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FPS Creator X10 / Ragdoll X10 demo

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RickV
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Hi all,

We're still very busy developing X10, I did find time to create a small demo to show off the engine and the wonderful ragdoll system.



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=osF0DqJ68VM

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 17:33 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 17:35
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awesome work

i like how you changed it to a pool of blood at the end

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The system will allow you to change the water colour using an FPI!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 17:52
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Soap box version:

http://soapbox.msn.com/video.aspx?vid=ef217d41-6753-4f90-800e-86cf35b9dca7

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 17:55
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Thanks Rick! Watching Now!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 18:05
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Nice, One thing I didnt see in the video,

Once they stop moving do they freeze, Or if I threw a grenade under them would they still do flying?

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 20:01 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 20:13
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Awesome! Though they still fall in the same way, it's much more acceptable, I would say that ragdoll is ready! Now how about fixing that air system so prevent people from "bobbing"

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Quote: "Once they stop moving do they freeze, Or if I threw a grenade under them would they still do flying?"

I heard they are either baked into the scene or they disappear.

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But if you notice they react depending what side you shoot them from,whether they fall over a ledge,etc.

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Quote: "whether they fall over a ledge"

Yeah that was awesome when that guy fell off of the pillar.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 00:12 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 00:14
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Perfect, just how it should be, nice job. I must admit, ragdolls and all, my personal perference has to be the water and shader effects like bloom etc. it just gives it that polished feel to it

One question rick, could you show either a vid, image or post even of how the water is created?

Thanks


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Quote: "One question rick, could you show either a vid, image or post even of how the water is created? "

I heard it's default in the level.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 13:36
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Thats not a good method though, and where did you hear that?


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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 16:40
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yeah i wouldn't want all my levels to have water
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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 16:52 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 16:54
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Quote: "yeah i wouldn't want all my levels to have water "


You don't have to. The water height can be adjusted by a slider, I think Rick showed how it works in a previous newsletter video. I like to think of the water height as "sea level". If you don't want water for the level, just put the slider at zero.


Even better news from one of Rick's previous posts:

Quote: "Also, Lee plans to make the water work where ever you want it. So you can make swimming pool areas and not be limited to just one water plain.
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It's default in the level, but you can change it to not have water.

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Quote: "It's default in the level, but you can change it to not have water."


I don't think it would be default, the map editor is always blank to start with

@Bond

Thanks for that, must of missed it


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Yeah,you don't have to have the water. Plus,if you think that it is a bad method,well,oblivion and morrowind use this method for water. I think oblivion has more options for water though,but it still uses this method.

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Posted: 14th Jul 2007 21:36 Edited at: 14th Jul 2007 21:37
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Bond has already shown ricks quote but yeah, thats oblivion your on about, its full of hills as far as i know, can you honestly tell me that you want water in a room, and then when you look out of the room you can still see the water plain, even in mid air?


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Sweet! I think these are perfect ragdoll physics and if they are not change I will be very happy. Can't wait for the allies video
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vorconan - haha,good point.

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Huge improvement from the last video, this is awsome. I love ragdolls!
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Awesome video, Rick, it's showing true potential now.

I have a question though, would it be possible for the enemy to have a sequence of a death-animation played, say the enemy grabbing for his chest, and then let the ragdoll physics take over? That would be awesome, you could make cool "shoot before dropping dead" type animations like in Quake 2, except with ragdolls.

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Quote: "you could make cool "shoot before dropping dead" type animations like in Quake 2, except with ragdolls. "

Or if you include randomization in the engine, you could have like four or five different death animations and then have the ragdoll take effect....or you could have no death animation at all and have the ragdoll take effect immediatly.

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yeah Q2 had the best death anims. ever That is sorta possible in the current FPSC.
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man this is looking better and better every day one thing that would make it even better would be better ai and mabe having all bullets on collision with a enemy make a blood splatter on a wall or something like that i love the water thoughXD

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Normal FPSC already has blood that appears on a wall (if there is one) behind them
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...and it's getting better ai.

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Quote: "...and it's getting better ai.
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lol. looks awesome how is it done exactly is a added animation set?
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The idea of ragdolls is neat, but that needs some work.

But for a simple engine like FPS creator, that is really good.

Who will die first?
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AMAZING i watched it looks really good i watched all the other ones it looks great cant wait till its finished...

Quick question will it just be an update to ppl who already have the bought version of FPSC or will you have to buy this??...
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OMG i love it
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Quote: "Quick question will it just be an update to ppl who already have the bought version of FPSC or will you have to buy this??..."

This has been discussed many times before, check some threads again.

But FPSC X10 will be a completelly new program, not some sort of update.
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Rick, do you think theres any chance some time in the future FPSC X9 will have ragdolls? Lee was talking about it in some thread a while ago. Maybe in v1.1?

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Since we are on 1.07 now I don't think it will be in 1.01...
However,Rick has said there will be these type of physics in x9 eventually.
My guess is that if x10 is released late November/early December we would get a pretty good update for FPSC x9 sometime in January.
This is just a rough guess and assumes that TGC will release x10 during the holidays.
This is one of the things that I am waiting for in an x9 update.

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Quote: "Since we are on 1.07 now I don't think it will be in 1.01..."


No no, that's not what I meant... look what I wrote: 1.1. Not 1.01, but 1.1. As in, 1.10. Beyond 1.07. If you get what I mean.

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My bad...ancient monitor,ancient eyeballs.
Anyways,the jist of it is that as soon as they get x10 done we can start expecting the x9 update to be out shortly thereafter.
Anyone who hasn't been around for long won't remember how long we had to wait for the first update...and FPSC has come quite a way since then.

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after 1.07 they will probably go for 2.0 there isn't going to be 100 updates
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Quote: "after 1.07 they will probably go for 2.0 there isn't going to be 100 updates"


They have said they will keep updating verson the XP verson.

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