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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Minimumsystem requirements on games createt with FPSCX10

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Maxi Studio
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What is the;
Minimumsystem requirements on games createt with FPS Creator X10??

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Quote: "Windows Vista operating system; P3 1GHz processor; 512Mb memory; Direct X10 graphics card; 2Gig hard drive. "

...From the latest Newsletter concerning FPSC X10.



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Maxi Studio
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Tx, but is Direct X already installed with Vista??

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I believe so, but you can visit the Vista site to be sure.



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Maxi Studio
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Ye, it is intergrated!!
Go ahead and look!!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/features/details/directx.mspx

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Will these be the features required to play the games? I am just curious, because I know alot of people aren't upgrading to Vista
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Quote: "Will these be the features required to play the games?"


KeithC..??

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You need Vista and a compatible graphics card to play FPSCx10 games just like you would if you were to make them.

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thats not cool. Maybe in a few years. I guess that is how long it is expected to make a new game.
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Posted: 10th Mar 2007 01:58 Edited at: 10th Mar 2007 02:01
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Quote: "Windows Vista operating system; P3 1GHz processor; 512Mb memory; Direct X10 graphics card; 2Gig hard drive."


You really don't believe that do you? FPSC 1.0 games hardly even run on a system like that. Also note that there aren't going to be any DX10 cards for those systems at all, so how in the world would you run X10 games on those systems if you don't have an X10 gfx card in them?

Miminum specs for a FPSC X10 game is a system that can comfortably handle a good DX10 gfx-card, in other words at least a X64 cpu, 2Gb RAM and a decent (not low level / entry) DX10 Card.

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The minimums for FPSC should be 2.0 GHZ with 1 GB 533 Ram

I agree with Ben's take Especially for making the games.
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Posted: 10th Mar 2007 03:07 Edited at: 10th Mar 2007 03:08
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Quote: "You really don't believe that do you? FPSC 1.0 games hardly even run on a system like that. Also note that there aren't going to be any DX10 cards for those systems at all, so how in the world would you run X10 games on those systems if you don't have an X10 gfx card in them?

Miminum specs for a FPSC X10 game is a system that can comfortably handle a good DX10 gfx-card, in other words at least a X64 cpu, 2Gb RAM and a decent (not low level / entry) DX10 Card"


Then I have a big suprise for you....it suprised me.Nvidia WILL be making a 8XXX AGP chipset....And on the other front PCI-e is already on revision 2.0 and should be rolling out the new slot any time now.Again bad news for user who have PCI-e 1.0 slots....as newer gen cards....would not have to support PCI-e 1.0


So if your socket 370 sports a AGP x8 slot you should have no problems at all....Perhaps AGP X4 could work as well.

And the on the open source front rumours are, there is a team busy working on getting DX10 software working on DX9 hardware....How they are going about it is any ones guess....like I said this is a rumour and might not hold any truth.But I guess if there is a will there is a way.....




Quote: "X64 cpu, 2Gb RAM and a decent (not low level / entry) DX10 Card"
That my friend is bull dust.....Clearly you have no idea what is going on in the world of hardware and software....

Since X10 and I'm pretty sure here is going to be 32bit it would make NO DIFFERENCE if it's run with a 32bit or a 64bit CPU.

As for the ram 2 gig where do you come up with this stuff?? I would really like to read the Sci-fi mag your reading mabye I'll get better perspective...on your way of reasoning because clearly I missed something while reading the system requirements from the Mickysoft website.....Just to refresh any one memmory this is right from the horse mouth

Quote: "HOME BASIC
1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

512 MB of system memory

20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)"



Quote: "Home Premium
1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor

1 GB of system memory

40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space

Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:

WDDM Driver

128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)

Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware

32 bits per pixel

DVD-ROM drive

Audio Output

Internet access (fees may apply)"



Home Premium require more ram and better graphics why you ask? only because it includes vista aero desktop....

And the other reason why FSPC system requirements won't be high is none other than this current user base not having top of the range PC's....why shoot your self in the foot.


