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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Renaissance Paintings

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Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:27
I have some awesome Paintings that look good in FPSC!

Here's a screen shot!

I have some more screen shots HERE!

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Inspire
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:31
Is it okay to sell these? Because, (if you didn't paint them) is it okay with the artists?

rolfy
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:38
Most of these kind of paintings are copyright of the museums and galleries or private collectors who own them.
Most museums and galleries will sell prints, postcards or gain revenue from book printing etc,the artists themselves are long gone.
Komet
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:52 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 01:53
Quote: "Is it okay to sell these? Because, (if you didn't paint them) is it okay with the artists?"


You could try asking the artists, I have a ouji board you could buy
Locrian
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:53 Edited at: 25th Mar 2007 05:40
Rolfy, obviously you don't believe in reincarnation. I happen to know most certainly that Vincent Van Gogh, is alive and well, and doing street paintings and other assorted works of art.




(Don't worry Vince, it's not eating up your bandwidth)
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 01:58 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 02:06
Thats it Loc,I'm gonna sue ya for copyright infringement
I'll get a free copy of Sinnin'Soul out of ya one way or another.

BTW,Vincent was barking,and his paintings are dreary to say the least,but £32million for one painting wow!
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 02:05
Quote: "Most of these kind of paintings are copyright of the museums and galleries or private collectors who own them.
Most museums and galleries will sell prints, postcards or gain revenue from book printing etc,the artists themselves are long gone."


Paintings of this nature are considered public doamin, however if they are comprised in a series you may not duplaicate the series in the exact manner and sell it. Most things that are of historicle or social value are considered under public domain.

Cheers,
RF


Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 02:09 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 02:15
Thanks RF, I couldn't say it better myself!

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FYI:

The Pack has over 40 Quality paintings!

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rolfy
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 02:35
Quote: "Paintings of this nature are considered public doamin"

Have to differ on that one,the quote below is from the Brooklyn museum in the states and refers to rennaisance works,this copyright is common to all works of art held in galleries around the world,even for academical use there is a fee.
This is true of all galleries and private collections.
The Brooklyn charges up to $500 for reproductions like these,if for commercial use.

Unless otherwise noted, all content copyright © 2004 the Brooklyn Museum. Some rights reserved. Non-commercial use of text and images, with attribution, is permitted under the terms of a Creative Commons License.

Copyright and other proprietary rights may be held by individuals or entities other than or in addition to the Brooklyn Museum. The Museum does not warrant that the use of materials displayed on this site will not infringe on the rights of third parties, such as artists or artists’ heirs holding the rights to these works. For works of art from other museums, institutions, or owners reproduced on this site, contact the institution or owners credited in the work’s caption.
Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 02:48
These paintings are not really from the Renaissance Era, I just called it that because it sounds neat. Most of these are philosophical paintings which are apart of the public domain.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 02:48
I hate to say this. Don't get mad at me or anything. But you're doing no work to gain some money for things we can easily do ourselves.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 03:20 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 03:27
I just went to tha website, It's funny people only read what they want to read. These paintings are considered public domain through the creative commons agreement, Though have to find out what each museum actual owns and what is state owned and that goes for paintings from around the world. Most paintings are owned by individual states or countries which in turn makes them fall under public domain or the creative commons agreement. Have another read here and make sure you look at both links as this is the actual copyright link that the brooklyn museum provides.

http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/copyright.php

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/legalcode

Cheers
RF


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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 03:37 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 03:38
Quote: "It's funny people only read what they want to read."

Your right about that,this is the creative commons deed.
Quote: "to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work"

Quote: "Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes."

As this pack is for sale,does this or does it not make it commercial.
Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 04:06 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 04:10
Quote: "As this pack is for sale,does this or does it not make it commercial."


