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FPSC Classic Product Chat / FPS Creator X10 Countdown

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AaronG
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 06:01 Edited at: 25th Apr 2007 01:49
Mods, screw this thread, for FPSCX10 was pushed back 4 weeks... :-(

btw-scroll down for an awesome screenshot

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 06:06
I want it sooooooooo bad. it's gonna be a great software, then someomne can get fps plugins, 3d modellers, etc someone can make a great game with it, but i can't afford it, mainly because it's for VISTA, ugh.... i'm just gonna have to stick with XP for awhile

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
MikeB
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 10:32 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2007 13:06
I'm [mod edit: Please don't post your age] and i'm having trouble just affording the £30 quid X9 FPSC .

I spent most of my money on a laptop for christmas, but as you can't upgrade the graphics card... i'll need to wait for a new PC for X10.

And by my reckoning it's

4 DAYS

now.


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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 10:58
Don't post your age sonny

jonathan samson
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 11:56 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2007 11:58
yes not long till it comes out i already got a new computer just for it but it cost me over $6,500 and i got windows vista ultimate already really fast computer but...

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MikeB
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 13:31
whoops sorry


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Jeremiah
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 15:50 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2007 15:58
What are the specs of that thing?
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Quote: "but as you can't upgrade the graphics card... i'll need to wait for a new PC for X10."


buy an external video card.



Click on the picture to order your copy today!
AaronG
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 19:46
no computer costs 6,500 dollars, and if it did, you got your butt ripped off.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 21:13
Uhm,Aaron...Ever looked at Alienware?

Yoi think your smart everywhere,you think your smart in hacking,about computer prices and whatever.there will be a few PC's ATLEAST wich have a pricetag of 6,500 USD.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 21:43
woo!! its gonna be out for my birthday!! anyway, awesome cant wait, imust also get a new video card so i can actually use it tho.


version 1.0.1 now available!
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 22:26
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 22:29
that sounds cool

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
MikeB
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 22:56
@ Silent Thunder
If there is an external 8800 graphics card i'd be surprised.... but if there is...... I'M SAVED.

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AaronG
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 22:57
dude, all I'm saying is that Alienware just reskins windows, and adds a buncha extra not needed software.

If you custom build yours, its dirt cheap. And I'm talking $1000 tops. I've built my own from scratch, and it's a beast.

8800 640mb GTS
Vista Home Premium
500gb HD
4 GB RAM

Cost me $800.

MikeB
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 22:59
@AaronG
What's the processor like?

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AaronG
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 23:01
Dual Core.

Silvester
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 23:04
I build mine myself and it was only 600,it was good for the time...Yet its rather outdated now.

ED,good question,What motherboard does it have too?Sound card?Cooling system?

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 23:15
Motherboard-Evga Nvidia Nforce 590
Sound Card- Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 (24-bit)
Cooling System- Thermaltake Liquid Cooling System (Choice color green )

Enjoy.

Now, why do you people care?

MikeB
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 23:35
AaronG

We care because we hope you'll share! (Only joking)

I was just wandering... cos $1000 is £500 in Britain.... which is fairly cheap.

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Jeremiah
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2007 23:46 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2007 00:16
My next system will be a

Quad Core 3.4
4 GB DDR2 800 Ram
1 250 GB HD @ 10,000 RPM
1 750 GB HD @ 7,200 RPM
nVidia 8800 GTX
Window Vista Ultimate.
2 19" Lcd Monitors

Priced out now for parts will cost me ~2700.00

I should get some amazing speeds using FPS Creator X-10

I won't have it though until june or july at best. (Good News: Price will be less)
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 00:02 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2007 00:14
BTW, Have you all seen the new 8-core motherboards that Intel coming out with. Whew Doggy

Is X-10 a multithreaded application and are games that are produced capable of recieving a performace boost from these new motherboards and cpu's?
AaronG
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 00:12
oh haha nice.

jonathan samson
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 01:48 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2007 01:51
Prince Of Darkness@
how did you know i was getting alienware! i got the Area 51 7500 and customized it... ow tip don't get the Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme QX6700 unless you are running a server...

