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Ugh
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 04:59
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Ah, this is so annoying. I am trying to model a face but God made the human face so hard to model on 3DC. Does anyone have any tips on what to do, what to use? They would help me alot.

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indi
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 05:09
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the internet is full of tutorials and methods regarding this process which can be very easily found using google.

each tutorial however is geared towards that particular 3d package
the process is very similar to most packages and methods but the tool names and tool types might change with each product.

First of all 3d canvas has a tutorial section which you could translate the tools to what you require.
http://www.amabilis.com/tutorials.htm

Then try some tutorials

http://www.thehobbitguy.com/tutorials/polymodeling/page01.htm

http://www.maya3d.dk/Tutorials/HeadModeling/HeadModeling.htm

http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials/modeling/polygon/191.html



now when modeling a head its important to have a reference, either you draw scan and put in your package or you reference some image.

Luckily the human race takes photos of all criminals including bill gates with these profile shots
Thinking laterally allows you to research content of this kind



http://www.mugshots.com/

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Venge
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 14:16 Edited at: 19th Mar 2007 22:39
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....
Yea, do that...

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indi
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 14:36
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once again mate if you cant find something positive to say, you will end up having all your posts moderated. Now I know its your opinion, however its not called for.

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Van B
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 14:48
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Nice links Indi...

I was gonna post a seperate thread (or wasn't, one or the other) - but does anyone have a human skull model?

Any size, and detail level, I'd just really like a guideline and I think using a skull makes sense, kinda build the head model over it if you know what I mean.

I actually have this idea for custom head modeling software, again though I really need a skull to start with.


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indi
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 14:53 Edited at: 19th Mar 2007 14:58
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I used to have a whole skeleton in sydney when i lived in the warehouse from a hospital, apparently is was an indian boy from deli or somewhere.

the wiki has a good reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skull




my gf did a spate of anatomy and disection at university, the smell was shocking and buckets of legs creeped me out, however you could photograph one there fairly easily if you required the real mcoy.

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Shadow Coderer
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 20:49
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I had 3d canvas a while ago. The free version is pretty useless when compared to other free apps. Go get blender I suggest that you start with a cube and just add detail as required. Best to keep edgeflow though! Which basically means your poly lines should match the shape of the face, fanning out of major features such as the mouth and eyes.

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Kieran
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 21:07
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once again venge managed to post negatively

as for shadow, i have never used 3D canvas, but so far i see that the reference pics are the way to go, just model around them.


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BenDstraw
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 21:45
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a person not able to model a human face doesnt mean his app sucks. just mean he hasnt been experienced enough to great a reasonable face

God modelled man in his own reference image.
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Venge
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 22:41
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Quote: "once again venge managed to post negatively"


Okay, the several hundred positive, helpful posts vs. the 5 (including this one, 6) negative posts...

It's only the negative ones that matter?

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JimB
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 23:13
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Heres a Blender tutorial on making a face,it can be applied to other software.
[href][/href]http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread?t=20448
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Posted: 19th Mar 2007 23:15
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I've uploaded a Zip File of all the head references i own. They are not mine. I would credit the author here (and it is due as these are fantastic references) But i just cant pinpoint where i got the from now.

Hope this Helps.

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Van B
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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 17:13
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Thanks guys, this thread is so damn useful now I feel like I should have brought muffins to share .


Good guy, Good guy, Wan...
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Venge
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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 22:42
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I was thinking of modeling a human skeleton for reference, since we just finished studying that in human bio.
Yes/no?

Now we're dissecting pig hearts...yummy.

This unbiased, positive, helpful, politically correct post brought to you by indi.
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Posted: 21st Mar 2007 00:02
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Use reference images, follow tutorials, even follow non-head organic tutorials, they can be very helpful, here are some I have made that might be useful (One is unfinished due to computer errors):

This one is pretty basic for modelling, but is pretty much the essentials, I hope these can be quite useful, shows some good organic techniques that help me all of the time.
http://seppuku-arts.koetsuaboshi.net/?q=node/5

This one is my tutorial base at Ozark Games, some articles may be of interest, particularly my unfinished head modelling tutorial and my low poly hair tutorial (Without texturing)

http://www.ozarkgames.com/smf/index.php?topic=655.0

And here is one excellent video tutorial, its done in lightwave, but it applicable in most other applications, it doesn't tell you what to do, it just shows you the process of modelling at tutorial, if you use this one, you may want to use my first link of tutorials as a reference, might be handy.

This is one of Kurv Studio's free videos, but you still have to login/sign up to actually view the page. As there are two halves to the video.

There are two head modelling videos together, those are the ones you want to view.

http://www.kurvstudios.com/free_tutorials/lightwave_free_tutorials.php?s=e9ea17c77e52fecf05246d515173d6a8&u=20435

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BenDstraw
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hey Ugh you should post an attempt of a human face and someone will critique it to help you make better faces in the future.

God modelled man in his own reference image.
comment my art at: http://www.bendstraw.deviantart.com
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JimB
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Posted: 21st Mar 2007 00:28
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If anyone wants to use it here is a face I made based on the Blender tutorial.
[href]null[/href][href][/href]

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Posted: 21st Mar 2007 00:53
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There is also the famous Joan of arc tutorial here http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp
The head section is very detailed.Then so is the rest
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