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Game Design Theory / Its a little bit early to come up with a new game but....

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 24th May 2005 03:51
Well I have tonnes of ideas for games, and well I can showcase that, I've even given an idea for an FPS to Soapy Fish because I didn't have room for it, so I can do no harm to post my ideas for my game after Ronin

Name: The Downward Spiral (maybe changed)
Style: RPG
Based around: George Orwells 1984
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You are a guy who lives in a world of facism, controlled by the media anything out of character would make him a criminal, media controls with fear and hatred to a man who can read in between the lines, but one day he is late for work and decides to take a short cut but gets lost and discovers a place he's never heard about, its a bright place with trees and birds and no smoke, it gives him a positive feeling, he discovers a resistance group who want to assassinate the president, so they 'unbrainwash' you and you see how they do, and you feel angry about the president and are overkeen to kill the president, then you attempt an assissination but fail and get brain washed.......

There will be lot of events so better not spoil them and the basic idea is to overthrow the government and remove facism and restore true democracy (restore? we've never had a real democracy lol) and well the ending will compare the plot of this and 1984 to how the world is today, and will hopefully get people to understand whats really going on in the world


well thats the plot, and well what do you guys think about it?

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Posted: 24th May 2005 08:17
im not into rpgs but its cool how its an rpg yet its around our technology level.

im not sure i got the story line. you start somewhere, not remembering all that happening, and find out that you were unbrainwahed, and brainwashed again, as you go along the story, ie, finding out about your past by clues? then once you found out enough you realise you must help the resistance? sounds cool
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Posted: 24th May 2005 10:57
sounds cool

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Posted: 24th May 2005 21:43
thanks, I hope it will get a political messege among the 'blind'

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Posted: 9th Jul 2005 23:23
I'm still thinking of names aghhh!!! Downward Spriral is the name of a Nine Inch Nails album, I can't steal it!

uhhhh

pulls out Japanese dictionary for cool sounding words or japanese alternatives......

sen'no, japanese for Brainwashing?
senzai'ishiki, Jap for subconcious, or just subconscious on its own?
The deteriating subconcious?
Spiralling subconcious
The deepening mind?

Not very good names, I want something to represent brainwashing or some one loosing their mind, so it would be nice if you guys picked your favourite or even better think of a better one

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 01:40
The name isn't teribly important. If you make the game first and come up with a name later, you'll probably come up a better name than you would now.

I could understand the idea for the story, and it sounds pretty cool.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 01:54
Cool idea.

If this game ever gets off the ground (which is quite likely) then you could possibly do a marketing/trailer along the style of the Red Faction adverts

(where the adverts appear as if they are someone from the 'inside' leaking information to you.)

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 07:27
sounds like a fun game
cant wait till its done(probably a while)


btw david i like your quote for lightning studios

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 09:30
I'm thinking of a name now while I'm doing Ronin, and yeah it'll be a while, ronin hasn't even gone past engine stage yet, I've gotten back onto the ronin engine today now that I manage to pry myself away from cinema 4D. Thanks for the comments

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 13:00
Good luck with both. I'd really like to see them get finished.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2005 20:59
same here, I've had a lot get in the way of ronin, like today for instance is a good example, I was gonna finish re-doing my engine to improve it, and my aunt and uncle will be around in a mo, last time I saw them was at their wedding so, may as be socialable.

I might make this along side with ronin, depends if I wanna get started earlier or something

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Posted: 12th Jul 2005 07:57
I'm looking for possible ideas, for music, should I got for a metal sort of style, but with a more mind running feeling, like someone is loosing there mind like in a few Nine Inch Nails songs and the song 'Choices' by mudvayne, I was thinking that would give the effect of some dude deciding between dream and reality and begining to see and read between the lines.

Oh and does anyone know a good cheap mp3 music maker for PC (theres one my school uses, I'm sures its cheap, i think ita expensive q....something) , my switch to mac will be in a long time, so using Garageband at the moment would cause a lot of inconvenience because I would have to borrow my mums mac when my sister uses that for the internet

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Sorry to interrupt but I think if the game is about losing/brainwashing your mind, I would suggest a few Linkin Park songs, (Papercut, 1 Step closer, Nobody's Listening etc.) cos I feel the sounds and lyrics would suit your idea well. Try to listen to a few if you can.
BTW I think your Idea is very cool - like someone sed earlier you could start to remember your past aka XIII Style.

Good Luck anyways,

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P.S I may be a rubbish programmer with no projects in progress, but I have a very cheap, if primitive way of recording music. Well, what I do is Record a song using my keyboard's rec. function, then play back the track, and record using VOICE on my mp3 player. I then transfer it to my Windows XP, and save it in Media Player. Just thought I'd let you know.

Dream the world is doing fine, forget the Nytmayres left behind. Nytmayre of the burning sin, nytmayres scream from you deep within.

Uh... What's the point of this bit?
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Posted: 14th Jul 2005 03:30
Cool, I could do links to the past, I have XIII weeew, barely played it, keep on dieing
Personally I feel the Nine Inch Nails effect for psychology works better than linken Park, because a lot of Nine Inch Nails songs cover the subject, look at the currect title of the game 'The Downward Spiral' NiN ablum lol (need to change it though) I've listened to some Linken Park, I don't think its suit the image I got in my head, but thanks for the idea in style.

