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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / I'm VERY ANGRY

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Philip
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 08:03
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This morning I spent 2 hours writing code and then I saved it (or thought I had) using "Save project".

Needless to say bugger all was actually saved and so I've just discovered that I've lost 2 hours of work.

AAARRRGGGHHH!!

Thats it. I'm outta here to go and buy the latest Harry Potter.
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flibX0r
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 09:17 Edited at: 21st Jun 2003 09:18
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I've had the same problem

i think its an error in the IDE. There is however a way to get you data back. In the directory where you were working where it would normally save the files to thre are some .bak files. These are just text files of the source code as you were working. Its where DBPro stores the code whilst you are working. Just delete the empty source code files and rename the .bak files to .dba and all is good.

I would like to know if it will be fixed though

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ICERGB
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 12:39 Edited at: 21st Jun 2003 12:46
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Oh to remember those wonderful days...
Power blackouts and stuffying stuffer stuff!!!
"save" "save" "save" and "save" often!
and make sure it actually saved properly!


Oh ya!


I will always save the dba -----And the .dbpro twice---
because of this rumour I've heard of it not saving properly...

the ide is definately semi screwed, but it will work if yee heed my inference here!!!
hehehe
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haggisman
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 12:50
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There is nothing wrong with saving. Pressing the save project button will save the project. The save source button will save the source. The save all button will save everything. Only using the save project button will not save any changes to the source code full stop.

project: light/obscurance mapper (85% done)
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 13:14
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oh yes! been there, done that save all is the way to go, but WHY would anyone WANT to save the project data seperate from the program?, seems a useless option too me, or at least have save all at the top of the list.

Mentor.

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Terabyte
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 13:18
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same happened to me once.
Anyone thik we shoud have the option of an auto save

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ICERGB
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 13:27
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project data; so you can save curent data from the user
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Philip
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 13:38
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Well, I went back and re-wrote the code and so I've cheered up enormously now.

In fact, the program is finished. I am about to post it to this forum in case anybody would like it.

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 16:11
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"Anyone thik we shoud have the option of an auto save"

Technically every time you run the program (and it compiles without error) it auto-saves the source to a back-up file anyway.

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Rich

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pinkvenom
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 17:17
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I think there should be an aoto save option it would be a great hep to all us programmers out there and could even save time.

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pinkvenom
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I think there should be an auto save option it would be a great hep to all us programmers out there and could even save time.

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Terabyte
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 17:33 Edited at: 21st Jun 2003 17:34
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so where is the backup kept

i just said that silly [img] [/img]

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IanM
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 18:47
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Thats not right Rich. The backup file is only made when you save the source (into a .bak file Frobscottle)

When you compile, the source from all your source files is combined into a single file for the compiler to use, but this is deleted after use. This is recoverable if you use something like 'Norton protected recycle bin' but not otherwise.
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Shadow
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 19:47
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Just get into the habit of saving. I'm actually addicted to it. :-s
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Guyon
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I personally do not like auto-save. I have opened up a program may time made changes and saved it as a totally different prog. If auto save one on ti would have messed up my original program.

I thought Save Project would have saved my work. That explains where a few missing files went. LOL
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MrTAToad
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 20:15
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No, you've got to do a Save All
Sometimes when you open a source file it will be blank - so dont save then either...

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 20:15
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Quote: " think there should be an aoto save option it would be a great hep to all us programmers out there "


and autosave option perhaps, definately not as default.
although the current IDE is bug ridden (the more and more complex your program becomes the more you find it seems) ... having an autosave would actually be a bane for most programmers.

I generally compile my code 1 every few mins, and i rely heavily on the fact that i can save at a known working point and also have the temporary files for when you save .bak and when you compile .tmp
this way i have several saves of the same source, yet if i make a mistake i can just close without saving and know that when i reopen it'll be a working version.
if it was automatically saving like a Word Document does then there is a big chance there will be alot of unfinished thoughts within the code meaning i no longer have a working version or a version to bug test - and resaving a project of more than a few files is an annoying task.

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haXor
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 20:25
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I dont think auto save is a good idea, cuz like somtimes i either wont be thinkin about it or dont know what im doin and spend an hour changing stuff around to add a new function or somthin and that changes a lot of code and then its saved like that and u have to spend time changing everything back, which in turn can cause more problems, so u have to edit them, but then they cause problems.....etc....

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IanM
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 21:50
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It sounds like I must be one of the very few here that use a source control system.

I regularly hit 'save all' knowing that I can easily get back to the original source files in seconds.
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David T
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Posted: 21st Jun 2003 21:50
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Quote: "There is nothing wrong with saving. Pressing the save project button will save the project. The save source button will save the source. The save all button will save everything. Only using the save project button will not save any changes to the source code full stop."


I use Save All all the time.

The IDE still has frequently erased by source files (not just a faulty opening - in notepad they are blank). Luckily I found the .bak tip early on. I've reported the bug but I don't know what's being done about it.

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the_winch
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Posted: 22nd Jun 2003 01:03
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I think it was fixed in the later versions of the ide. It hasen't happened to me for a long time, either because it is fixed or I use save all a lot.

They don't appear to want to admit that this was ever a problem.

There are ways of autosaving that won't cause you trouble if you want to go back to how the code was when it was loaded. Doesn't the ms office autosave work like that? It doesn't autosave to the actuall file but to another one.
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Shadow Robert
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Ian last time i checked DBPIDE doesn't have Source Control hehee
i use it all the time but the only IDE i know with it is MSIDE, if GuyS implimented a system like that i'd be a nice welcome ... but considering the current state of the saving and memory management i'm not going to hold my breath for such a feature.

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andrew11
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Posted: 22nd Jun 2003 03:45
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I never do save all in the file menu. I press Shift+Control+S. After a while, it just becomes a habit. I save about 2 or 3 times a minute (I'm very paranoid).

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Raven, I use TortoiseCVS. It's a version of CVS that integrates into explorer. Just right-click, and select commit or update. So easy, even I can do it
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ya know ... i've been meaning to ask this, but what exactly is CVS?
i have a feeling i've just made an idiot out of myself asking it cept i've seen it online all the time CVS databases but i dunno howto get them offline or use them.

i have had a feeling it had something to do with source control for a while, but i've never used anything other than SafeSource within my projects so i dunno what it exports to or even howto really use it besides the VC menus for it (knowing me i'm only use a faction of what something is capable of lol)

i have tired to find out online before, but dunno about you cept everytime i look for someone online i end up with a bunch of useless sites which only include the word i'm looking for but no relivant information

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http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cvs/doc/cvs_toc.html
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