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Zdrok
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 01:55
The computer I'm using now cost 2,000 USD.

If I had Vista and all that junk, then I'd be happy for this. I mean, I am, but.....

Useless post.

SamHH
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 03:17
Quote: "Quad Core 3.4
4 GB DDR2 800 Ram
1 250 GB HD @ 10,000 RPM
1 750 GB HD @ 7,200 RPM
nVidia 8800 GTX
Window Vista Ultimate.
2 19" Lcd Monitors"

why only 4 gigs of ram lol, quad cores are waaaaaaaaaaay over priced right now unless you go for sketchy ebay auctions.
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 04:02 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2007 04:02
Quote: "Yoi think your smart everywhere,you think your smart in hacking,about computer prices and whatever.there will be a few PC's ATLEAST wich have a pricetag of 6,500 USD."


I have to agree. You vna go buy any cheap computer that might last you a year for $800. I will tlel you form experience though, there are many super computers, made for game engines as wlel as movie studios that make $6,500 look like low cost computers.

AaronG, buying a cheap computer is nothign to brag about. That is like buying a Emachine and comparing it to a HP. Alienware is exspensive not because it is a skin, however this shows your true knowledge about systems and so is not even worth discussing, expecially if you think you got a hard core system for $900.

As said, it will be outdated in less thne 3 months. Especially with the multithreading.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 04:12
In four - five months they will be cheaper. I may just get a dual core, but I really like performance boost it gives maya.
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 05:00
@ Jeremiah: What version of Maya do you have? I have Maya 8. Dual is the only way to go with Maya. Much better performance.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 05:15
omg.
I said CUSTOM.
Not CHEAP.

With a custom, you can buy the parts, and build it by yourself.
Parts a cheaper than buying a whole prepackaged PC, because the company charges another $300 for profit.

Maybe you guys dont know how to build a custom...?

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 05:51
technically to build a custom computer would be to build the internals also...you can custom assemble a pc. and yes if you know what your doing you can get a dual core laptop for 900$ which means you can get much more out of a desktop for a lot cheaper.as for vista. I have had no use of buying a new video card. my 1 year old x1900xtx 512 is more then a enough for it.
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 06:57 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2007 06:58
Maya 7 I don't have the money to upgrade.

I have priced out the parts for alienware and I swear for half their machines they charge out 900 extra
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 08:07
Yeah it'll be cheaper to build it yourself. But I'm pretty sure with Alienware you're assured of getting a rock-solid machine, they do burn in testing to make sure none of the parts are duds, and good support if anything does go wrong.

But personally I like building myself, it's just fun to me.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2007 18:31
first post edited.

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@ Aaron G. My mistake, my apologies. I did not notice the custom built part. I dont know if everyone has their A+, but I will agree you cna build a custome for cheap. $900 you could build a nice custom to run FPSCX10, but it still would not be top of the line. However, Alienware is one of the top of the line computers you cna buy, because as said they take great care in building some nice computers. Dell even surprised me with their super gaming computers. They have some nice ones. So where do you get your parts? I am always interested in finding new sources for parts etc. However, I will amdit I am not big on building my own computer. I know I am lazy.

K.L. Phair
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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 05:30
newegg.com

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 06:59
Quote: "That is like buying a Emachine and comparing it to a HP. "

I have an Emachines pc.They range in quality from low to about average.
By the time you get to the good Emachines you could probably buy something else for the same price.
With EMachines it's waht's on the inside that counts...RAM,graphics card,etc.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 14:47
first post edited

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 15:56
Talking of alienware i just priced up a computer on there! ITS INSAINE! but it costs : $9,727.00 lol

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Ooooooh i just went back and touched it up a little.

Area-51® ALX System
Estimated Ship Date: 5/29/2007 More info
$10,285.0

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Core 2 Duo hardware is coming down in price, still quite a bit more expensive than AMD hardware, but them's the breaks. With the cheaper DX10 cards coming out, really it's costing less and less to adopt Vista and X10, people should capitalize while they can.