I've already got my own way of recording, I either plug my guitar into the computer, if I want an acoustic guitar sound or something else I use the microphone, but I need a mp3 music file make like Garageband, but I can't keep on using my mums mac for that. Thabks for your concern though

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I use Cakewalk for my music. I get soundfonts online to get better insrument sounds and use them in my music. I then write the music in Cakewalk. I then record the midi(or .wrk) as a wave using a recording software through my sound card. I use audigy to fix it up a bit and save it as a mp3. It works really nicely.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2005 08:02
well if its a good midi one, then I don't think mp3 will matter unless I want to sound files to go at one.

I will try catwalk, I'm sure it'll do for ronin, and when I got money I'll get a good mp3 one for the downward spiral (as I want the more mp3 effect for it, I want the garageband sort of sound) But at the mo I'm saving up for my next 3D program, I'm contemplating betweern
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Posted: 20th Jul 2005 07:14
Okay, I'm gonna start this game in a couple of weeks, considering it will have the same engine as ronin, may as well stay warm with the code on both projects.
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I have come up with the starting game plan in my head, and well, this will be the first writing of the mind plan (and will add it to a .txt as well)

Introduction to what the world is like living in facism.
Chapter 1:
The Dream world:
Starts off with an intro video of the character (lets call him bob in the mean time) in a hill side, with trees and open land, basicly a metaphor of freedom, and then in his dream, the area turns dark and well the grass is not grass but ground, and the ground burns and the grim reaper comes into the picture. And well Bob runs from him, and well theres a bunch of monsters and you have to work a wait out and defeat monsters, and then you eventually beat a form of the grim reaper (not the reaper him self) and well thats when he wakes up.
The dream is a metaphor of what has happened, the field is the freedom of his mind, open as a wide field, and well the monsters take over his mind, being the brainwashing, and defeating the reaper is breaking free of his demons, therefore no long brainwashed.
And well the chapter don't end there, he gets up from bed, disdraught (in an FMV) and stands up to a cold looking room, and marches off to his door, ready to make himself some breakfast before going to work.

Theres more to the chapter, but well I don't wanna get into too much detail and well I can't make this post too long He basically tells his friends at work etc.

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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 05:49 Edited at: 21st Jul 2005 05:50
Story telling honestly mean nothing to me in games. If I wanted a good story & characters I would read a book or watch a movie. Your idea sounds very confusing though. I wanna see the Samurai game get done first.

P.S Always, before starting a game, make sure you know EXACTLY what you are going to do. Decide which level editor to use, what file formats, how will the models be made, what type of effects the game will have. Don't go "Well I want lightmaping for the levels, but I'll leave that for later and start codng now" becuase trust me you WILL run into problems.


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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 07:11
when I say I'm starting it in a couple of weeks, I mean planning and apply bits of the plan to the ronin engine, to form it into the Downward Spiral tech demo, telling only the first part of the story, it should not interfere with ronin too much. The preperation will work like ronin's, take ages on the planning (take out learning DB as I did for ronin) applying ideas in DB, then more planning, then game.

In two weeks i'll be applying ideas into the engine.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2005 20:46 Edited at: 26th Jul 2005 21:14
Actually I won't start this game yet although I started on the Grim Reaper, well may as well posted it for ye's



Note: This was done almost over a week a go, and I do realise there are some problems in the poly's, which will be sorted out when I get back to work on him

As for titles, Real or a Dream? I think I'll stick with that for now.
As The Downward Spiral will be copyrighted, and my other name would've been 'Demons in my head' but.....turns out to be a sex movie.....

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Sep that Album sucked so bad nobody would even know if you used "Downward Spiral" Lol.....
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Posted: 27th Jul 2005 20:39
I'm insulted! meh not everyone's gonna like nine inch nails well real or dream will stick until I can come up with something better, jeez why did Demon's in My head have to be a sex movie, that was a good name, bloody pervos taking all the good names

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I was just trying to ruffle your feathers
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Posted: 28th Jul 2005 05:48
How about some type of title involving the word 'rem' - as with the stages of sleepy time...I think there are 4 or 5 stages of rem sleep and your could implement it where the mind control only works on the player after stage 5 is reached...

So you could call your game "REM5 - Cerebral Invasion"
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Posted: 28th Jul 2005 07:59
REM5 and invasion sound less psycological and george orwell and more spacey sci-fi like, Cerebral could be used as part of it though, and well at the start of the game he is in mind control, the dream is a metaphor of whats already happened, and well its a recurring nightmare if you like, he manages to break free of his nightmare and mind control, and rebel, then is brainwashed again, and then being the hero, there has to be a happy ending and cliffhanger, so he has to beat the evil mind controlling government later. I could flash REM during to brainwashing period to emphasise subliminal messeges and rem sleep, and of course the work CONTROL has to be used as well. thanks for the inspiration,

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Posted: 29th Jul 2005 02:41
Abeyance is the new name, smart, sounds nice, and well courtesy of Animeblood, this guy is a walking talking thesauras, or a guy who uses an online one, however you wanna look at it

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Quote: "'Demons in my head' but.....turns out to be a sex movie.....
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ahh thats great is it like a porno or a actual movie with lots of sex?

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Posted: 29th Jul 2005 19:19
trust you to ask, watched it thinking it was a horror, my sister was the one who bought it, its a movie with loads of sex, and terribly acted

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