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FPSC Classic Product Chat / FPSC on Vista (Not a help request)

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Delta Wolf
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Posted: 26th Aug 2007 20:52
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Hi,

I just wanted to post this message regarding Windows Vista and FPSC V1.06.

I have been running it, with administrator rights perfectly under Windows Vista Home Premium. In fact it works better on VIsta that it did on XP.
Under xp, the software would always lockup when reloading maps. But on Vista (32bit by the way, didn't fancy 64bit) it works perfectly.
I have been playing now for about 4 hours, only with stock media though and with some massive levels.
I only have model packs 1 to 6, so I can't say if it work with new packs. Can't see why not though.

My system specs are not special;

Pentium D 3.0ghz
3Gb DDR2 667mhz
Gigabyte MB (Intel chipset)
Nvidia 8600GT 256mb
Vista Home Prem
250gig Seagate SATA2

The reason I am posting this is so that everyone gets an idea of how well FPSC will work with vista and so that I can get the thoughts of others. How else is running Vista?
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Mystic Productions
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Posted: 26th Aug 2007 22:28
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Quote: "How else is running Vista?"


perfectly find better than I did on my old xp comp
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Squelchy Tom
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Posted: 26th Aug 2007 23:22
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lel there is a line between not special and special but depends on if your comparing it to a super pc

"adverage:"
2.66ghz
2gig ram (*standard*motherboards can only ussualy handle 2gig*)
nvidia 8500 or lower (considoring not many people had 88's before they heard about x10)

so i would say they are above normal but not that specs would make it run better on vista :/

soz just thourght you were putting yourself down when you have an above adverage pc :/
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Sopo the tocho
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Quote: "2gig ram (*standard*motherboards can only ussualy handle 2gig*)"


false, its the 32 bits O.S who cant handle more 2gb, I have Vista 64bits and I have 4 gb ram, Im also would like to change those 4x1 gb for 4x2gb so will have 8 gb (64 bits O.S can handle at least 16 GB ram).

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Goodman84
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your lieing for less XP can handle more.

hey
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Delta Wolf
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Posted: 27th Aug 2007 11:29
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Quote: "How else is running Vista? "



Lol, just noticed I wrote that. I meant "Who" :-p

Thanks for your feedback guys.
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FastBurst
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I can tell you right now as a Microsoft MVIP adn Master MSDN Holder, that Windows Vista 32 & 64Bit run FPS Creator alot smoother than when I had them running on XP 32 & 64Bit.


Yes my tower is now a super computer you could say. But When it wasn't it still ran better than XP.

I have 2 towers Identical. 1 Running XP 64bit & 1 running Vista 64bit.

The Vista Box out preforms in FPSCreator EVER time.

Both Towers (XP-64bit & Vista-64bit) have the following:
Pentium D Extreme 965
Dual(2) GeForce 8800 768MB Ultra OC in SLI
8GB 6400 DDR Ram
6 - 750GB SATA2 HHD in Raid
X-Fi Fatal1ty Sound Blaster Sound Cards
Liquid Cooling

My Suggestion Vista-64Bit is the way to go.



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Sopo the tocho
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Posted: 27th Aug 2007 17:00
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Quote: "your lieing for less XP can handle more."


Me? XP 64 bits CAN handle more, XP 32 bits cant, and I say so because I had both and with XP 32 bits I only could use 2 gb, and I know in theory a 32 bits OS can handle up to 4gb ram, but in fact XP 32 bits cant (Vista 32 bits cant either).

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@Sopo the tocho - that's not entirely correct.

XP & Vista 32 Bit , can hold up 4 GBs of Ram assuming your Motherboard supports this. HOWEVER

XP 32bit will only recognize 3GB and use the remaining 1GB over your the rest of your hardware.

Vista 32Bit will recognize 3.5GB and do the same as above.

Which is why most people only install 2GB and not 4GB. Most see it as a waste or Money since you cannot harness the full power.

FYI - you should concider going to 64Bit very soon. Microsoft announced that sometime 2008 that they will no onger be producing 32Bit OS or supporting them to move forward to 64Bit.

That's Bill Gate's for you!



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Posted: 27th Aug 2007 17:14 Edited at: 27th Aug 2007 17:21
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Quote: "XP & Vista 32 Bit , can hold up 4 GBs of Ram assuming your Motherboard supports this. HOWEVER "


My motherboard suport up to 16 gb, even my bios recognize the 4 gb, but XP 32 bit does not however my Vista 64 bits Does.

Quote: "XP 32bit will only recognize 3GB and use the remaining 1GB over your the rest of your hardware. "


Some people told me that to, but in fact my XP pro 32bits only recognized 2gb.
And I knew many people with the same problem.

Quote: "use the remaining 1GB over your the rest of your hardware."

I don't understand this part, how can use something that it doesn't even recognize?

Quote: "FYI - you should concider going to 64Bit very soon. Microsoft announced that sometime 2008 that they will no onger be producing 32Bit OS or supporting them to move forward to 64Bit."


Im already in Vista ultimate 64bits with my 4gb working

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Quote: "Some people told me that to, but in fact my XP pro 32bits only recognized 2gb.
And I knew many people with the same problem."


I have only seen this problem with very old or non-legal version of XP. I used to work for Microsoft, didn't like their rules and the way things were ran. The newsest builds of XP you will be abel to recognize up to 3GB's it also depending on Hardware as well. AS well as Driver issues. I Have seen on some systems where the motherboard does support higher RAM and recognizes by the MB, however the OS build didn't. Service Packs don't make a difference here either due to you will always see the same build number.

I have also sen that same thing and have a newer build of the OS and see everything lkike it should.

So I don't dought what you are experiencing. Some people have had the same issues.

Quote: "Quote: "use the remaining 1GB over your the rest of your hardware."
I don't understand this part, how can use something that it doesn't even recognize? "


Yes this is a common error with the 32bit systems. The remaining Memory is used like a PAGE FILE system. It assigns the remaining RAM to hardware like Video Cards, sound cards, etc. It is very weird and very crazy to see.Microsoft coulnd't figure it out for a long time. And when they did they wouldn't do anything about it. This was one reason why I quit working there. Their lack of wanting to fix Big problems, unless the problems came from Big Business.

To me not being able to use everything like RAM is a big problem. Microsoft didn't see it that way. So their fix was 64Bit.

Yeah it sounds retarded but thats' Microsoft!



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Sopo the tocho
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Quote: "I have only seen this problem with very old or non-legal version of XP."


My PC its not so old, its like 5 months old, I bought Vista later, because I Wanted a 64 bits OS (to use the 4gb) but I didn't found XP 64bits only Vista 64, so I bought it.

I don't know if that XP was nonlegal but it has a stick in the case with the serial however I never tried that serial because I switched to Vista.

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Quote: "My PC its not so old, its like 5 months old, I bought Vista later, because I Wanted a 64 bits OS (to use the 4gb) but I didn't found XP 64bits only Vista 64, so I bought it."


What I meant on old was an old OS Build. Not Old PC. Example the Build 2600 that alot of users had that was originally a Beta version Build that someone hacked and transformed into a production copy.
In either case gladd you have 64Bit, Xp 64bit is hard to find in stores.

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Sopo the tocho
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Posted: 27th Aug 2007 23:21 Edited at: 27th Aug 2007 23:22
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Quote: "What I meant on old was an old OS Build. Not Old PC"


Yeah I can understand you, I only said my PC its new so it should has a fixed and "up to date" version , but it could be nonlegal.

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