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FPSC Classic Product Chat / New FPSC Feature - Scriptable Post Shaders

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bond1
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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 18:42 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 18:49
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I've added a new feature to FPSC creator, SETPOSTEFFECT=X , that allows you to change post processing shaders during your game, along with a collection of stunning new world-class postprocess shaders.

You can grab this new feature now if you're making your own builds from the Google source page: http://code.google.com/p/fpscreatorengine/

Check out the new feature in HD here: http://youtu.be/7qchZ1s_p0E



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Whoa! that looks soo cool

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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 18:52 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 18:54
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Thanks, I've been working on these effects for weeks, I think they are truly world class - and some I've never seen duplicated in ANY game before. There are many more than shown in the video, so be sure to try them all.

And you can add your own too! If you have my versatile filmgrain shader, you can make as many variations as you want and use them ALL in your games!

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This looks absolutely amazing! I can envisage a lot of new things I can do in my game with this new feature

Thank you bond1 and everyone working on updating FPSC.
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Nice work Bond....I can already see some applications for these.

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Man, I can't wait for the next build. This opens up another world in FPSC with many possibilities.

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A.M.A.Z.I.N.G!

Seriously this is great work!

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HOLY MOTHER OF....

This is stunning!


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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 19:47 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 19:55
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I'm currently not able to compile or run the new version, could you show the SSAA in action?

nice work as always bond

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Hello bond1,


Actually pretty cool these new shader effects. Congratulations.

By the way how do can we get these files?

Another question: These new shader effects it will be sold or it will be for free?

Cheers.

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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 20:19 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 20:36
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Quote: "could you show the SSAA in action"


I've actually removed that one as a standalone shader because I mostly use it in conjunction with other shaders, but I will post it here for you if you want to combine it with your own post shaders. Download attaced.

It does an adequate job, especially on moving characters, here are a couple comparisons, notice the reduction in jaggies.

EDIT: Not that I care about this kind of thing, but who the heck put a "dislike" on my Youtube video? What about this new feature is there possibly to dislike?!





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For the folks that aren't able to compile the source into an executable themselves:

Download.

Great job on this, thanks!

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Wow these are incredible. Youve out done urself this time Bond. Excuse me for the late 80's slang....but the rain one is totally boss.

Thanks to doomster too for the compiled .exe.

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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 21:14 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 21:19
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Quote: "but the rain one is totally boss"


Thanks! I didn't show that one in the video because it may have been too subtle for youtube. But as you've probably noticed, the rain very subtly refracts the scene, just like real rain!

Also, notice that some of the effects use additional textures, which you can swap with your own. For example, the "refract" shader uses a normal map to simulate water drops on the camera lens, but experiment with your own normal maps too for other effects!

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This is very interesting and opens even more doors in the development side than before.

Just out of curiosity, what happens if you script a shader that is missing or invalid? Does the engine crash, an error produced, or does it still run as normal and just skip using that "intended" shader? I'm not too concerned, but it does help to know when we are bug testing our developments.

I also assume you can specify more than one shader in one script? For example, use the filmgrain shader in one part, then the script switches to another shader specified.

Thank you for the hard work and providing us developers more tools to utilize. We appreciate it.


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Hello Doomster,

Thank you so much for your kindness and taking the time to provide the executable already compiled for people this forum who are unable yet to deal with the source code of the FPSC, like me.

Again thank you so much for your kindness and help.

Best regards.

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great stuff, fpsc just gets better and better, just had a brain overload of ideas when viewing that vid, inspiring thank Mr bond

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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 21:24 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 21:28
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Blackfox, you will get a hard crash and an error about a missing file if you try and script a shader that is missing. But, this makes script errors readily apparent!

And yes, it is possible to script as many shaders as you want in a script. Different effects for different states - as an example. It would be cool to make a melee charater use the "motionsickness" script to simulate making the player get knocked silly...

And for people who haven't seen this, here is my old filmgrain shader that you can use with this new command: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=172965&b=24 Now you can make and use as many variations as you like, you're not stuck with a single effect anymore!

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That's the thing what i needed !
Amazing job !

Does it will be implemented in the next update ?

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Quote: "Blackfox, you will get a hard crash and an error about a missing file if you try and script a shader that is missing. But, this makes script errors readily apparent!

And yes, it is possible to script as many shaders as you want in a script. Different effects for different states - as an example. It would be cool to make a melee charater use the "motionsickness" script to simulate making the player get knocked silly...
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Thanks for taking time to answer. It is good to know an error will show so we're not having to dissect too deep. And thanks for the ability to script multiple shaders. I was hoping it was possible- cuts down on the scripts you have to place

And thanks Tim for compiling the EXE. Appreciate your assistance there as well.


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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 21:53 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 22:26
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This is so amazing! Thanks to bond1 for the amazing effects, and to Doomster for the EXE!

Thanks again,
Akanto

EDIT: But what surprises me is that I keep getting this error, but only if I use the command in a script that's not yours:

Runtime Error 7008 - Object does not exist at line 15344.
Object Number Not Found: 65536

Bond, could you provide a little insight on what's happening if possible?

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Things like this remind me of the mysterious buried fpsc treasures that are just waiting to be discovered...

I could imagine millions of uses for these shaders! This is sooooooooo so cool! Thank you once again bond1!

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Posted: 29th Oct 2011 22:37 Edited at: 29th Oct 2011 22:39
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Excellent work as usual, my friend.

I knew you wouldn't have to worry about my being a spoiler in another thread. You are the man. There were probably only about 20 people who might have known about this yesterday. But, already you have over 200 who have viewed this thread -- in only a few hours!!