None of the images in my pack came from the Brooklyn Museum or that website therefor, that portion of the deed dose not apply.

rolfy
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 04:37 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 05:09
NueB ,I,m not trying to rain on your parade dude,I really admire your work.But the example I have given above applies to most if not all works of art held in museums around the world,the Brooklyn is only an example.
I worked full time for Museums and galleries for six years and I know what I know.The era or style doesn't come into it either whether rennaisance,pre-raphaelite or cubist,in my city which is one of the only ones worldwide where entry is free to all venues due to it being public money which is used to fund and purchase works,the galleries own copyright.
Also,I believe the creative commons deed in this case applies to reproductions purchased from the gallery,heck they charge $25 for a jpeg for research and academical purposes,this is under attribution.
And you cant just choose which part of the deed suits you.It's all applicable

Quote: "to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work.
Under the following conditions:

Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes.

No Derivative Works. You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work"


Anyway go ahead and sell em if you want,it's not really my problem.
best rolfy.
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 10:23 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 12:34
Rolfy- I understand what you are talking about; it depends on the ownership of the media. I think nue B should hold up and locate the original resting places for these works of art and find out if they are state owned or privitely own or if the museum owns them. I know it's a lot of work for some paintings but the leg work will pay off in the long run. As I stated before there are huge differences depending on who owns them.

Nue B- Man i would seriously hold up and find the sources of the paintings you re using. And then once you figure out what copyright governs them you can start again.

Regards,
RF


Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 14:25
Okay, to avoid any legal issues. I’ve decided to offer the Paintings Pack FREE*
Please see details on my site.

Snowwolf
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 14:43
Right to offer it free, i think you made it with signs, however cool paintings


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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 14:53
Quote: "The first at the top is in a table all it's own and says "Plaque Pack" above the buynow button.

If you want me to make you custom huds with scripts, use the latter buynow button at the bottom of the page!

There is a Price difference. $6.00 and $11.00 respectfully.
If an ordering mistake is made, I will refund the difference."


I don't understand, you seem to have removed the cheaper option you had yesterday (which I was considering getting) and now the only option available is $1 more with the free(!) paintings included...
Nue B
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 15:07 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 15:45
Yes, I'm now selling the Plaque Pack for $12 so that I can add the Paintings for free! You'll get 26 FPSC Ready entities with the Plaque Pack and now a bonus 43 FPSC Ready Wall Paintings! This price is actually $5 cheaper than if you would've ordered them separately yesterday!

Quote: "Make sure inculed the license man."


Will do RF!

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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 15:11
Make sure inculed the license man.


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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 00:07 Edited at: 25th Mar 2007 00:17
Quote: "Yes, I'm now selling the Plaque Pack for $12 so that I can add the Paintings for free! You'll get 26 FPSC Ready entities with the Plaque Pack and now a bonus 43 FPSC Ready Wall Paintings! This price is actually $5 cheaper than if you would've ordered them separately yesterday!"


I guess I'm an idiot as I don't understand how upping the price $6 means that someone is getting the painting pack for free irrespective of whether it's cheaper than if I'd bought the 2 separately yesterday. Whatever way I look at it, I would be paying $6 more for the same pack but I'd be getting free paintings. Unless I completely misunderstand, of course, and something else has been added to the pack apart from the free paintings.

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I'm not trying to cause trouble here, I'm just trying to sort it out in my own mind. So please don't take offense.
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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 05:02
he is using the same theory that alot of ebay sellers use...sell the item of .99 and then charge a grip for the postage. where is is trying to work around commons license and just upping the pack in price and giving the paintings away for free....though he leaves a clear foot print of what he is doing here....


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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 18:50
can people in this thread stop quoting cause it very annoying

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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 22:31
Quote: "can people in this thread stop quoting cause it very annoying"


Sorry...couldn't help myself...

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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 22:32
Quote: "Sorry...couldn't help myself..."


Toilet grass...

Nue B
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Posted: 26th Mar 2007 01:40 Edited at: 26th Mar 2007 01:41
Quote: "can people in this thread stop quoting cause it very annoying"


Be that as it may, quoting helps the reader to know which post you are replying to.

For example; had I not quoted before this post, Someone who jumps straight to page two would have No idea what I’m talking about.

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Posted: 27th Mar 2007 21:00
Quote: "Toilet grass..."


roflmao, never heard this expression before...love it!
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Quote: "roflmao, never heard this expression before...love it"


I'll play along with your little game...


Cheers,
Dave


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