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2D All the way! / HUB tutorial

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Jna99
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Posted: 16th Aug 2007 22:12 Edited at: 17th Aug 2007 00:01
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Hi I'm thinking of creating a HUD for my rts game, what I would like to know is if anyone knows any good tutorial?

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Posted: 16th Aug 2007 22:27
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HUD, dearie, HUD.

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Posted: 16th Aug 2007 23:41
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Quote: "HUD, dearie, HUD."

nice.

anyway do a serch. you'll find somthing. if not i'll explain it to you...
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 00:02
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Guys I'm talking in terms of graphics, of course...

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 16:28
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Umm... Got photoshop? Imagine what you want it to look like, then see if you can put it onto the screen.

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What do you mean?
You can see the HUD in any game you play, so why are you asking us about how to make one?
I could understand if you were asking about programming but the actual graphics are there!

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a couple of things;
1) the perfect HUD is no HUD at all
2) the HUD is there to support the game play not distract from it
4) the more HUD you can get into the actual game the better (ie. the actual avatar of the player gets visibly worse off rather than having a health meter)

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Posted: 19th Aug 2007 17:29 Edited at: 19th Aug 2007 17:30
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I agree with Blinkok, look at EA Sports Fight Night, that has no hud at all and the game is much better for it.
Health bars and the like are just an easy way to display information.
Sometimes you need a HUD, i.e. you can't expect the player to know how many bullets are left in his gun, or can you? I would like to see how much difference this would actually make to a game.

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In photoshop you can draw a simple 1 colour outline of your HUD in light grey, on a new layer, and then click on the right hand side of the layer box to add an effect to that layer. In effects click on 'Bevel and Emboss' and alter the settings until you get a 3Dimensional feel to your HUD (Some of the other Effects are nice as well, like Inner Shadow). Fill all of the holes with the colour that you want to use for transparent in DBPro, or with 0,0,0 for DB Classic.

This link has a tutorial which just about covers everything that you need with a simple Oval interface.
http://www.turbogfx.com/tutorials/metalic_oval_interface/index.php

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Posted: 25th Aug 2007 01:25
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Pincho Paxton this was exactly what I was looking for! Thks

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Quote: "1) the perfect HUD is no HUD at all"


Have to disagree. The perfect HUD is a HUD that complements to the options in the game without distracting from gameplay or being overly complicated. The perfect HUD is straightforward, quick and easy to use , minimalistic and subtle. Not no HUD at all.


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i'm gonna have to disagree right back at you.
1) A HUD is what it's name suggests; "Heads Up Display".
2) The purpose of a HUD is to communicate the state of the game to the player
3) If i can communicate the state of the game to the player without the use of a HUD then what purpose will a HUD serve?

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Well, we'll have to agree that we disagree. I feel a HUD can make things far less complicated (imagine a RTS or spacesim without HUD - Black & White came close, but I didn't feel that worked really well)...


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I agree with you. HUD's are necessary where the information cannot be conveyed by the game it's self.
By saying "Have no HUD at all" i am not suggesting to simply throw out the HUD.
I am suggesting that having no HUD at all should be the objective when you are designing a HUD. ie. If the information can be conveyed clearly to the player "in game" then that information should not appear in the HUD.
An example of this is the player damage effects you see in games these days. The vision begins to turn red, you start to hear the avatar's laboured breath and the action of the player (via the camera) starts to get more irratic. All these "effects" combine to remove the need for a "health" meter for the player.

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Guys I'ld like your opinion about my HUD, It's a 3D rotating menu the little planets are the planets of a solar system, the big one is the selected one (this was made in photoshop , the base was taken from a screen shot from the star wars galaxies game - is only for this scratch menu, it will not be in the final version!)

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not bad even though its only got one item.
Quote: " It's a 3D rotating menu "
WHAT!!!2d,2d2d2d2d,2,d2d2,d2,d2,d2,e,,d,d2,d2,d2d,22d,2d,2d,2d!
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2007 14:26 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2007 14:39
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Dark Dragon it's in 3D! The menu has the following behaver,all the small planets are the planets that exist in a solar system I can use the arrow keys to rotate that menu, the selected planet appears in the bigger picture! please give me all input about this HUD don't be shy lol!

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Quote: "Guys I'ld like your opinion about my HUD, It's a 3D rotating menu the little planets are the planets of a solar system, the big one is the selected one (this was made in photoshop , the base was taken from a screen shot from the star wars galaxies game - is only for this scratch menu, it will not be in the final version!)"


It's a very good HUD. Thumbs up!

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2007 17:33
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oh....in that case good job.
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2007 19:52
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Looks like a convincing and clear HUB. HUD, sorry.


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Posted: 3rd Sep 2007 21:33
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Hi I've been inquiring a few people about another version of my HUD all say this is better what do you think?

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I think I preffered it when it had the hi-tech looking... thingy.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2007 23:58
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Same here. I liked the previous version better.


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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 02:40
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Old version was better.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 12:51
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What advices can you give me, about changes to the interface?

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Quote: "What advices can you give me, about changes to the interface?"


Well.. make a new base that isn't ripped from another game, and make the planets all look different. That's about all you need to do.

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Yep, the first one was the best. In the new one it isn't so clear that your HUD is actually the HUD, it looks like part of the game.
Can we see a demo? It looks really cool

(Can a MOD change the title of this thread to HUD please )

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Quote: "Well.. make a new base that isn't ripped from another game, and make the planets all look different. That's about all you need to do."



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Posted: 5th Sep 2007 21:47 Edited at: 5th Sep 2007 21:48
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Oh right. no demo then
Is the HUD working at least?
This is the worst titled thread ever! It's not a tutorial and what the frig is a "HUB"?
It should at least be "HUD Tutorial? hmm? anyone?"
Why does everything sound more aggressive when it's written down?

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Posted: 5th Sep 2007 23:54 Edited at: 5th Sep 2007 23:55
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OBese87

Quote: "Is the HUD working at least?"

Yes It's working!
Quote: "This is the worst titled thread ever! It's not a tutorial and what the frig is a "HUB"?"

Yes It's HUD but I can't change the threads name, HUB it's a device to connect networks
Quote: "It should at least be "HUD Tutorial? hmm? anyone?" "

I've found this
Quote: "Why does everything sound more aggressive when it's written down"

...can't find an answer for that!

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Posted: 6th Sep 2007 00:04
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cool
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Quote: "Why does everything sound more aggressive when it's written down?"

Presumably because you cannot see/estimate the others emotional or non-verbal expressions...


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Quote: "Presumably because you cannot see/estimate the others emotional or non-verbal expressions"

Exactly, try being sarcastic on here; no one will get it

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Quote: "Exactly, try being sarcastic on here; no one will get it "


What do you mean? Of course they will get it!

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Yeah, when you're sarcastic I totally don't get it. It's like, so unobvious.

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Jna99
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Posted: 7th Sep 2007 19:46
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Guys calm down, I'll try till sunday to post some new UI work!

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Quote: "Guys calm down, I'll try till sunday to post some new UI work!"


Yeah, he didn't get it...

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@jna99 guess you got your holograms working would like to see a demo of that maybe in another thread. I feel that this one will either get locked or just ignored soon.
<edited> and as its 3D maybe a different forum area.

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Nah this thread is safe, just post a demo quickly and it'll be fine

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Huh, it's good here. The HUD is 2D.


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