I suggest EBuyer and MicroDirect for UK folks looking for good prices.


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gah, i hate the rip-offs in australia(we are also the in the top 5 most taxed countries in the world). anyone know any usa sites with low prices that export overseas? even with shipping i still save money.

for $1600 AUD (and thats about $1300 USD but in USA u'd probably expect to pay way less on account of parts being so cheap.)
Asus M2N-E AM2 socket
AMD AM2 4200+ (2.2ghz dual core)
X1900GT
1gb ddr2 800 ram (which i later upgraded to 2gb 800)
160 GB HD
not even a soundcard or any special cooling devices, except for the fact that the front of my thermaltake case it pretty much 1 big mesh so theres a lot of airflow.
And those were among the cheapest prices in australia >_<
even when my friend needs a new cymbals (cause he plays drums) he saves $150 from buying from america, shipping taken into account.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 16:44
Quote: "I have an Emachines pc.They range in quality from low to about average.
By the time you get to the good Emachines you could probably buy something else for the same price.
With EMachines it's waht's on the inside that counts...RAM,graphics card,etc."


I ran into the eMachines in 2000. I boguht it because it was on sale and seemed to be as good as any other computer. They are good, but depending on the purpose. When I loaded different programs on it, it eventually burned out. I took it back to Best Buy, they replaced it under my warranty etc. It did it again. Finally a technician at best buy told me that the eMachines are good, but dont handle the stress as wlela sother computers. So since then I have stayed away form the eMachines. I know a lot of businesses that use them and they are good, but that is if you are not going to run it hard core all the time.

I liek Alienware. Its a good system. Personally though, I think Dell makes some good computers and I use a HP Media Center for my everyday computer. I think that if you had like a main, everyday computer to run your regular applications and all, then a eMachine would be good. I think thye make great starter computers for kids, but when you run into the big programs that are really going to run your computer hard, then thats when it wouldnt be good.

I am currently going through a sleection process for my uogrades and ma going to be geting a new laptop and desktop. I have Maya 8 and want something that will run it good, along with my other programs. So I am looking into the Dell XPS series to see which one I owuld want to get and customize it from Dell to make it to my liking. I think any computer would almost do and I looked at Best Buy as wlel, asn they have some good deals if you are wanting to buy a low cost computer to run your games and FPSCX10.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 16:59
The problem with most computer companies that allow you to "custom build" your computer is they give you choices within a range and never disclose much product information. Many are still building 64bit and dual core systems on 180Watt power supplies.

You get to pick between a 80GB and a 250GB HDD, but they dont tell you if it's a Seagate Barracuda or a JinkyJoo HighWhine. You don't know if it's got a gig of Micron based memory or PowMem chips on a Waffle wafer.

Building your own, when able, is always the best way to get quality, name-brand components. Otherwise, a company that discloses it's brands or is known for quality builds is good.

The major household brands, Dell, Gateway, HP, Compaq, etc, are all made in the same factories overseas, and though the build specs may differ slightly, they pretty much all use the same parts. Quality is not about high numbers, it's about manufacturers specifications and how they stand behind their product.

If you are not a system builder with access to wholesale distributors, NewEgg is one of the best sources out there.
Best.

I'm sorry, my answers are limited. You must ask the right question.

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Thnks Xplosys. i will look into that then. As I said, I am jsut lazy when coming to build systems, but I will check that out as it probably will pay off. Thanks.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2007 22:28
thank you for supporting me, xplosys.
figured someone out there most know what Im talkin about.

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Hi, Lee is still busy developing FPSCX10. I think we'll be done in about 4 weeks now and that is a realistic plan.

So sorry to break that news but we are not complete on the development and our over riding priority is to get everything right this time round.

So as not to make your day too sad, take a look at this grab direct from Lee's development PC.

Rick

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Posted: 25th Apr 2007 01:24
Holy [me edit]. That pic looked almost....triple...a...title...quality.....HOW?!

AaronG
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and, why must TGC have all the fun of X10 without us? Release a beta that works for like 10 days

good idea, right?

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Would that monster work with FPS Creator we have now?

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