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Work in Progress / FREE Windows GUI DLL for DarkBASIC Pro

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Syncaidius
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I hate to bump old topics but, are you still working on this?

Reason im asking is because since I switched to vista (and now Windows 7) BlueGUI has become really buggy. All of what you've done with this plugin so far works fine on vista/windows 7 by the way.

I can't complete WORLD V2 without a windows GUI. I've thought about buying PurePlugin and coding a GUI plugin in PureBasic but, you already have half of the stuff I need right here.


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Hullo all.

DOCUMENTATION: Coming...
WORK IN PROGRESS: Yes

Listen, I haven't had much time to program THIS plugin lately, but I'll make time for it today. With all the knowledge I have learned from writing this plugin (A treasure to me, personally) I wouldn't let it die without first becoming completed. I am going to rewrite it though - unfortunately I lost the source code, and binaries to it. I will start today, as SOON as I return to my computer.

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Any special features you may like to request? I like your WORLD project, so I wish to be of help to you in terms of this plugin. Send me an email, or contact me via MSN if you wish to have a better discussion in terms of your project and my GUI.

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Posted: 18th Jan 2009 02:56 Edited at: 18th Jan 2009 02:57
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Quote: "Any special features you may like to request? I like your WORLD project, so I wish to be of help to you in terms of this plugin. Send me an email, or contact me via MSN if you wish to have a better discussion in terms of your project and my GUI."


To be honest, all I really need is everything you had listed in the first post, a list view gadget, open/save dialogs and a folder selection dialog.

Nice, work on what you've done so far on this by the way.


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I'm writing on behalf of Aaron as he has no Internet and we're communicating over the phone. He has a 100% working version ready with some support for OpenGL and all he has to do now is add support for some controls and dialogs.

Gadgets support reference counting - UICaptureGadget UIReleaseGadget
Movable gadgets - example: .NET Frame Editor (NOTE: This is just an example to explain the meaning of movable gadgets)
Support for menus in windows and popup menus
Support for event processing

He'll explain more later and has a demo ready.

He hasn't written an .ini file nor any documentation yet, but the source file in the example is well explained.

"I've hijacked the DBP window and made it my bitch." -Aaron

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Quote: "
"I've hijacked the DBP window and made it my bitch." -Aaron"



I'm willing to see this complete.

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Listen, I haven't had much time to program THIS plugin lately, but I'll make time for it today. With all the knowledge I have learned from writing this plugin (A treasure to me, personally) I wouldn't let it die without first becoming completed. I am going to rewrite it though - unfortunately I lost the source code, and binaries to it. I will start today, as SOON as I return to my computer."


one year and a half of development, ho well...
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Posted: 21st Jan 2009 02:02
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Okay, here's a demo.

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Nice work Aaron, really top notch stuff right there!

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Hi,
good work .

1) Are you making twilight gui compatible with blue gui?.

2) Can you put a DBRPO window inside another window with TW?

3) Do you plan to have another features different from the first post?

4) DO you have an end date?
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Can you make a DarkGDK version?


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Thats looking really sweet Aaron. Nice work so far.


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Quote: "1) Are you making twilight gui compatible with blue gui?.

2) Can you put a DBRPO window inside another window with TW?

3) Do you plan to have another features different from the first post?

4) DO you have an end date?"

1) No, sorry. I dislike BlueGUI.
2) Yes. I'll make a demonstration of this later.
3) I plan on having quite a few features, so yes.
4) When is software ever 100% complete? Next release date is maybe within a week from now, if all goes according to plan.

Quote: "Can you make a DarkGDK version?"

I managed to download DarkGDK, but not MSVC++ 2008. DarkGDK doesn't seem to want to work with MSVC++ 6.0... I actually wanted to work on this with DarkGDK (Makes debugging a whole hell of a lot easier), unfortunately I was unable to do that. I can certainly make a DarkGDK version as soon as I'm able to get DarkGDK working though.

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Thanks.

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Quote: "I can certainly make a DarkGDK version as soon as I'm able to get DarkGDK working though. "

Thanks look forward to it


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hate to be picky but would you consider making a GUI editor? i find it tedious hard coding a gui. Java NetBeans is a perfect example of this. Rainbow GUI editor or whatever it is called is not very reliable or stable. im running vista and using BlueGUI and right now BlueGUI seems like it might give me a hard time with vista....i heard your plugin works fine on vista so im all for it.