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Posted: 10th Mar 2007 19:33 Edited at: 10th Mar 2007 19:36
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Quote: "As for the ram 2 gig where do you come up with this stuff?? I would really like to read the Sci-fi mag your reading mabye I'll get better perspective...on your way of reasoning because clearly I missed something while reading the system requirements from the Mickysoft website.....Just to refresh any one memmory this is right from the horse mouth"


It's called common sense...... On the windows website are bare minimum specs, those aren't the specs for a pc running DX10. You still have to run FPSC X10 on top of that, I just can't believe anyone truly believes X10 will run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card. Even FPSC v1 doesn't run on such a system.

Besides just read the reports, by now we all know that Vista doesn't really run on a system with 1Ghz CPU & 512Mb RAM, let along FPSC X10 with a DX10 card. Even XP doesn't run comfortable on such a system. It runs, but that's about it.

It's simple math..... with every upgrade of windows you'll need a better pc, with every upgrade of DX more of your system is demanded. Go ahead and believe that FPSC X10 games will run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card. FPSC 1 games don't even run well on a 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX9 card and we all know that X10 will be more demanding then V1 is now.

You can quote all of the minimum system requirements for Vista and X10 you want, but by now we all know the recommendation from all the hardware/software testing sources: wait with installing Vista until you get a new pc or have recently bought one. That's not my recommendation, that's from many sources, like magazines, major websites, hardware freaks and so on.

I'm not reading some kind of scifi magazine, I'm just just being sensible and no can fool me into believing that games made with X10 run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card.

Besides we all know TGC is way off with their minimum requirements for FPSC V1, so I'm 100% sure they even got it more wrong this time. I'll stick to my miminum specs for a FPSC X10 game being a system that can comfortably handle a good DX10 gfx-card, in other words at least a X64 cpu, 2Gb RAM and a decent (not low level / entry) DX10 Card and you'll see soon enough that I was correct about it.

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Quote: "Quote: "As for the ram 2 gig where do you come up with this stuff?? I would really like to read the Sci-fi mag your reading mabye I'll get better perspective...on your way of reasoning because clearly I missed something while reading the system requirements from the Mickysoft website.....Just to refresh any one memmory this is right from the horse mouth"

It's called common sense...... On the windows website are bare minimum specs, those aren't the specs for a pc running DX10. You still have to run FPSC X10 on top of that, I just can't believe anyone truly believes X10 will run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card. Even FPSC v1 doesn't run on such a system.

Besides just read the reports, by now we all know that Vista doesn't really run on a system with 1Ghz CPU & 512Mb RAM, let along FPSC X10 with a DX10 card. Even XP doesn't run comfortable on such a system. It runs, but that's about it.

It's simple math..... with every upgrade of windows you'll need a better pc, with every upgrade of DX more of your system is demanded. Go ahead and believe that FPSC X10 games will run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card. FPSC 1 games don't even run well on a 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX9 card and we all know that X10 will be more demanding then V1 is now.

You can quote all of the minimum system requirements for Vista and X10 you want, but by now we all know the recommendation from all the hardware/software testing sources: wait with installing Vista until you get a new pc or have recently bought one. That's not my recommendation, that's from many sources, like magazines, major websites, hardware freaks and so on.

I'm not reading some kind of scifi magazine, I'm just just being sensible and no can fool me into believing that games made with X10 run on a system with 1Ghz CPU, 512Mb RAM and a DX10 card.

Besides we all know TGC is way off with their minimum requirements for FPSC V1, so I'm 100% sure they even got it more wrong this time. I'll stick to my miminum specs for a FPSC X10 game being a system that can comfortably handle a good DX10 gfx-card, in other words at least a X64 cpu, 2Gb RAM and a decent (not low level / entry) DX10 Card and you'll see soon enough that I was correct about it."
And if your not....Lets make a deal with the devil who ever loses has to print this post and eat it...??


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cmon guys, I know you both are mature. You don't need to fight over this.

One of you is talking technically correct, while the other is talking practically correct. Neither one of you is wrong and its pointless to fight over something like this.

I know a LOT of games (most of them?) which state recommended specs, but then even with those, you still need to tone down the effects and resolution to get a lagless game.
So I guess when they state 'minimum specs', the talk about specs required for the program to start running.
I don't think they talk about running it without lag

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I have played games where I could crank my pc up above the recommended settings (such as resolution) and those I have had to crank the settings down on.
There are even some I have tried to play and my pc just laughs at me...and laughs and laughs...
It really depends on the game,your pc and a myriad of other issues.
Most of us know enough to adjust whatever settings are necessary to make things work.

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