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Richard Davey
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Posted: 19th May 2003 19:48
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Will be released later on tonight (i.e. at some point before 2am in the morning (GMT)). It's finished and ready for public consumption.

Full details available on the download page.

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what download page/

uk.geocities.com/maniacimagine check it out. ill soon be formally opening it.
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Wahay! Pity about the 2am bit though!

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woohoo!

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Posted: 19th May 2003 22:15
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If it's finished and ready for public consumption. What's the holdup on posting it for DL?

If it's finished and ready, holding it just seems, well, retarded.

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Posted: 19th May 2003 22:19
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Deal with it It'll be released when I release it.

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Posted: 19th May 2003 23:02 Edited at: 19th May 2003 23:02
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"(i.e. at some point before 2am in the morning (GMT))"

By which time I will have just about finished my Art coursework. Sigh. Rob K signing off.

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Posted: 19th May 2003 23:20
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Excellent .

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Hah, that's telling him Rich ... just for that you ought to delay it another hour or two
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lol ill be in bed anyways, so doesnt matter to me

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Posted: 19th May 2003 23:41
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"What's the holdup on posting it for DL?"

Lee hasn't actually coded it yet. At 12:00 midnight, he will rush down to his secret laboratory, full of state of the art PCs, whip out Visual C++ and make all the necessary changes. At 1:00 he will release 4.1, with version 4.2 following at 2:00.

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Posted: 19th May 2003 23:44
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Wow, that'll give us from 1:15 to 1:45 to test then
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ACK! did you fix the lightmap glitch???? You can only have one lightmap at a time for some reason now! I think it's a pointer screwup cuz you don't get an error when you use different light maps, you just see the first light map created. ACK!

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Will there be an IDE update accompanying Patch 4.1? (Probably not I know, was just curious because I've noticed no talks about one).

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No, there wont be a IDE update unfortunately...

I'll wonder who'll be the first to complain that P4.1 has messed up their computer, ate all their food, ran over the cat and ran off with the microwave ?

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@MrTAToad

"I'll wonder who'll be the first to complain that P4.1 has messed up their computer, ate all their food, ran over the cat and ran off with the microwave ?"

LOL.

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:-s LOL

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We'll soon see - it's live. Go grab it.

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sweet! downloading...
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Posted: 20th May 2003 04:04 Edited at: 20th May 2003 04:05
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i can't find the testing code that flew around in this forum, however i loaded a single object and it was much faster. good work

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Now the graphics look more like they do in patch 3, but instead of crashing once in a while my game now crashed more consistantly in about the first 5 seconds...

BERZERKER caused an invalid page fault in
module D3D8.DLL at 0167:0157625b.
Registers:
EAX=004e54a0 CS=0167 EIP=0157625b EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00000001 SS=016f ESP=0064f6c8 EBP=0064f6f4
ECX=004282a0 DS=016f ESI=004e54a8 FS=214f
EDX=01980e7c ES=016f EDI=00428504 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
ff 4e 08 75 16 8b 46 04 85 c0 75 0f 8b 06 8b ce
Stack dump:
004282a0 004282a0 00000000 0040b640 00770e40 004282a0 100055b6 0064f6c8 0064f718 016428d0 ffffffff 0064f724 01567ded 004282a0 004282a0 00000000

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Yay I was the first to complain! Patch 4.1 killed my cat!

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Works just fine

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I'll put my speed and error results up here Rich.

I assume the input anomaly hasn't been fixed...?

I'll look at the readme .

Thankee vm.

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Posted: 20th May 2003 05:19
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Read the readme
Bug reports direct to Lee (not me).

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'Temporary files now deleted when using Quake 2 / Half Life BSPs'

Ohh, excellent, that's gonna make a lot of people happy


I'm not noticing any difference speed or otherwise, but the bug fixes can only be good.

*Nods to Lee, Mike, Rich, Guy*

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Hi Bill...

EXE size increases by 1.2M but no crashes so far.

