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No Sanity!
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Posted: 8th May 2003 00:25
I'm thinking of buying the USB dongle for Dark Baisc before it finaly drives me insane with its insesent pestering for the disk, does any one else have any good\bad experiences with this? Does it work well? Also will it work if I plug it in a hub as i have no free USB ports.
Rob K
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Posted: 8th May 2003 01:04
Unless you are a commercial developer or a large institution it really isn't worth the money - If you are running the editor from launch.exe this will happen every time, run editor.exe instead.

As for the compiler, after Patch 4, the message only comes once every 500 compiles, so you'd have to be doing some serious developing to get through that many in one day. It would take 90 minutes of pure compiling time alone (assuming 10 secs / compile for a small-medium sized project) for this.

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Posted: 8th May 2003 01:11
Rob's right - but if you still want to buy one there's very little to them really. You get the dongle and a CD, you install the driver and the special version of DBPro from the CD, you whack the dongle into a USB port and that's it. You never hear from it again. It just sits there glowing away (it glows red when in use). Pretty painless really.

Cheers,

Rich

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Cras
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Posted: 8th May 2003 01:13 Edited at: 8th May 2003 01:14
when i get going on a project, 500 compiles aint much. although i wouldnt buy the dongle. I leave the dbp cd in the cd-rw drive at all times so its always there. Then i use the other one for whatever cds i need. so far ive used the cd-rw once so its not a problem

=>> EDIT =>> Oh yeah, you can get a cheap CD drive for less that the dongle so u can leave your cd in always too im a gnius, just thoought of it then.

=>> EDIT AGAIN =>> Shame I cant spell
Kale
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Posted: 8th May 2003 03:03
>Oh yeah, you can get a cheap CD drive for
>less that the dongle so u can leave your
>cd in always too

LOL! Good point! Some people are so thick, i cant believe people pay $59.99 for a dongle but you could get a cheap CD drive for less, LMAO!!!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_CD_ROM_Drives_113.html : £14.30 ($22.82) LOL!

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 8th May 2003 04:04
$22 CD-Roms are of course a great benefit to those who bought dongles for their laptops or University networks

Cheers,

Rich

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Jason Leigh
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Posted: 8th May 2003 09:04
This fall, if all goes well, I would like to teach a class using DBPro. I would most likely like to purchase a site license for the department and install it on bout a dozen or so PCs.
I can't leave the disks in the drive or the students would walk off with them. A dongle wouldn't work either since the students can just pop them out and take them.

Can someone from a university who is using DBPro describe how they are addressing these problems?

Thanks
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Posted: 8th May 2003 15:06
maybe the cd after compliles isnt such a good idea. maybe the db people should think of a better way to stop people from using the product without paying it. For example with the darkbasic you get a special key and you need this to access the darkabsic community eg. these forum... that wouldnt actually work since ppl would use unofficial forums but im sure you could think of something. How about a one use file for the people to use. It makes the changes and deletes itself. If they want to reinstall, then umm... ok yet another bad idea... but you see my angle. if i come up with an idea ill let you know.
No Sanity!
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Posted: 8th May 2003 15:33
If you want to use the computers in a university why not either buy a locking mechanism for the CD drives (if you use the CD drives you will have to buy a second set like sugested above^) or buy an adapter that converts the internal ports opn the USB card to the proper fullsize USB ports used by the dongle then hide it somewhere in the case. Alternitavily you could issue the CD's like textbooks and if the students damage or don't return the disks then charge them for the replacement CD's.
No Sanity!
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Posted: 8th May 2003 15:37
Another idea waht about a network CD server, im sure you university will have one of these but i don't know if it will work with darkbaisc, comments please rich!
Jason Leigh
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Posted: 8th May 2003 17:00
Doing mods to the PCs themselves isn't going to fly for our sysadmins. They are already bawking at my wanting Linux PCs- I haven't told them yet I want them to be dual bootable

The individual cd for students is a good idea. The sysadmins would purchase a site license and install it on the machines. Then the students would buy their own copy which they can need to access it.
I can't wait for the late assignment excuses to come in "my dog at my cd so I couldn't do my homework."

The virtualCD is another possibility.

Does anyone know if the demo version of DB in the textbook is the same as the one online- ie it expires after 30 days?
mhack
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Posted: 8th May 2003 17:14
You can lock CD drives buy software, a few line of code in asm/c.

the_winch
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Posted: 8th May 2003 23:53
All it takes to open a cd drive is a paperclip or somthing to lever it open.
How about loosening the drive retaining screws and sliding the drives back into the case. Then fit a plastic panel infront of the drive.
Cras
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Posted: 9th May 2003 00:38
nah you just do what our college has done, drill a hole and stick a bloody great bolt (strategically placed mind you' through.

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