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I do plan on a GUI editor. Someone (a while back) said they would make one, but I didn't here anything of this again. I've already made support to allow dragging of gadgets with the mouse (which is a property all GUI editors share). I need someone with Windows Vista, or Windows 7 to run the example posted above, and click inside the window -- dragging the window around. I need to know if there are any problems with this, and if so, what they are specifically. (I've enabled the gadget dragging feature in the examples above).

NOTE: I made some progress on documentation, implemented some controls, and ran into one hell of a memory error. This is the exact reason I want to get DarkGDK working, but haven't been able to do so. If I could get DarkGDK working, then I could find out EXACTLY where the memory error is occuring, and see the state of all variables in my program because I would be able to actually debug my GUI. Why TGC decided "it depends on the IDE" is beyond me... But they did decide it, and I'm immensely p***ed at them for it. Making it compatible with pretty much any IDE would be the EASIEST part of development - even easier than writing that "dbAbs" function. I just don't see the point in restricting to a specific IDE. (sigh) Sorry for that offtopic rant. I'm trying to get it working.

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i played with it on vista and seems to work just fine. i do have vista 64 bit and is up to date (at least from what i know it is). both windows click and drag fine from within the window. one thing i noticed is that if you scale the main window, it scales the text... not sure if you intended this or not but it would be cool/nice if the text size remained the same after changing the size of the window.


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Quote: "it scales the text... not sure if you intended this or not but it would be cool/nice if the text size remained the same after changing the size of the window."

That's DBP, not me. Maybe I can add a feature to resize the screen (dbSetDisplayMode from the DBPPluginSDK I made) each time the window is resized. Would make it look nicer.

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Any news on this plugin?


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Debugging is difficult. :/

Quite simply, I've been trying to figure out a seemingly simple problem. The plugin crashes when you exit the program IF a window has a control in it (such as a button). It makes no sense! I really need to see where it's crashing at, or else I won't be able to do anything useful. I think I'll have to copy over the plugin classes to a simple Win32 program just so I can debug it. :/

If anyone wishes to contribute to the plugin, btw, email me at n.o.c.a.n.n.e.d.m.e.a.t.-at-.g.m.a.i.l.-dot-.c.o.m <remove '.' symbols, replace '-dot-' with '.', and '-at-' with '@'>

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I think that was to stop bots collecting his email address.
It's on his email button anyway.


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That's correct DBKing... It was also to annoy people too though <jk>

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You can still debug DBPro plugins as easily as normal projects, just attach the debugger to the DBPro exe, and it automatically finds that there is an instance of your dll loaded...

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it won't download, says it can't be found

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Is there a dbc version of this dll or can it be used with dbc????

i just learned that plugins were just dlls so i'v been exploring the forums and looking at "plugins" i got a couple to work but i'm not sure about this one :/ and it looks veryy helpful
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Any news/progress on the new version of this?


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Yes. The directory browser is working. I even found a way to get it to start with a directory you select.

I'm currently a *tiny* bit busy trying to get a commercial product to work. I just fixed a very stupid bug (I mean stupid because it's due to the stupid way MS handles their APIs -- It was a simple 'ReadFile' error). Anyways, it's nearing completion.. All I have to do is implement compression, encryption, and the actual packing and it'll be done. I'll be able to focus better on TwilightGUI then.

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Looks great. Most people have to depend on Visual Basic to make GUI applications and this will provide an alternative. I have to in the near future make a custom world editor for a game I am making and be editing data associated with locations. A GUI interface is something this would need.
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Aaron Miller, can you release an updated version with a working way to get what list box item is selected? And can you add a SetListBoxSelection command?

I really hope you can update your plugin soon!

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Figured out how to use it in dbc lol

Whats Twilight GUI?

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Quote: "What's Twilight GUI"

This.

Quote: "Figured out how to use it in dbc"

That's almost insulting (though you didn't mean in that way, I'm sure). Yes, btw. It's easy.

@Jimpo
All of the features you requested work already...

@Petey MS
Thank you.

@Everyone
This particular project is dead. I'll have more information about my GUI later for you guys. The GUI project in general isn't dead, just this particular project. It'll still be free.

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Quote: "Quote: "Figured out how to use it in dbc"
That's almost insulting (though you didn't mean in that way, I'm sure). Yes, btw. It's easy."


why? lol

and the reason i couldn't was cuz i didn't know all the commands lol

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Quote: "All of the features you requested work already..."

