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Posted: 21st May 2003 06:15 Edited at: 22nd May 2003 15:50
Gone, because there are a few people who can't take a joke lol
Just because it makes referances to homosexuality. To immature maybe, or maybe I was the only one who found it funny (not from the gay jokes necessarily)

On another note, who's seen the Matrix Reloaded? I saw it with a load of friends... and discovered the movie was 99% fighting, amazing special effects and a bit of nipples-tits-and-ass, but only 1% story
I was really appalled by the "to be concluded" ending... but I was again impressed by the matrix revolutions trailer... that came after 15 minutes of credits!

Oh well, it's still better than most movies out there, lol.

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Posted: 21st May 2003 06:44
O_O I liked it... =\ The Matrix was an instant classic... thats all... nothing like it... now The Matrix Reloaded was good for what they promised...

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Posted: 21st May 2003 08:54
Matrix Reloaded had a large plot, the problem is we won't reliese that untill Revolutions. Kinda like how we dicovered the porpose behind Star Wars : Episode 1.

That spoof was a little more than anyoing.

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Posted: 21st May 2003 09:01
lmao... that was so damn stupid lol

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Posted: 21st May 2003 14:35
rotflmao!

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Posted: 21st May 2003 15:55 Edited at: 21st May 2003 16:10
LMAO!

SO true...Anyone knows Keanu's age?

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Posted: 21st May 2003 17:06
he's about 38 isn't he?
that aside you know he doesn't do any interveiws about that dog thing

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Posted: 21st May 2003 19:20
Hmmm, that was quite pathetic.

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Posted: 21st May 2003 19:49
Childish, and pathetic even for that...

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I've never wanted to kill more people with socks filled with pennies in my life. I am ashamed to be a male.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 07:20
You must have met a lot of people who had socks filled with pennies to want to kill them all. I've never even seen one

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 07:47
sickening just plain apalling I have to agree with quoththeRaven just stupid.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 16:03
Why is it stupid?

Because it's making fun of one of your favorite movies/actor?

C'mon it's just for fun...After all Reeves IS gay(yet to be proven he's not) so what's so stupid about it?

Everyone I showed it to thought it was brilliant and no one I know has anything against homosexuals including me(already being part of a racial minority)...

Now the 'time to bomb Saddam' movie...Now that's stupid!

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 16:04
BTW Checkout the whole LG site,especially the 'Sabotage' section it'll kill you.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 17:22
I actually saw an episode of Son Of The Beach called "The Gaytrix" (another spoof of The Matrix), it was gay to say the least.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 18:22
i think it was funny becuase it was so stupid... like those Stickwars movies i posted a few months back

they still crack me up
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Posted: 22nd May 2003 18:24
LMAO!

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 22:04
Quote: "Gone, because there are a few people who can't take a joke lol
Just because it makes referances to homosexuality. To immature maybe, or maybe I was the only one who found it funny (not from the gay jokes necessarily)"


I just didn't find it funny at all, not because of the references to homosexuality. But thats just what I think.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 23:48
I'm not nameing any names because the whole immaturity thing is an assumption on my part. I found it funny from the slapstick humour and sheer stupidity of it all. IE- how agent smith copy's himself. If you think it's appalling (or whatever) from the gay referances, you either can't take a joke or are yourself homosexual, or some other reason. It's a simple matter to look past those referances, and if you still can't stand it then you should take a hint from the TITLE AND NOT WATCH IT!!!!

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 23:49 Edited at: 22nd May 2003 23:51
http://www.Liquidgeneration.com

PS:Not a link to the video,the whole site deserves to be seen.

BTW:What the frag is going on anyways,there was no vulgarities in this clip.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 23:52 Edited at: 22nd May 2003 23:52
Raps:Me and my girlfriend laughed our asses out...The rest can try to get that potato out of where it is.