I have a question. In the setup.ini file, do you still set postprocessing to at least 1 in order to use these new shader effects? What about the ray effect which I think needs to be set at 3 or higher? Will the ray effect still work? When I glanced at your new code for post-processing it looks like it will; but, I just wanted to make sure.

I am looking forward to using this in a current game. The player gets knocked out just before one of the levels ends and I think the motionsickness effect will do for that and then the level fades out.

Thanks for all your hard-work.



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@Akanto10

I asked the question in my previous post about the setup.ini file. I answered my own question. You need to set postprocessing=1. If you don't you will get that error.



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Quote: "In the setup.ini file, do you still set postprocessing to at least 1 in order to use these new shader effects?"


Yes, the postprocessing flag in setup.ini must be set to 1 to activate the "standard" post-processing system. From there you're all set to go. It looks like lightrays use a different camera than the "standard" postprocessing shaders. So, for now, this command only works with postprocessing=1. It's probably worth me taking another look at some point though to see if I can make it play nice with lightrays.

And no worries about spoiling the surprise, I was just joking I was just a bit surprised that someone even noticed on the Google source page!

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@Flatlander,
Mine is set to 1. I've found that the only way to activate it without an error and without the provided scripts is to put it in the setuplevel.fpi.

Thanks,
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Akanto10, can I see the script you are trying to use that is giving an error? The command should work anywhere as long as postprocessing is set to 1 in setup.ini. There is nothing special about the scripts I provided - they are simple trigger zone scripts.

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Awesome work as always!

However, the exe makes enemies freeze in their animation cycle when dying. At least those from viral outbreak. They don`t go ragdoll, they keep doing their last action on the spot.

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There a multitude of scripts that won't work. Here's my setup.ini:


This one won't give me an error, but nothing happens:


This one gives me an error:


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What error do you get with the last one?

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Runtime Error 7008 - Object does not exist at line 15344.
Object Number Not Found: 65536

Thanks,
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That's just crazy awesome...

Quote: "Not that I care about this kind of thing, but who the heck put a "dislike" on my Youtube video? What about this new feature is there possibly to dislike?!"


Obviously it was someone who was to distracted from the awesomeness to find the like button.



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Quote: "Runtime Error 7008 - Object does not exist at line 15344.
Object Number Not Found: 65536

Thanks,
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I can confirm that on calling "bloom".

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OK, now I get the error on any effect I call.

EDIT:

Allright, here the bad news: I get the same error now on every level I try. No matter if a new Postprocess call is inside or not.

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I can't reproduce the error here. Could you post an FPM for me, and the script you're trying to use.

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The FPM is attached, and this is the script:



The script is in the folder with the other provided scripts.

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I don't have any errors either, even made a script that switches the postprocessing effect on a keypress and have gone through the different effects multiple times, without crashing.

The only thing I've noticed is, that the "none.fx" somehow manages to drop my framerate down to 2 FPS, while the others at least give ~15-18 FPS on my old machine.

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the filmreel posteffect makes monochrome, bloom and surreal keep crashing. Even in a 2*2 room without entities.
Motion Sickness is the only one working really perfectly.

EDIT: I ran 1.18 before adding the files, could this be a problem?

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Quote: " the exe makes enemies freeze in their animation cycle when dying. At least those from viral outbreak. They don`t go ragdoll,"


This looks like it's related to an update added back on June 7th related to ragdoll, that's a different issue altogether (one that I will look at).

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Odd. All of these shaders work for me.


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AMAZING Work Bond1! IDK how I missed this for this long... \\
Truly World Class is right! Simply marvelous work!

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Quote: "Odd. All of these shaders work for me."


Me too!

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Ertlov: not sure what problem you're having, other than to just make sure you have all the required files. The trigger zone scripts work, right?

Akanto10: the problem you're having is that your script is loading the effect before the post-processing system has fully initialized. You're script basically says that whenever the player IS NOT in the trigger zone, load the effect. Which is the opposite of how most people use trigger zones.

It's better to trigger the shader AFTER your level has loaded, or during the setuplevel.fpi script. Although I will be adding an engine-check to prevent a hard crash in the next revision, so that if you try and load a shader before the level has properly initialized, it will simply ignore it.

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Bond1, this looks absolutely amazing. This will take things to a whole new level. I'm sorry to ask, but I never used the google code site before. Where do I download the files?
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You did a great work!

I had to try it in my engine, some didnt work because of their extra maps parameters which my engine doesnt handle automatically but needs to be done by hand in lua. Altough here I attached an image, where the western.fx is on as fullscreen shader.

I totally love the rain effect, amazing!

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Nice work Mark, you have been in your cave for a while working on this I bet.


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Works perfectly. No problems here.

Edit:

I especially love gasmask, nightvision, rain, motionsickness.

You know how we all were wanting to be able to control bloom. Well, now we can. We can edit and save different bloom settings for different parts of our game. This is indeed exciting.



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Yep Flatlander - you're right, it would be very useful to have different bloom shaders. Weak, medium, strong for example - a single bloom rarely looks good on everything.

I've added another update to the Google source page. I've added a safety check to the SETPOSTEFFECT command to prevent a shader from trying to load before the level has properly initialized. I've also fixed an issue with ragdoll that affects Model Pack 52 characters.

Unless there are any more MAJOR issues, I'll leave this feature as is for now. It seems to be working well for most people and will go into the next official update.

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Is it possible to show the rain effect, My fpsc isn't working currently and I would love to see the rain effect :3

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I'll do it for ya VaMpIr3. Bond1 wasn't sure if it'll show up on youtube though. We'll give it a shot.



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