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crispex
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Hi everyone! I have decided to make a book devoted to FPS Creator, anybody want to help? This is NON PROFIT!



UPDATE: Okay, I need someone who could design the FPI Leech website! Contact me or write a post if you can! I also need a co-administrator for the forums! I also need people to start submitting articles towards the book!


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I'll help. I was editor of my high school news paper. I also got a few of my writings published(in magazines).

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Let me guess....

It contains one page that says..."Use the Search button!" LOL
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looks cool, me likey
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Quote: "Let me guess....

It contains one page that says..."Use the Search button!" LOL "


lol, no never, not in this book!


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Ill Help i wana help can i help ill give you a hug if u let me help i like muffins

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Quote: "Ill Help i wana help can i help ill give you a hug if u let me help i like muffins"


I love muffins, YOUR HIRED!


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Muffins for all!

I would help ya but currently I'm going on vacation see you guys in a week or two

peace,

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This guide will be featured on the new site I am making called fpileech.110mb.com! It is a complete site devoted to scripts, and guides, and more FPS content!


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Maybe some of the pages should be interviews....like we should talk interview some people who have gotten their FPSC games published for tips on level design, story telling, how to deal with publishers, etc.

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Somebody already made one.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2007 20:28 Edited at: 5th Aug 2007 06:17
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EDIT: Forget my offer to help. No acknowledgement. No thanks. No respect. You're on your own.

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Quote: "Somebody already made one."


That one is Hints And Tips, I am making one that has some of the manual, some scripts, and a lot of other goodies!


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DON'T!!! Use a different name cause you will get sued man. I don't think Wiley would like this much

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Quote: "That one is Hints And Tips, I am making one that has some of the manual, some scripts, and a lot of other goodies!"


Have you asked TGC for permission to use stuff from their manual? I have and I suggest you do.

Good Luck


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This is a good idea, I'll help with a bunch of stuff

Is it going to be a PDF and if not what document type ?

Perhaps you could upload an example page so we get an idea of the style / tone / format unless of course you don't mind each chapter having the authors own personal touch.
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Quote: "Have you asked TGC for permission to use stuff from their manual? I have and I suggest you do.

Good Luck"


It will not have the exact words or concept of TGC's manual.



Quote: "This is a good idea, I'll help with a bunch of stuff

Is it going to be a PDF and if not what document type ?

Perhaps you could upload an example page so we get an idea of the style / tone / format unless of course you don't mind each chapter having the authors own personal touch."


I am looking towards a PDF, but I don't really know how to make a PDF, never wrote a PDF before, lol.


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@Thraxas

We know about the hints and tips guide. What FPSC for dummies is attempting to do (I'm not crispex so forgive me if i'm wrong) is fill in the blank spots left over from hints and tips, and basically give all the information a newbie would need to know to make a (mediocre) game in FPSC. I'm guessing there will be more version for more complicated games, etc.
Once again, sry if i am wrong.

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Lol, you pretty much hit the nail right on the head!


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Quote: "Once again, sry if i am wrong."


You're not wrong, the Hints and Tips Guide is for people to get the most out of FPSC once they know a bit about it, it's not a beginners guide so a beginners guide (a more in depth manual basically) would be a real boon. I wish you luck Crispex)


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Hi guys, I REALLY REALLY REALLY need someone who can build the FPI Leech website!


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What is an "FPI Leech website"?


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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 00:30 Edited at: 5th Aug 2007 06:20
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[EDIT: Forget it. You're on your own.

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I found out I have Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Pro, so that'll work!


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GREAT NEWS! The FPI Leech forums are up! You can go here to see them: http://fpileech.110mb.com/forums


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Good idea. I can help with graphics and texturing examples if you want?


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Sure! I need a texture & logo guy!


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Cool cool, just tell me what you want by e-mail and I should be able to get it round my schedule.


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What's your email, I cant click the EMAIL button below your sig because it opens up like 500 email browsers for some reason!


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No offense crispex, but judging by what I've seen from you so far on this forum, you do not have the experience to create a book like this, copyright and Nickydude's guide aside.

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what was that for, man? He's just trying, that's all. No problem here.

@Whoever is running this thread and website

I have experience with website design. I can design it for you if you want. (Imaging, layout, etc.)

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AronG, you are the guy! My email is eriktherandom@gmail.com, or fpileech@gmail.com please, I need you!