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Posted: 22nd May 2003 23:53
lol ty actarus, I was worried there was something wrong with me lol.
The whole duck thing is hilarious

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 03:35
SplinterCell - Special Edition (700kb)

StickWars Episode2 (Dave's Edit) (3.8mb)

Dieing in Style (Not Sure mb)

watch them... or i'll make you eat Kentucy.. Fried.. Chicken!

just thought i'd share them
that aside, just back from Matrix : Reloaded ... all i can say is it is awesome and i MUST see it again. remember getting told by alot of people that the beginning made no sense, but yesterday i watched the Matrix (albeit with breaks) then i slipped in my Animatrix DvD my bro has - gotta say anyone who wants the Xeon section to make total sense and not just seem like boring drivel watch both of them as there are refferences ladened throughout.

and its awesome how Agent Smith seems to now have a personal vendetta against Neo (personally thought he was deleted from the first movie )

the end holds alot of promise too, i mean alot of people have bitched about the longwinded over explaination at the end - but somehow i feel that people have forgotten that Reloaded and Revolutions are back2back films unlike the Matrix which they weren't sure would take off. So i'm jazzed and can't wait until autumn

one point i would want to make, Neo & Trinity ... i mean its obvious they got their grove on, but anyone else thing that bit was just a little bit of a time filler?

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 03:51 Edited at: 23rd May 2003 03:57
roflmao@splintercell

haven't seen the matrix:reoladed yet but anyone who has seen it (or hasn't but want to spoil it 4 urself) and doesn't understand it here a very detailed explanation at this site (don't shoot the messenger, i haven't read it myself ):

http://www.tekbc.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4814&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

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Time filler? I don't think so... yes, the scene was long, but the action scenes were 3x longer (I swear that car chase went on for 30 minutes). I have a feeling if they had wanted a time filler, it'd have been yet another action sequence. They were expensive, but this is Matrix's sequel-- money isn't really an object, is it?

I personally don't understand why they didn't fit both Reloaded and Revolutions into a single movie-- they've said they are really one big movie many times, and if that's so, why not just tune the scene length down a bit? It'd fit perfectly.

Or, even better, they could have added more character interaction-- there was, what, fifteen minutes of Zion and its inhabitants? I was a bit dissapointed by that.

Oh, one more thing... I kind of wish they hadn't latched the movie on to the 'Animatrix' and the game so much. It's really not fair for the non-gamer fans of the movie, or people who don't find out about/get the oppurtunity to see the Animatrix.

All said and done, I still enjoyed the movie... they pulled it off considerably better than, say, MiB 2 did.

X2 is still the best all-around action flick I've ever seen, but I doubt the Burly Brawl will ever be beaten for a instant-watch action sequence.

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 05:27
hexgear, that's an interesting 'guide'.

I personally don't like going in too deep, not being a Christian (the movie obviously has loads of Christian tie-ins), but a couple aspects interested me.

Funny he thought that the vampire thing was subtle, I thought it was rather blatent. Then again, I tend to pick up visual clues quite well... the mythological names were also easy... still, that guy had lots of interesting notes of things I never even thought about thinking about. Good link .

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 06:27
Heh heh heh, that dieing in style thing is great

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 09:37
I thought the duck thing was kinda funny... cuz I was joking to my gf about me wanting to see duck-porn after a search from kazaa revealed rather distasteful beastiality titles... and no...i was not looking for beastiality clips...or even pornography for that matter

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Posted: 23rd May 2003 15:56
lol kazaa can do that to you :-s

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oh yeah Dieing in Style cracked me up, i've seen another one he's working on right now called "Nails" which i can't wait to see finished.

that aside, the scene just had bugger all to do with the movie really Mouse - i mean it was obvious they were going to get down and dirty, no need to bloody show it ... if i wanted to see that i'd watch Playboy

the action scenes did go on a little bit at some points and yes the carchase was 22mins long. Personally i think they could've cut some of the actions sequences down and then not make the neding seem so rushed - because they do alot of things and then poof ... the ending seems to be hurried along.
However if they had added it with Revolutions then we'd of had very little of everything becuase Revolutions edited is about 3hrs.

and i think the Xion start actually sets the movie up, although to really get it you have to watch Animatrix - it is still very story constructive.

