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3 Dimensional Chat / I wanna buy a new 3d modeling tool.

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Wolf
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 00:26
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Hi,

I decided to buy a new 3d modeling tool, I started with milkshape, but I don`t like it anymore. So, I m looking for something new. It shall cost between 50 and 100 Euro...

So, what do you guys think is good for me. And sorry for my bad english

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Venge
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 04:27
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It depends. Are you looking for a powerful modeller or one that is easy to use?


*cough*Blender*cough*
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Commander in Chief
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 04:44
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Money isn't everything. Blender is a very good modeler from what I've heard. Has a pretty large learning curve, but worth it in the end.

I hate Blender's GUI...

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hessiess
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 12:46
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use blender. its keyboard controlled so is a hell of a lot faster than most outher programs. i even find 3ds max lacking in tools compaired to blender!

if you get stuck just ask me!

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 13:59
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Quote: "i even find 3ds max lacking in tools compaired to blender!"


HAHAHAHA, I find that funny you obviousally haven't used 3D Max enough, otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

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hessiess
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 15:36
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Quote: "HAHAHAHA, I find that funny you obviousally haven't used 3D Max enough, otherwise you wouldn't be saying that."


ture, i havent used max mutch... becouse i despise it.

> places to much importance in primitives. becouse perfect shapes cannot exist in the real world primitives arnt much use to anybody.

> no mirge at last/ first tool, only weld at centre

> no knife selected edges tool, always cuts everything

> dus not draw back faces in wire mode

> no extrude veracities tool, only polys or edges

> no loop cut tool

> no edge loop select tool

> all the tools are hidden in overly complicated menus. instead of simple hot keys

> interface layout is not verry customisable

>interface uses overlapping windows

> material editor is unesoseraly complicated

> no obvios mirror modaling tool.

> only runs on winblows

those are my main reasons for hating max.

Wolf, try out difarant programs and you decide which one soots you best. you may be interested in wings3d (http://www.wings3d.com) blender(www.blender.org) is the best free tool i know of

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Alucard94
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 16:07
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I agree with most of what hessiess is saying here, and that is exactly why I love maya! It has all of those points and allot ore =P(I am sooo advertising maya xD)

Let's see how many peoples at BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH.... scared you there eh?
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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 16:27
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Funny thing is I despise both 3D Studio Max and Blender, though I say despise, I really just mean dislike using, hence I use a mix of Silo 2 and Cinema 4D - covers all of my needs (except the ones that'll be fixed with Zbrush)

So really apps are down to the users, with the price range given what choice you have to buy a new app is quite slim.

You might be able to buy, Silo 2 (modelling and UVMapping only, no animation, rendering or texturing capabilities - good thing is you have Milkshape for animation), Carrara basics (all in one 3D package, but I don't know how good it is for games) or GameSpace (doesn't render as far as I know))

There are more you can buy - unless of course you catch one of Caligari's 'massive discounts' which are held regularly - you might then be able to pick up TrueSpace 5 for $80 (approx £40)

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RUCCUS
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 16:42
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hessiess, almost all of those things you listed there can be achieved or set within the preferences.

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Venge
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 17:11
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I got Blender because it was free and I didn't have a job at the time...Now I'm used to its interfaces and hotkeys, so any other modelling app seems strange to me.
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5Louiz
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 18:31
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Quote: "here are more you can buy - unless of course you catch one of Caligari's 'massive discounts' which are held regularly - you might then be able to pick up TrueSpace 5 for $80 (approx £40)"


Caligari's tools are extremely easy to use. Excluding Blender, TrueSpace 5 is the best program for the price, in my opinion.

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Oolite
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Posted: 8th Dec 2007 21:48 Edited at: 8th Dec 2007 21:52
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RUCCUS is right, how you can say max is not customizable is beyond me, you can change every single part of the UI and everything you said is wrong, you can extrude from 'veracities' and the material editor is very in depth, (added to that the videopost tool as well). Pretty much all of the tools can be accessed using hotkeys or the customizable rightclick menus. (and other various buttons that bring up those menus). I suggest you explore your downloaded copy of max before you start slagging it off.
Also, XSI is a brilliant, fast, well rounded program and if you can get it as a student/teacher then its damn cheap, the rigging tools are brilliant.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 11th Dec 2007 19:28
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I started out with ANIM8OR--a free, rather primitive app. for learning how to model in 3D.
I have now upgraded to Blender, which is getting easier to use now that I actually took the time to read tutorials and the manual...lol.

You should try and find the one that best suits your needs. Don't ask 'What is the best', but decide for yourself which is the best. Download free trials, download the free software, decide which one you like best, and buy it (or keep it if it's free anyway).
Keep in mind, if you are stuck on something with your new program, there are more than likely support forums for it that you can post on.

Signatures....peh. I never come up with anything good to say in them. Ah well.
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Inspire
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Posted: 11th Dec 2007 23:13
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I love Blender. All other modeling apps are so much different...

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DarkBasic Pro Guy
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Posted: 15th Dec 2007 08:53
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I'm with blender until I find something more powerful for a considerable price (below $100? c'mon if such a thing as blender is free then surely somethin else as good/better couldn't be too expensive)

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QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 17th Dec 2007 01:36
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I think you must be confused, based on the word "buy."
*COUGH*

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John H
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Posted: 19th Dec 2007 10:41 Edited at: 19th Dec 2007 10:42
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Your best bet based on your budget is Silo 3D - Costs about 100 euros...

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Silo 3D is a strictly polygonal model - that is to say, no UV mapping support, animation, or any of that jazz. But when it comes to polygonal modeling, I would say (and my professor agrees) that Silo is far superior to Maya/3DS/Lightwave. When it comes to anything else, I use Maya, but for polygonal modeling, Silo all the way.

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