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Dark GDK / New DarkGDK free with VB.NET

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Fernando Castro Garcia
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Hi, i'm wondering if it is posible to use the new DarkGDK downloaded from Microsoft with VC++ 8 Express, with VB.NET and how can i make it work?

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CattleRustler
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Posted: 18th Feb 2008 21:24
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there is a version of dgdk called dgdk.net that is being rereleased in a short while (I have been beta testing it for Apex). It will work just like the original dgdk.net did, except without the auth key stuff, and a few new editions I cant mention. So, in other words, keep watching this forum for the annoucement of the release

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Niels Henriksen
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@CR - but we are watching and watching.... and waiting

When will it be our turn to feel x-mas

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if it will take to long time I need to learn C++
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I'll put it this way, its on the order of "days", not "weeks"...

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monotonic
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Quote: " its on the order of "days", not "weeks"..."


Good..good. I've been scratching my head as to which kit to use for my game, so far I've started it in GDK and DBP. I would love to be able to use .NET and C#, but I want to test the speed of GDK.NET. Would you say that it is faster than DBP?

Quote: "and a few new editions I cant mention"




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kBessa
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I won't mention them either, so... just wait a little bit more!

About being faster... I'm really not sure how faster it would be compared to DBPro, but I can say I could write code faster and it looks cleaner than DarkBasic.
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monotonic
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Quote: "but I can say I could write code faster and it looks cleaner than DarkBasic."



Absolutely, writing code in C# using VS is much nicer than BASIC and I would go as far as to say even C++

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Posted: 19th Feb 2008 16:01 Edited at: 19th Feb 2008 16:02
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Quote: "writing code in C# using VS is much nicer than BASIC "

agreed, as long as you mean Procedural Basic and not VB.NET

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kBessa
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Posted: 19th Feb 2008 16:25
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Quote: "agreed, as long as you mean Procedural Basic and not VB.NET "


Agreed even if he does mean VB.NET... LOL
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Miguel Melo
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Quote: "I'll put it this way, its on the order of "days", not "weeks"..."


... well, if you really look at it there are only a meager 365 "days" in a year.

I have vague plans for World Domination
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Niels Henriksen
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aarrgh.... I cant wait one year...

And I even have to wait for kB to make LE to the new version

Poor me....then the only thing I can do now is to go and make restoring in the kitchen... my wife is planning how it should look like..

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I'm working frantic peeps. Alot's going on over here, so please don't be too unhappy about the wait.

Paul.


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Niels Henriksen
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@APEX - nono... I just cant wait... x-mas has passed for a long time ago. I just want to install it and start coding

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Niels, I know I know I know :S I'll work fast to get something finished asap

Paul.


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jason p sage
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take heed - memblock id's higher than 257 - no go in C++ version.


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Argon Knight
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Will this mean we can now use LINQ against our sprite and 3d object lists?
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Niels Henriksen
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Argon - yes... we can use anything in .NET with GDK.NET.....

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Jeff032
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Will this one install if we have professional instead of express, unlike the C++ version?

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I have VS2008 Pro and the GDK(C++) installed ok for me.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2008 13:08 Edited at: 21st Feb 2008 13:10
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Quote: "Will this mean we can now use LINQ against our sprite and 3d object lists?"

yep, as said above, we can use anything with it. When we were beta testing the first dgdk.net before its release, I made a backgammon game built entirely on small custom classes and .net Generics. It was an eye-opener as to how cool it was to mix .net concepts with db_, and how simple it was to get what would otherwise require a lot of coding, up and running quickly, and behaving perfectly, in neat, clean, modularized, oop code.

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Argon Knight
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I know I could use LINQ with my own custom classes.

I was referring to: Will dgdk.net have a new function that returns a IEnumerable/IList for the sprites and 3d objects(or even images and memblocks), or will we continue to have to use own cutom lists?

I guess in the grander scheme dgdk/dgdk.net doesn't need to since chances are I'll need a custom class to track game specific values anyway.
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Quote: "I was referring to: Will dgdk.net have a new function that returns a IEnumerable/IList for the sprites and 3d objects(or even images and memblocks), or will we continue to have to use own cutom lists?"

not unless it was a true dgdk.net that was recoded from scratch in .net, currently that is not the case. Its a COM Interop wrapper exposing the c++ libs to .net

Quote: "I guess in the grander scheme dgdk/dgdk.net doesn't need to since chances are I'll need a custom class to track game specific values anyway"

correct. I think of it this way... use the db_ commands for almost nothing else except the dx tasks...thats it

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Stupid question, what does this mean for those like me with commercial licenses of DarkGDK.Net? Any licensing issues to use the new version or do we have to pay to upgrade or what?
Thanks
(ps I also have VS2008 Pro working with Dark GDK for those wondering if it is possible)
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jason p sage
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I'll guess - correct me if wrong people - but - YOU GOOD MAN!

TGC does have an honor system! Their Licensing I THINK follows this ideal: You Supported Us - We Stand By You Now - you didn't Support us? PAY US... then we stand By You too!


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Apex, since the GDK.Net is your baby, what is the answer to the question for cost? Thanks
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