Remember that you don't have to watch Matrix, Animatrix or play Enter the Matrix - however if you want to know the ENTIRE story ... you have to

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Argh... oh, okay... at least the Animatrix is free...

I think I'll wait to see Revolutions first. I'm sure there are tie-ins there and it'll be nice to have all the revelations happen at once.

And yes, it was obvious-- but what wasn't? From the moment the movie begins and you see the dream sequence, it's obvious that:

1- Action sequences
2- Action sequences
3- Xion
4- Action sequences
5- Action sequences
6- Trinity dies
7- Neo saves the day

And we all walk off having seen an above average action flick contemplating on why the Architect misused so many of his big words.

As far as I'm concerned, the the entire movie was totally predictable from the very start. Perhaps Rev. will be different, I don't know. It'd be better if they let less screenshots from the movie leak out.

Of course, I think they could have chopped the scene down to, say, 3 minutes, and added a couple more shots of Morpheus inbetween. Poor guy... the only film he gets in Xion is saying that he's right, when he turns out to be wrong, and then delivering one of the worst scripted speeches in movie history (which also turned out to be false). Ouch.

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Personally (back on topic), I though the Gaytix was weak becuase it relied on a bunch of old gay joke that weren't even weren't even that good. The thing about the Duck that really bugged me was not he was gay, but the fact that he was OUTRAGEUSLY gay, super gay if you will. I got nothing against a person's sexual identity, but I can't stand that much enthusisim.

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lmao... i think super gays are funny - i have a mate who is so bloody camp boy scouts use him in the summer, whats even funnier is he isn't even slightly gay ... but is is camp as hell.

you don't have to be gay to be camp at all its just amusing, i mean especially when you hear from a straight mate "oh god, you're not wearing that are you? look it clashes with my pants!"
lol lowest common demoninator perhaps, but still amusing.

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BTW

@Arrow:Ever seen an episode of the 'Ambiguously gay Duo'?

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I agree with mouse, the movie plot was weak... and the whole Cause and Effect thing was funny but POINTLESS!!!

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well some of us liked it, some of us don't ... personally i think the movie was aimed more towards the special effects movies goers who just wanna see alot of cool things.
As i've said to a few other people there is a story there, and very strong story - it is just overshadowed by the special effects - most people are too busy looking at those special effects to take note of what is actually going on.
But then again i could say the same about Star Wars... there is a good story there which ties in with each of the other movies and is really a movie that you get the most out of when you see the other movies and will make total sense when the third finally arrives - people seems to think that Triologees should be 3 seperate movies, i mean take a look at LOTR how many people were like "Oh, is that it?" even after a 3hrs sitting there - they still didn't understand that it was ment as a triology and not ment really as a stand-alone film.

It's even worse when you see the matrix because they never knew the story would be so big, so people expect just another installment which doesn't rely heavily on any reference because thats what the first film was like ... or they've only heard of the first film but never watched it and only have a fleeting understanding of the plot.

the battle in 3 is fought mostly outside of the Matrix, rather than inside like happened in 2 - and actually the whole point in 2 is setup the story for 3.
It is the end of the story, and the matrix itself is destroyed (this isn't to say that the Machine are!) ... there are alot of references albeit abscure, to Skynet (i'm sure some know what that is ) and something called "the Singularity" which is actually the purpose which drives the Matrix - there are even some offset references to Gia hehee because thats what the machines see Ai as.

