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AppGameKit Classic Chat / [bug] loop small wav just clicks and pops

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nz0
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Posted: 28th Mar 2020 16:53
I've encountered a critical problem while working on my XM player.
There's a bug with Playsound () looping small samples. This is especially damaging for playback of chip/synth or mathematically generated samples which are typically very small.
Here's an example WAV which you can play with any other sound tool and loops a continuous tone.

Using



This may also indicate an issue with GetSoundPlaying() being slightly off as I had to write my own version of it in the end.
It's probably not just an issue with small samples, but just more obvious (and a breaking issue).



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Virtual Nomad
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Posted: 28th Mar 2020 18:47 Edited at: 28th Mar 2020 18:49
yeah, the bug is horrible. and same occurs with .ogg sound.
trying with:

is no help:

but may provide insight?

similar: https://forum.thegamecreators.com/thread/225148

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nz0
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Posted: 28th Mar 2020 19:38
I would not be surprised if this happened with a stream, because it uses buffering.
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Posted: 30th Mar 2020 10:42
@Virtual Nomad, is there any specific reason why you don't load small samples as sound instead?
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Posted: 30th Mar 2020 13:37 Edited at: 30th Mar 2020 13:46
i do. but, from the linked thread, the music command set has native "GetDuration" support which could help with a manual looping function. that's the only reason i'd consider it.

a possible work-around would be to make all sounds the (theoretical minimum) 0.5 second duration and decide when to stop the sound from playing instead of deciding when to play the sound?
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Posted: 30th Mar 2020 17:54 Edited at: 30th Mar 2020 17:55
I was going to say that it wouldn't work in this scenario.

For XM looped instruments, they could be like this:

|================|==========|
start______________ loopstart_____looprepeat

Whereby the first single replay is start->looprepeat, then subsequently from loopstart->looprepeat.
I get around this in the player by splitting the sample into 2 different AppGameKit sounds.

However, you triggered a thought here by suggesting making the sound longer. I could take the loopstart->looprepeat part of the sample and unwrap it x times to make it hopefully long enough to work? Theoretically, the end result would be the same (doesn't matter about stopping, as it's an infinite loop), just consume a little bit of memory.
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Posted: 30th Mar 2020 22:45
Unrolling the sample loop portion to >256 bytes does work.
Tried it on some different samples and sometimes works better if unrolled to 1024 - not sure why.

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