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Shadow Robert
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nice... lets see what i can do within a few weeks hehe
be nice to see a RavenOS (^_^) hahaa

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Kanzure
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 06:38 Edited at: 26th Jun 2003 06:39
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I have made my own OS, but I'm currently trying to get the GUI working, which is a pain.

And, I'm one of those "kids" you speak of. Its great fun just messing with ASM and C together. Its amazing what could be done, if...if my GUI worked ^^!

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 13:19
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right now i've got BeOS & BeOS Max so i'm kind a drowned happy bunny.
i'm not entirely sure about the FreeDOS its a little wierd getting used to - there is so much for so little.

(^_^) hehee well i'm sure i'll have something basic working by Christmas ... don't have much free time to put into something like this. Probably would be better to team up with someone else here and work on it once i understand enough, don't wanna just create a DOS clone but not entirely sure what that would be exactly lol

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Shady Simpson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 17:28
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does anyone know of any good books/tutorials/anythings that can teach me how to use windows GUI in C++?

thanx.

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Kanzure
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Yes. But being a n00b and trying to do that is TOUGH. Before I did that type of "stuff", I made 3 basic programming languages, many programs, and also tried making unique games in C++.

THEN I went on to the GUI.

Anyways, check out:

Black Sun Research Facility (i dont have link search on google)

They have *many* *many* tutorials, they are bound to have a GUI one in there.



@Raven - you said you wanted to team up with somebody, eh? ... hehe..*stands up*

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Ian T
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 19:35
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Black Sun Research Facility?

Somebody's HL inspired

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Kanzure
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HL?


eh? omg..is..my..1337 talk out of date? NOOOO!!!

J/k..what does that mean?

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Shady Simpson
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Posted: 26th Jun 2003 23:28 Edited at: 26th Jun 2003 23:31
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yeah I know what you're saying, but I'm just so eager to learn it and have finished the book. but it only tells you the basics of C++ and really need something to advance on.

Any suggestions?

Thanx.

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Complex
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HL - Im assuming Half-Life. I know somebody on GameSpy that had difficulties persuading themselves that their sole purpose in life was not to become a Black-Mesa Scientist

Anyways, for those that got the Bloodshed Dev-C++, what version do you have. I just downloaded the Beta Version (4.9.8.1 I think) but they still have the older version on the site. I just downloaded it because it was the most recent, but I wan't my compiler to be reliable, not some updated program still in testing. Which version did you guys all choose?

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 27th Jun 2003 05:36
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lol ... i'd be happy to team up with you (^_^) but i'm a total newbie to all of this.
It would be good if TAToad could tinker too, i mean he said he kinda wanted to dable with OS's and he's certainly got some good skills.

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Kanzure
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Great. That would be fun. If you can get ahold of me via e-mail or AIM, I'm sure we can exchange ideas / coding I have.

(I'm a n00b too at OS design, but I get far..hehe..Google is the holy godess)

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Shady Simpson
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 14:04
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does no-one know any good books that I can advance with?
I'm really looking to break free from the terribly boring world of the command prompt.

Thanx.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 14:32
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Unfortunately, most of the books available are based around the 'Professional' IDE's and compilers like Visual C++ or C++Builder, so it's not easy to suggest a book that you can use without difficulty.

Here is a good windows tutorial:
http://www.relisoft.com/win32/index.htm - also a free online book available

Here are some windows resource sites:
http://www.codeproject.com
http://www.mooremvp.freeserve.co.uk/Win32/w32main.htm
http://www.codeguru.com

Also, you can pick up stuff from the general gaming resource sites:
http://www.gamedev.net
http://www.flipcode.com

There are loads of other sites out there, but they all tend to link to each other so you should have no difficulty finding them.
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MrTAToad
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 14:58
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I dont really have the time unfortunately - and its something I know nothing about. Besides, I haven't written a PC game yet.

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 16:06
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fair enough ... why not help out with one of FMTau's titles, then you can have a game under ya belt - grab a lil cash in the process then perhaps help us tinker with something that we know almost nothing about either
i'm sure puffy would love some help developing a karma interface (^_^) - and you'd become more of a forum god for it lol

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MrTAToad
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 16:36
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Cant stand working with people - prefer working on my own - things get generally done quicker too...

Good news everyone! I really am THAT good...
http://www.nickk.nildram.co.uk/ for great plug-ins - oh my, yes!
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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 16:42
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suppose ... if you want the Karma 1.3.0 engine to work on you own then i can give you access to it.
i don't like working with others much either, however there is only a finite amount of me to go around knowing that atleast a little work is being done rather than none seems like a good deal to me, and its always good to have someone who is working on exactly the same thing as you so that you can bounce ideas off of.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 17:32 Edited at: 28th Jun 2003 17:32
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And then you find you spend 95% of the time discussing trivial matters (like who has to make the tea)...

Karma engine - is this the one your working on, or the commerical one ?

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 19:00
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Both... i'm working on Shader based version for my Dx9 Game and Puffy is working on a DBPro interface - but we're both using 1.3.0 as the base

they've still not got back to me in like 2 weeks what we're gonna be paying for the license for DBP, i mean the standard deal is $50k per title per format ... well DBP is technically a single title and is technically only for the Windows Format.
but there in lies the problem cause it'll be for a programming language and resold under the same scheme of - you make money from it, then you license it else you can use it free

the manual is as thick as phonebook though so puffy is just doing alot of readin atm lol
if you wanna tinker too i can email you the username & password (as soon as i get sent a newone cause i forgot the old one (again))

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MrTAToad
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No thanks!! Sounds way to complicated...

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Posted: 28th Jun 2003 19:30
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lol we've gotta get you over to the complex side of programming sometime

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MrTAToad
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Doing the SQLite system was complex enough thanks... Hate dealing with triple pointers.

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yes im refering to the bsd unix networking components found in all windows flavours, that eventually became parts of the windows networking environment.

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Yes - If I remember correctly, they mention it a few times in MSDN...

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Shadow Robert
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pitty .Net and the Windows Sockets don't actually use them anymore, they're just there for legacy - i say pitty cause they were more stable and better at handling large data.

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I'm surprised thats the case - I would have though a revamp would have made them better...

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Microsoft don't really know what they're doing when it comes to networking ... it is improving each new OS - but its still a far cry from Novell & Unix

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I have no problems with Unix network code - however, I've always found Novell to be rather dodgy in that department.

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