You also notice how almost none of the enemies within Reloaded were actually doing Matrices work - infact most were suppose to be deleted programs, the twins for example. Although they were backed up for an emergency, they're not under the control of the Matrix.
Like Agent Smith, his vendetta against Neo actually makes him an enemy of the Matrix itself (which i hope they will elaborate on in the 3rd movie)

if you watch Niobi - she actually has alot more information than you'd think, especially if you play the game which runs along side the film ... you get to understand whats going on better.

i hope that alot of film goers won't be disappointed by the film but come to realise that it is a Saga of a story designed to reach everyone about the fact that humans will always strive to be free from oppression.
the whole story really is just about acceptance and showing that the real oppression were put through is when were don't even realise we are having it done in the first place, and it takes only a few brave souls to push back at those to finally cast away the shackles and be free.
if you wish to think about it in more modern day circumstances, think back to the Slavery when the British took the Africans to america and gave them jobs and pretended to treat them equal - although they knew they were in bondage when you are treated almost as an equal it seems that perhaps you're not a prisoner... and in the end it is all just about acceptance and putting aside our own petty differences and arrogance as a species to actually fight for our very survival.

just my own lil interpretation on the Matrix, to me it just seems like that but put in more modern circumstances in a future that has a possibility of actually happening ... the dream of wonderland where no one will accept you but you want to live your life all the same.

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@actarus: Yeah it pretty funny, why?

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actually...even though everyone says the movie takes place in the future...it may actually be taking place...right...now...

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lol would be ultimate deniability wouldn't it...
anyone thinks they see strange things and starts to believe we're trapped in the Matrix and the machines could just blame it on the movies

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I'm sure people already have.

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Three court cases already where people have said it was because they were in the Matrix. The lawyers of two of them convinced them to plead insanity.

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Posted: 26th May 2003 01:47 Edited at: 26th May 2003 01:49
but could they prove their in the matrix?
i mean without the proof you are just an insane idiot arn't ya

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you can see it now...

plantiff - "i only blew up that american embassy with a helicopter because i'm trapped in the Matrix and i'm just trying to fight the war."
laywer - "erm. oki Mr. Anderson we'll call that plan B shall we, hmm."

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Well, if we were in the Matrix, making a movie about it would be one of the Machine's best ideas. Who's gonna beleive it now that it on the sliver screen?

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Needless to say the party broke up. I can say the yes I liked the movie, liked it. Not impressed by it though.

@raven [I like the fact that your posts show you take no crap] that said what frigg'en FX shots did they wow anybody with. Well maybe a few people did not see it on the big screen the first time. Maybe they did not rent the DVD. Ok those people who have not seen the whole slow motion people in a kung-fu-theater-wire-harness thing were impressed. Like I said I liked it but was not impressed. As for story a big, story though it is no LOTR. Which thank the lord [no pun there] did not end in "to be continued". But that would, in its own right, be more than three movies if done right. Personally I thought the whole "werewolves, vampires and ghosts" thing was a lame intro for the twins. "Did you ever see some one who kept silver bullets in their gun?"

There were just too many new sub plots going on. Who is the fortune teller? How about this big mobster type program, which, seems to go untouched abut the singularity and the architect (SP).

As for the fx shots, com'on they filmed down under. They could have had the weta boys Photoshop neo's and agents smith's faces onto the model during the fight scene, actually anybody on this page could have done that. That part just killed me, no wait the part that killed it was when they were out of the matrix and noe gives the EMP blast.

Your parallel about slavery I do agree is spot on. The game is pretty good though, I do give it props, but they should not use paid for third party media for gap filler in their story line.

Like I said I liked it as a movie, but not impressed.