Quote: "No offense crispex, but judging by what I've seen from you so far on this forum, you do not have the experience to create a book like this, copyright and Nickydude's guide aside.
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And who the heck decided that you were the cats meow? I've been using FPS creator for over a year now, I didn't say I was writing the full guide, they are going to be articles submitted.


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Just an opinion. Don't need to be all defensive about criticism. Ya' don't make friends that way.

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Well you know what they say, opions are like a**h***, we all have one but most of them stink!


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I guess that you mean that your opinion is the superior, stenchless one? Geez, you're trying real hard to seem experienced, don't you? Too bad you're coming off looking like a real jerk.. Seriously, lose the defensive attitude against everyone, we're not trying to be offend you..
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@Crispex

Just click my profile


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In order to get this thing off the ground so it doesn't end up turning into one of those great ideas that never happens threads.

Why don't you have a serious think about creating a contents page and documenting all the subjects you want to cover in this manual. That way you can upload it and everyone can tell you things you might have missed which you can add for completeness.

Even though this is going to be a noob friendly book, I'd still like to see things like custom character creation and weapons end to end. Just because the subject matter is complex doesn't mean it can't be broken down into managable chunks if carefully explained.

It would be nice to have a real all in one reference rather than getting bits n pieces from all over the place.

A references page to document links for Nickydude's hints & tips and video tutorials such as TGC's latest Youtube offerings, Avenging Eagles modelling / texturing and the biped rigging ones would also be a good idea.

Once you've got a finalised contents page you can start asking for volunteers to select and produce documentation for the subjects they are particularly good at / knowledgable of.

I think you need to actually make a start on this now. People start to lose interest in these things if all they see is people discussing how good it's going to be. You need to actually drive this pro actively if you want people to take it seriously.
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Quote: "In order to get this thing off the ground so it doesn't end up turning into one of those great ideas that never happens threads."


This is where some of the doubt comes into this thread. I don't think anyone here hates you, the idea, or your doing it. It's just that we've seen too many ideas that people take from a picture, a website where you can make a dummies book cover, a logo, etc.... and they have this grand idea to make a mega-super-heka thing from that one item.

Everyone gets the same treatment. If you show a picture you drew of a spaceship and make a thread for your up-and-coming World's Greatest Space Adventure Game, everyone is going to doubt it. If on the other hand you show some work, thought, layout, background, experience, people will tend to believe you. It's not personal. Some people just say it differently than others.

All I see is a picture you made on a Books for Dummies website.

Quote: "I found out I have Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Pro, so that'll work!
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LOL. I don't know if I'd have told that one.

Best.

I'm sorry, my answers are limited. You must ask the right question.

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I didn't have Adobe Acrobat profesisonal, only the free version of Adobe Reader.

I managed to find this handy little application which converts Office documents into PDF format though which might help a few people and it's free.

http://www.download.com/3000-10743_4-10660924.html

Fortunately I have a work provided copy of Dreamweaver 8 for my web development but I'd recommend the following free application for those looking for something similar in the open source domain.

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

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Development is well underway! I have allready started to write it, I ask people to please submit articles!


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lol seth good call
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lol i'm interested how this would turn out, if you actully get anywhere I'll share some secrets I have been hording

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on the cover, it says No Coding Required.....well thats not true. It would be true if you were to make a default setting game i guess, but if u wanna teach people how to make a good game i suggest you include a chapter on the fpi language


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Quote: "on the cover, it says No Coding Required.....well thats not true. It would be true if you were to make a default setting game i guess, but if u wanna teach people how to make a good game i suggest you include a chapter on the fpi language"


Don't worry, I am!


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@glyvin101,

(LOL) Had to be done. My time's too precious, and it ticks me off when someone blows me off. His loss.

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@Crispex

Post a table of content to show what you have done already, I have a few tutorials to add to it. And whenever you're ready, contact me about the texturing and logos.



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First of all Dummies books are copyrighted. And are you sure your ready for a book? I may be a new poster but I have read the forums for a while.

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Quote: "First of all Dummies books are copyrighted. And are you sure your ready for a book? I may be a new poster but I have read the forums for a while.
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Actually millions of people make their own versions of Dummies books, therefore it is not a copyright infingement. As long as I give credit to the people who made the logos and graphics, it is fine.


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