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iac249
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I subscribe to Game Developer magazine and noticed an ad placed by RealOne™ Arcade announcing a game development competition in which the grand prize is $100,000.

Visit http://gamedevs.realonearcade.com/ for details.

Here is what I pulled off their website:

Quote: "Win $100,000 in the RealOne™ Arcade Game Developer Showdown!
RealNetworks challenges creative game developers to design and develop new downloadable games for electronic distribution to the huge mainstream game playing audience available through RealOne™ Arcade. By entering the RealOne™ Arcade Game Developer Showdown you can pit your game against other game developers to compete for cash prizes!

The contest begins on July 1, 2003 and ends July 31, 2003. During this time, you may enter your game into the contest. To submit your game, visit the contest website, log in, and proceed through the contest entry and submission process which will involve filling out an entry form, uploading your game to RealNetworks, and printing, signing, and providing RealNetworks with required contest paperwork. Follow the directions carefully! Also, make sure you are completely satisfied with your game before you submit it, because once you submit it you cannot change or update your submission.

Any inquiries about this process, or other aspects of the contest can be sent to [email protected]. "


Just thought I'd let everyone know!
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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 11th May 2003 07:00
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Open to Americans only.

/boycott.

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Yes, it's annoying when that happens, isn't it?

I tried to enter a competition to win a limited editon deck of cards with my favourite Dead or Alive characters on the back. Got most of the way through and it tells me I had to be in the US! I'm sure it was pointing and laughing at me while it told me.

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Just make a game and send it to me and I will enter it for you.
I promise I will give you half of the money if I win.


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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 11th May 2003 14:53
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I'm a little tired of American web-racism and insularism to bother Randi, but thanks for the offer.

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"American web-racism and insularism"
I don't know what you mean, but it was just a joke.
I didn't really expect anyone to do it.


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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 11th May 2003 21:37
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I know kitten, just following my national trait by slandering your national trait - it's an English thing.

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not really such a bad idea randi, what stops you from making the game and giving it to someone in the US to send in for you? might even consider it it's not like they need to see u face 2 face or anything or do they?

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Andy Igoe
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According to the competition rules Iraqi can enter, but not someone in Britain! The rules state resident of a US controlled territory. It's a bit like that web page host that only lets you view pages if your domain is American...

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dunno why, but it's the restricion that's making me wanna enter even more, in fact, i'm definately entering , i've already got an american contact to enter into the competition! oh yeah, you guys didn't hear, read or see anything this message will self destruct in 3..2..1

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makes me laugh how RealNetworks can take money from any part of the world but seem unable to pay it out to any part of the world, but the American legal system is weird like that, I know during the cold war some high tec computer cards where made in the USA that had what American customs officials said where high technology components that could not be sold to a whole list of proscribed countries, including the UK, the high-tec components this ban was intended to protect where transputer chips made in (you guessed it) Cambridge UK, doh!, I think Homer Simpson had a job in US customs before he moved to Springfield

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This is getting off topic, and turning into a flamefest. It dosen't acomplish anything to sit around flaming a nation.

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What happens to your game after you enter it? Do RealNetworks sell it with out giving you anything?
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I'd read their privacy policy. That what I'm betting though-- they like doing things like that... seems very Crystal Interactive to me...

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randi
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I don't think Iraq counts. I hope that was a joke. :-s
I think that means like Guam or something.

But any how...
If anyone does want me to enter for them, than I would.
And I wouldn't take half either!!
10% is plenty.

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off topic and turning into a flamefest? where? a couple of humorous observations and a bit of whinge, RealNetworks DO make a living from global trade via the net, seems a bit unfair to refuse any entries from countries that contributed to their wealth..seems fair to me to whinge on that.

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I really don't think that RealNetworks' exclusion of non-American countries is based on discrimination. It's simply a matter of logistics. Each country has their own rules about contests, winnings, donations, gifts and such. It may just be that RealNetworks doesn't want to have to deal with all that, and figures by opening it up only to American territories they can deal with a majority of customers and also the laws that they know best.

On a side-note: PneumaticDryll, the contest is oppened to "U.S. Controlled Territories", meaning countries that are part recognized as being part of the United States. Contrary to the current world view, America has not officially annexed Iraq (however it may look) and therefore its citizens would not be allowed to enter.

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Here's my take on this. If I wanted to hold a contest and give away money as a prize, it would be UP TO ME as who I wanted to enter it. What I'm getting sick of is people whining because someone is trying to do something nice and just because some people feel they are "entitled" they complain that they can't participate. It's up to the contest holder to decide on the rules. If they don't fit to your liking, then ignore the contest. They world does not owe anyone.

Another example is a girl wanting to join the "Boy Scouts of America" just because she feels entitled. It's called the Boy Scouts for a reason. Just because you don't like the way a system works doesn't give you the right to interfere.

These are my opinions, and mine alone. I speak for no one else.

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Kensupen: Well said, quite true if u'd stop and think about it.

