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3 Dimensional Chat / Low Poly(?) Dragon model

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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 01:50 Edited at: 12th Dec 2007 01:57
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Currently it has 1357 poly's and I have yet to start modelling the head or wings. So far Im quite happy at the result (considering its only my second model).

At the moment I agree that it looks like the beginnings of the Pokemon, Charizard. I plan to change that later. Which reminds me, since this is a non-human model, what would be the specific guideline (number of Poly's) before it becomes high-poly?

Anyway I bet your just dying to see a picture [/sarcasm]

So here it is.

Edit: Could someone change the topic header to put WIP in it? I forgot lol.


Program is Wings3D (as you may tell) and this is my first model that I've done without using a guide of some sort.
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AaronG
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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 02:57
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looks quite alright there. although a bit blocky.

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Venge
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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 03:22
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Take some of the polys out of the tail and neck and put them in the feet, and try to make the shoulder/hip joints without so many tris, they won't look very good once you get a texture on it.


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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 03:38
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@Aaron: Thanks, Im gonna try and smooth it out (not using the tool) at the end when I add details like spikes and stuff.

@venge: I plan to remove those polys at the tail and neck anyway, they're mainly for a guideline at the Rigging stage. As for the shoulder and hip joints, I have no idea how Im gonna achieve that. The triangular polys were the only way I could bring it out from a flat surface (still a newb to it lol). Thanks for the CC
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5867Dude
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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 18:18
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@venge
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Your sig is too high-It needs to be 120 pixels or lower
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Anyway it looks pretty cool Kyle Katarn. The neck looks quite long howver but I ain't a dragon expert!


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Posted: 12th Dec 2007 18:19
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Gah. I know my sig is too big, and I am preparing a new one. Now all the threads I posted on have people saying that

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Modelled, rendered, and composited with Blender. Free software ftw.
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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 13th Dec 2007 14:52 Edited at: 13th Dec 2007 14:54
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Quote: "The neck looks quite long howver but I ain't a dragon expert!"


Haha I think (if I get the gist of it) that I should model the neck of a serpent straight and add the joints at the rigging part (correct me if I'm wrong). So it should lose some of the length when its moving lol.

Anyway, I've done the Dragon's head. I think it looks pretty cool at the moment. (The smoothed pic of it was just to quench my curiosity.)



Wings next.
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Beast E Gargoyle
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It's a pretty decent dragon head. Some minor things to fix give it a tongue, and give it's head some scalie scales to look realistic.

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Venge
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Posted: 14th Dec 2007 01:21
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You might want to fix that weird n-gon on the end of the nose and chin, it's creating some strange subsurf edges (the fan shape thing) that can really distort the surface.
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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 14th Dec 2007 03:07
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Gah! Im such an idiot. Upon closing the program, I accidentally saved the dragon in Smooth version and theres nothing I can do to revert it back to low poly.

I think the best I can do is use Blenders Poly reducer. Otherwise I'll only be able to use the dragon in cutscenes =\

Unless theres another poly reducing program that does a decent job.
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Lol! I feel your pain; Wings (assuming that is what you're using too) is quite annoying like that! However, it does make backup saves quite often so have you tried looking for one in the same directory as the saved file?

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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 14th Dec 2007 14:49
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There's none there ;_;
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TEH_CODERER
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Ah, well then that really sucks! Well I guess you've learned the lesson the hard way like everyone else; never save after you've smoothed the model! At least if you'd realised whilst Wings was open you could have used 'Undo' but yeah, it seems you are stuck now. Sorry mate.

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the only chance you stand at salvaging the modal is manually deleting edge loops, a poly reducer would destroy the currently quite good topology. i dont know if wings has a edge loop delete feature like blender?

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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 05:28
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Well it has an edge loop selector, so it might. If not I'll have to learn how to do it in blender.
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Kyle Katarn
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Posted: 18th Dec 2007 05:30
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Sorry for the double post. But this is a releif. It does allow me to delete edge loops... but there's a heap of them lol.
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Posted: 19th Dec 2007 10:23 Edited at: 19th Dec 2007 10:23
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Mods cant change subject headers

Not bad! Only suggest after a brief glance is that: Notice the points on the deltoid and the hip, where the polygons come to a point - you dont want to have that happen. You'd benefit from going in there and deleting those faces and replacing them with quads, it will look much smoother/nicer, and would also animate better. Even if you dont plan on animating the model, it is always good to get into a habit of modeling animation friendly! Better to get started now, rather than change your habits down the road.

Take a look at the deltoid in this character here, notice how it is made up of quads, making the overall shoulder/arm very smooth - letting it deform well.



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Quote: "Mods cant change subject headers "

I seen one do it before.
But John that image is a good example.

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