Yeah, but can you upload the latest version of the dll? The most recent download in this thread doesn't have a SetListBoxSelection command and the commands twGetListBoxSelectedItem and twGetListBoxItemSelected don't return what they should.

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Quote: "This particular project is dead. I'll have more information about my GUI later for you guys. The GUI project in general isn't dead, just this particular project. It'll still be free."


Hi Aaron.
Are you going to release the source code?, or are you planing to incorporate this into a bigger project to sell?
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@Caleb1994
It's only "almost insulting" because its just creating a DLL. Making a DLL isn't hard at all...

@Jimpo
I can't for the reason below.

@Alfa X
Nope. No.

@Everyone
I'm making a FREE project still. I'm changing the name basically, and I'm making it faster. This project is dead, if you have questions about the new project, ask in this thread, but I'm not going to reveal too much. Beta tester positions are open if anyone is interested.

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Does anyone have the lastest version? All the links are broken.
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How do i return the selected menu item?

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Aaron, I was hoping you could tell me how you get the messages sent by the toolbar. I currently making my own dll(for practice) and I have all the functions for making the menu, sub menus, and applying them, but I'm not sure how to check if their clicked?


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they send a wm_command message. the loword of the lparam is the menu/item that was selected.

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Quote: "I'm making a FREE project still. I'm changing the name basically, and I'm making it faster. This project is dead, if you have questions about the new project, ask in this thread, but I'm not going to reveal too much. Beta tester positions are open if anyone is interested.
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Uh-Oh

Aaron, are you rewriting this project, or is it a truly new project, or is it some weird combination of the two?

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I'm making a new GUI DLL that's designed completely different.

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I see what you mean now. i have been doing c++ for a little while and i have realized how easy it is. haha

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Any progress on the new DLL?
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bump

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Financially speaking, it is not practical for me to continue development on this project with no form of pay. I have several debts I am currently taking care of, and am working on several commercial projects for some companies. Getting support for a Windows GUI is not a very difficult thing at all, and I apologize for an excessive lack in development on this. I do not currently have DBPro installed and so cannot test the project.

If there is anyone out there who uses Google Talk (free) or Pidgin with a Google Talk (GMAIL) account (also free) then I can teach them how to program with Windows applications in my own time, and show them how to develop such a GUI. If no one is capable of this, then the GUI plugin will be further delayed until development for it becomes practical again (Either through pay, or through a lack of need for pay.)

If there are enough supporters, I can set up a way for donations to take place via PayPal so that development on this product may continue. While I do favor open source and free software to commercial software (usually), it is impractical and demanding to develop and maintain such software actively. I will not make this a project which you have to pay for. I do not believe that spending however much money you have spent for software that doesn't work in any way that can be considered efficient or (by a certain degree) useful, that you should have to pay for a feature set that is not included that should be.

I hope that all of you manage to develop the projects you have always wanted to develop to a full degree of features and efficiency. Especially with all the tools you need to do so. I apologize for implying that you require a free GUI plugin for an inefficient language to do so. I hope that you can continue with your software as you had planned, and maybe even with better planning.

Cheers,
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Okay, i can't pay sorry, I'm to young, however i am happy to do what i can - Test stuff, and I'm happy to host you a site, for free.

with no limitations (unless it gets ZOMG LARGE) and if you still own the domain, you can point it there no problem and I'll host it.

There's not exactly much else i can do, but feel free to ask if there is. if you want to take me up on this - it'd be my pleasure if you did, my MSN is:

alec[dot]teal(at)googlemail<dot>com

I do hope this re inspires you, please read and get back to me

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I only have one issue that's stopped me from writing a DLL... interfacing with the window. I can write ones that return variables, that's easy, but how do I go about getting a DLL to put a text edit box into a DBP window?

All these plugins interface directly with the objects in DBPro and I have no idea how to do that either. It'd be nice to write a DLL that handles my own object movement commands, but I've never figured out the documentation for that.

Those are two semi unrelated things, but both have had me stumped for a while. I have purebasic, and I know a lot of plugins are done in that language, and I have written DLL's, just nothing like a GUI or internal function manipulator like Robert Knight's or the PureGDK thing

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Thanks anyways though.

@feiting shadow
I'm not sure of the significance of your post.

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@Aron, want me to design you a site, at least, i need to encourage you to do something. and i can do websites

also please update the package the first download link is a site attack and full of horrid links winch are evil.

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