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you can't compare Matrix to Lord of the Rings... infact Lord of the Rings is actually a Book and the script isn't being played out as an adaptation, if you read the book you'd see it happen almost word for word. It was the promise to keep the movies as true to JRR Tolken novel as you can within the visual film medium.

that aside though, no not as many scenes within the Matrix:Reloaded were done to protect the continuity between CG and Reality, however as i've mentioned before can you tell me when they actually changed? Because after the first few things with it - i started to look closer at what was going on rather than at the action sequences themselves, and on a 60ft screen you can see as much detail as sitting a foot away from an HDTV ... and i don't think i could tell you when they were blending the scenes, just when it was 100% obvious there were and weren't using it.
So i have an idea that actually like the first one they've made the effects specifically NOT to look real.

there are still a good few sections where if i didn't know better i'd of been fooled by how they've done it, and i'd be surprised is anyone here actually noticed them too - i know alot of people talk a big talk about being able to really tell the difference, but i was in the cinema next-to someone who also thought he knew the difference and what i saw was he could only tell the difference when they wanted it to seen.

i think everyone has been getting too wrapped up into thinking about the effects, and trying to see hwo good the effects are - that well you've ALL miss the entire story and next time you see it you'll already know the effects so you'll sit there and see say the Oracle scene and think "What? She said that?? but that would mean?..." and those cogs will start turning a mile a minute.
and yeah there are so many subplots, but they're all part of the same big plot and following them all would be bloody hard to do but that is how deep the story really is in the film.

Although the effects are in there to pull in the masses, if you left the cinema confused as hell then you only went in to see the effects and it is as simple as that.

what you have to remember is the difference between when they're in the Matrix and when they're out. This time around they wanted to really show the differences in the worlds, they also wanted to show a depth of plot. What most people have gone in and gone "christ thats just weird..." £50 says what they've just missed is a plot point.

be impressed or not, quite frankly it is getting tiring trying to explain the points about the movie, especially without giving anything away to those who haven't already seen it - because i think that has spoilt it alot too... its like if you didn't know about the car scene (like myself) i'm sure thats why i thought it was bloody impressive, because i knew about none of the special effects used.
I hate it when people give away plots and sequences especially the best bits of a movie. yet most of ya'll have been enthrawled watching CNN or something to find out all about it - and then wonder why your disappointed...

its because the channels make out like it is ALL about the special effects, tell you or even show you the best parts of the film then you go in looking for those effects and when you see then you think. "oh well that wasn't as impressive as i'd though"

its just a dead point really but you'd think after so many years people would've learnt, that said alot of people weren't impressed at the StarWars movies either ... personally i thought they were both pretty good too, way i see it your watching a movie no really there to find continuity error, or try to tell if something is real or not.
even the most perceiving eyes in the CG business won't be able to tell the difference when he is too engrossed in the story to give a damn about effects.

a good example in SW would be the Driod Factory, real and unreal ... unless your paying attention you won't notice, and the fact they're both trying to get out with thier lives draws your attention away, and so the entire scene looks pretty convincing.
although no doubt some nerd will come up and go "well actually i could tell the difference in all of the areas in that film too."

all i have to say to people like that is get a bloody life, you pay £6 or $10 just to see a movie, just to sit there and see how much you can see that is wrong with it?
i mean FGS what the hell do you do on your offdays poke dogs to see if they'll bite you?

when i pay money to see a film i'm there to enjoy myself and watch a story unfold - i'm not there to see if i can see a landrover in the background of middle earth, or try to see if in one scene harrison ford is turning a cog left but in the other he's turning it right... quite frankly i don't give a flying sod, as long as it is consistant enough (SPIDERMAN director/producer should listen up) then i'll just watch it for the movie it is rather than what o've been told it should be.

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Posted: 26th May 2003 16:02
Raven, your damn right.

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Posted: 26th May 2003 16:43
"no wait the part that killed it was when they were out of the matrix and noe gives the EMP blast"

Neo's The One, there's no scene in either of the movies where it says he's only The One within The Matrix so the fact that he can do an EMP blast makes perfect sence.

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I think the reason he did a EMP blast out side the matrix is to make you wonder if they're still in the matrix, they could be many different levels of the matrix.

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Posted: 26th May 2003 23:50
hehee (^_^) interesting point nes'pas

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