Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

Newcomers DBPro Corner / opinions on an RTS

Author
Message
Jeremiah Bigley
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 10th May 2007
Location:
Posted: 11th May 2007 03:22
Link
I am looking into how to make an rts and a friend refered me to DBPro. I am curious how well of an rts can DB make? And is it better to make and rts in 2d or 3d? I understand users here get annoyed with noobs but I am not asking for help, just for answers to some questions.
Back to top
Profile PM
n008
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Apr 2007
Location: Chernarus
Posted: 11th May 2007 04:22
Link
3d is better because of the way most rts camera's move, but 2d's are good too.

Ling creckt tsi nocreckto havela? NASA chetallnar mo lu'ul nasding!
Back to top
Profile PM
Gil Galvanti
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Dec 2004
Location: Texas, United States
Posted: 11th May 2007 04:35
Link
Yeah, I don't think I've ever really played a 2D RTS in the sense of build a civilization, make units, etc. DBP is good for it, but be prepared to spend time learning the language. Anything is possible, but almost nothing is easy.


Back to top
Profile PM Website
TDK
Retired Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 19th Nov 2002
Location: UK
Posted: 11th May 2007 04:35
Link
3D is the best route for an RTS.

2D would be more of a headache for troop selection translations and you've also got the problem of isometric tiling and scrolling which you don't get with 3D.

I'm a big RTS fan and I'm seriously considering starting a C&C type of game of my own as it's the only genre I'm remotely interested in.

TDK_Man

* TDK's Game Programming Forums - Open To All - DB & Team Request Boards *

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Veron
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 22nd Nov 2006
Location:
Posted: 11th May 2007 15:18
Link
Quote: "I am curious how well of an rts can DB make?"


Only a W.I.P but: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=106075&b=8


[center]
Back to top
Profile PM
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 15th May 2007 09:10
Link
Quote: "2D would be more of a headache for troop selection translations "

I thought the opposite.


2D and 3D both have advantages/disadvantages, but in the long run I found 3D to win.

Also, if you haven't already, you might want to check out my rts tutorial. It's not perfect but might answer some other questions.


Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
Developer
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Feb 2006
Location: Sweden
Posted: 16th May 2007 16:32
Link
i recomend that you do it in 3d.
and be prepared to alot of hard work.
i have doddled on and off with my rts project for an long time.
and start up with an decent map editor as i did the reversed and are currently working on my map editor that i regret that i didt do from the first place first.
as iam probably forced to rewrite alot in the game code later on.
cheers

Attachments

Login to view attachments
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Sixty Squares
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere in the world
Posted: 17th May 2007 05:03 Edited at: 17th May 2007 05:03
Link
@Cliff: I've seen that screenshot so many times and now I want to play the game

Back to top
Profile PM Email
Cliff Mellangard 3DEGS
Developer
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Feb 2006
Location: Sweden
Posted: 18th May 2007 04:09
Link
hi sixty.......
i cant call it an game as the game engine dosent let you do so much yet more then selecting alot of units and walk around and plain stuff like that.
iam really bad at keeping up the pace on the work i yust started again working on it after an 8 month of not so much.
its more or less the editor that is the great stuff right now and i will post some runable stuff of them maybe soon but dont expect to much of them.
cheers

Attachments

Login to view attachments
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Kiefer Greenspan
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 11th May 2004
Location: NY
Posted: 18th May 2007 09:15
Link
Hey TDK you like RTS's? Have you ever played AoM?
Back to top
Profile PM
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 18th May 2007 15:37
Link
I played AoM briefly, didn't care for it much. AoE was much better I think.


Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
TDK
Retired Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 19th Nov 2002
Location: UK
Posted: 18th May 2007 16:55 Edited at: 18th May 2007 16:56
Link
Quote: "I played AoM briefly, didn't care for it much. AoE was much better I think."


Have to agree with Phaelax, but I do have both - and a lot more, going back to Megalomania on the Atari St (where the fascination with the RTS genre all began for me).

The only one I've never really liked was Civilization - could never get into that series!

I'm giving C&C3 some hammer at the moment...

TDK_Man

* TDK's Game Programming Forums - Open To All - DB & Team Request Boards *

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 18th May 2007 19:55
Link
First rts I played was C&C or Warcraft, whichever series came first. I played red alert more than any, mostly because my brother always wanted someone to play (and beat). But for 1 player, I prefer AoE2. I'd like to play AoE3 but since I don't run WinXP nor have a 3.0 shader card......


Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Kiefer Greenspan
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 11th May 2004
Location: NY
Posted: 19th May 2007 10:04
Link
AoM has always been my favorite, I actually used to be really good..
AoE was fun but I was so young that I didn't play online.
Back to top
Profile PM
Sixty Squares
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere in the world
Posted: 19th May 2007 14:26
Link
@Cliff: Looking forward to it

Back to top
Profile PM Email
n008
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Apr 2007
Location: Chernarus
Posted: 20th May 2007 04:09
Link
I Looooove AoM and The C&C seris! My favorite C&C game is Zero hour.

Ling creckt tsi nocreckto havela? NASA chetallnar mo lu'ul nasding!
Back to top
Profile PM
n008
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Apr 2007
Location: Chernarus
Posted: 20th May 2007 04:10
Link
Quote: "Yeah, I don't think I've ever really played a 2D RTS in the sense of build a civilization, make units, etc. DBP is good for it, but be prepared to spend time learning the language. Anything is possible, but almost nothing is easy.
"

Dude, AoE, C&C the first few, and a bunch of other RTS's are 2d, they just give a 3-d look.

Ling creckt tsi nocreckto havela? NASA chetallnar mo lu'ul nasding!
Back to top
Profile PM
tha_rami
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 25th Mar 2006
Location: Netherlands
Posted: 23rd May 2007 01:11
Link
Simply put: 2D will give a lot of trouble with isometric perspectives and 3d faking (as in AoE, C&C + Covert Ops, the first Total Wars ect. ect.) while 3D will save you THOSE headaches.

BTW, Fallouts RTS project sounded cool too... What was the name again... You know, the RTS in the desert that was his dissertation project?


Little Bright Dots
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Phaelax
DBPro Master
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 16th Apr 2003
Location: Metropia
Posted: 24th May 2007 04:50
Link
dissertation? Im guessing he was the one who wrote that book if an rts was plausible in DB?

I vaguely remember a desert-based RTS, but that was many years ago.


Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Back to top

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2024-11-25 17:53:44
Your offset time is: 2024-11-25 17:53:44