Can you please add nodebug option for p5.

Thanks...

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4.1 patch very welcomes

Quote: "DLL that converts the text into BMP is being developed. "
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Patch is great...MDL can load and X can load...<br>
but .3DS files crash the program and so do .MD2/3<br>
is it just me?

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Posted: 20th May 2003 11:21 Edited at: 20th May 2003 11:24
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quick question, why doesn't 4.1 update my compiler? it goes into an updater and then says "nothing to update"



someone let me know if this is right, because it has installed some new files but i'm just wondering if i'll be able to use them without the compiler as 1.041

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and i agree with the No-Debug option... it might increase the size of the installer, but i think we should have a choice of which to install - or have it install both and have an option within the IDE which to use.

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It is rather odd...

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Raven, it didn't update any files on the compiler bit for me either.

General query (maybe a problem)...
With patch 4 I had to "load image"(s) as the first thing in a prog before doing anything else otherwise it caused a runtime error 506. With patch 4.1 they just won't load period!
Anyone else found this as a problem?
I'm just using load image "filename.jpg", 1
The path for the file does exist, if I paste it from the prog into explorer, windows previews the image correctly. So what is it complaining about?
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Write a one line program to load the JPG and see if that works...
If it doesn't then E-Mail Lee, if it does then your main code is incorrect.

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Hmm... tried that and it does work.
Then tried commenting out most of the code and it didn't work.
Then removed the project file and re-created and it worked.
Then overwrote the new project file with the old and it continued to work!

Not sure why, may be something to do with exe type being media and compressed but it's working at the moment. Strange!
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A dodgy .DBPro file can cause all sorts of problems - no idea why though...

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No updating at the compiler here either.
Is that how it is suposed to be?

My current project runs well with new patch, maybe a litte bit slower when loading and a little bit faster when running (I prefer it this way, so ok.)
I use kind of large objects (+2000 polycount).
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mine said nothing to update too... how annoying... what do i do?

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No update at the compiler for me either, maybe its for people who dont have patch 4.0 installed?

Oh and Patch 4.1 killed my game... . It just compiles, comes up with a black screen and then dies. No errors so i cant fix it... strange...

I will be really p***ed off if i have to re write the code again... its over 50 pages now...

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Same error here...
[EDIT] my game still works fine though

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i've got an error loading images too...
the solution is to create a project for your source code, however i think the team should look into this.

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Hmm DELETE OBJECT is 3 times as slow in P4.1 with 600 objects (extreme test I know). With very few objects, no difference, with lots of objects loaded, the deletion process is very slow.

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Also, the exes created are 4.06MB (Basic3D, Memblocks, Images), but compress to 1.67MB hmm... *cough*bloatware*cough*

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compress's to 1.7mb - bleck! i though 800kb proggies were bad enough compressed ... we seriously need the retail versions the libraries

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If you read the readme all the way, it says that code that was faster on some machines had to be removed, and it'd be back in command form later on. It only takes a bit of scrolling down...

As for the large .exes.... that kind of bothers me too... and there are indeed very large 'empyty' spaces in them, I think 3 (browsed with my hex editor)... so they compress so small. I don't mind too much . It's not bloatware unless it's on purpose, however... use your terms correctly please...

By the way.... it's compress'.

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Technically it didn't update the compiler, it updated the host of DLLs that go with it, hence why it says what it does. Confusing, but accurate. If you got that message then it did actually work.

Check the timestamps on the DLLs for confirmation.

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What's new in this patch? Is it just a technical fix, or are there commands attached?

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Read the readme.

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Well... looks like this is another patch which I won't be installing then. Still stuck with patch 3.1, as the last patch just messed things up.

Think I'll wait for patch 10 !!!

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Yeah, all my slowdown problems have dissappeared!

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well there are a good few things fixxed
its certainly alot more stable, especially the core commands - but i'm just wondering why the bug that means that you've gotta have a workspace to compile with linked media. (confusing but the only problem i've found so far)

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