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iac249
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I think it's unfortunate that RealOne has decided to exclude non-US countries from the competition; however, it is possible they did so for logistical/legal reasons.
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Posted: 13th May 2003 02:06 Edited at: 13th May 2003 02:07
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Maybe so Kensupen, but,
Quote: "RealNetworks challenges creative game developers to design and develop new downloadable games for electronic distribution to the huge mainstream game playing audience available through RealOne™ Arcade. "


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I agree with Kensupen pretty much despite how i've come across above. They don't want my potential entry and therefor I don't want anything to do with them.

It is a shame because i've a few projects in the works i'm sure could give a solid performance, even though it is unlikely Banshee would win such a competition.

I just hope they dont go all Baseball and start calling the winner 'WORLDS BEST xxxx'.

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hmm .. maybe they've should've be more specific in telling whether its open to US only or to worldwide. For example:

"RealNetworks challenges US creative game developers to design and ..."

.. then again, they did tell it in the end.

If to think about it, let say a coloring contest is going on at the remote island of Polkadots, and it "challenges any creative students within the age of 9-12" to enter it, heck even I would be caught dead to attack the school and yell at them - "hey, i'm 48 years old here, and i'm creative & i luv coloring, u can't restrict me from this!!" (just an example!)

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yes thay have logistical/legal reasons for it just being in the us,but Dark Basic Software can do a Global competition.

the true is about TAX if you win this and you live in the UK you pay up to 25% of the prizes to the Tax man. i do`t now if you can get gifts that big in the US whit out have to pay tax on it? that may true legal reasons.

PS.PneumaticDryll as for Baseball thay say there the best becos thay can beet canada.

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Most public schools round here have a girls team that plays rounders to a very high standard, but they arn't included in the American World Cup? I can't understand that.

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Whats weard is that the people that dis like AMERICA
use AMERICAN things. like the PC and a nice GF4 card or P4.

ME I like the United Kingdom and Most of all I love AMIERICA.
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Yes... you will pay tax on this prize. Most definetly!!

This is $100,000, not some graphics card.
Uncle Sam will want a piece of that.

That's something that people do not realize.
They watch these game shows on TV and don't know that you will have to pay tax on them BEFORE you can receive the prize.

I am sure it is very hard to a world wide contest with such a big prize, and it all has to do with money.

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I for one hate the RealNetwork. I think their software is crap. Real player is a bunch of spyware. I agree that they should make the US only thing part of their title. But, if they opened the door to other programmers, someone from the UK or Germany would win. We need to show off our crappy games too.

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I think someone from russia would win. I cant read the russian sites, but afterc navigating around i have found some pretty impressive screenshots of games they have made, shame they are in russian
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Let's face it - us non US folks are really moaning cos $100,000 is a fair wodge of cash and you don't see compos like this for folks like us that often...so it's just annoying!

but I wouldn't enter anyway - So a few people will win prize money but ultimatly Real Networks could end up with hundreds of great ideas for games that they could go write themselves - who's gonna prove they stole it from one of your entries?
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Pah, let the mericans keep their compo - Rich will hold one with £100,000 prize money anyway, so it's no problem .

I think it is unfair to restrict the nationality - considering it's online and there's no real logistic reason for doing that. I mean, imagine if DBS had a UK ONLY competition? - all the Americans here would go nuts, and rightly so.

Did I read rightly, 1 month? - by god they expect you to write a game in one month then enter it with the hope of getting $100,000 as a prize!. It's obvious and painful that someone will use an existing C++ engine to make the winning game.


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Like another situation...some games company advertises for a "Game Designer" position in the company. Applicants have to write to them explaining how they would change and improve one of their latest titles - just so happens that they are also working on the sequel to said title. So MAYBE they give someone the job but they certainly benefit from hundreds of ideas from budding game designers. That's just rude!
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Quote: "Rich will hold one with £100,000 prize money anyway, so it's no problem .
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And its in Pound (£)!!!

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And in cash! - so Blair can't have a penny!

I suppose we can dream .


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Yeah Van, maybe they'll figure DB progammers amount to nothing, and the measure of nothing is 0, so they'll add some more 0's to the prize total....

How's that for well considered logic

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Hehe, RealOne posted the following about their game comp:

Quote: "CANADIAN DEVELOPERS ARE NOW ELIGIBLE

By popular demand, RealOne Arcade Developer Showdown is now open in both the United States and Canada."
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cool, so we now just need to wait for another 3-4 days more before Europe, Australia, Asia & Antartica to be open too! lol

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Isn't Canada part of America anyway?

*ducks*

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What are you ducking for?
Of course Canada is part of America.
North America


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Instead of whining I contacted Real and US legal constraints can't allow anyone in the world to enter the competition, BUT they will happily accept games from anyone, anywhere outside of the competition. If the games good enough it will make money anyway.
So... no excuses anymore for not finishing that genre-busting masterpiece and sending it in chaps.

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