a bad habit of unchecking itself for no apparent reason, I always double check before exporting.

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