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Posted: 5th Mar 2008 15:58 Edited at: 19th Apr 2008 19:10
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Ok, i am know naming this pack...

THE MONSTER PACK

Ok, first off i'm not selling this it will be free. Second, I may never complete it but if I don't then I will release everything that's already made. Third, I won't be taking requests but may ask for ideas everyonce in a while

What will be in this model pack?

There will be a list here stating what will be in the model pack and I will update it acordingly. There will now be five stages. Idea, Sketch, Mesh, Uv'ed and Textured.

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Cyclops(Finished)
Raptor + Ape Cross(Idea)
Giant Lizard(Sketch)
Dragon(Idea)

Weapons:

Mace(Finished)
Battle Hammer(Finshed)
Club(Finished)

Don't worry if its a short list it will get longer

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Posted: 5th Mar 2008 16:18
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Looks kinda flat... Other than that it looks good

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Posted: 5th Mar 2008 17:02 Edited at: 5th Mar 2008 19:00
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I fixed it, I think.


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Posted: 6th Mar 2008 21:54 Edited at: 6th Mar 2008 21:58
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The Cyclops is finished!



I am going to update the first post now. BTW I have 91 views and only 1 comment can somone please comment I also added some monsters to the list.


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Posted: 6th Mar 2008 22:12
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...interesting.


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That could be good or bad, lol


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Posted: 6th Mar 2008 22:42 Edited at: 6th Mar 2008 22:48
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Some positive criticism. The feet shouldn't be that flat! He looks like he is the creature from the Black Lagoon. So please thicken them. Second the legs could use alittle more detail. Third he should have a better looking torso it looks kindof bland. Try a scar or something on his torso area. His hands actually look good, and could probably be rigged to hold something. The head needs a completly new mouth, from my viewing of the picture it looks like he has a little kid scary teeth thingy(for his mouth) that you can buy at walmart in a 25cent machine. His eye's look decent. I wish he could smell, hint, hint. Hope this helps and reference cyclops pic attached. All the best,
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Posted: 6th Mar 2008 23:12 Edited at: 6th Mar 2008 23:15
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Thanks i'll try to change it so it looks more like the reference.

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Just noticed you said his Eye's look decent, he's only got one

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The Mace is done!



I'm wondering if anyone has any good ideas for weapons for these guys?


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Does this look better?




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Posted: 7th Mar 2008 01:23
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Quote: "I'm wondering if anyone has any good ideas for weapons for these guys?"


As far as RPG weapons go, axes are good, as well as swords, clubs, crossbows, and stalves.

Your mace looks good, although the wood texture could use a bit of work. The cyclops is good as well, but consider a little more texture shading to give the idea of a muscular chest, arms, legs, etc.
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Responding to the cyclops. Yea!, the feet look way better now. Awesome he can now smell manflesh. Responding to the mace a better wood texture and it's ready to be a low poly mace!
Quote: "I'm wondering if anyone has any good ideas for weapons for these guys?"

We'll give the cyclops a giant club and he will be already to fight. All the best,
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Posted: 7th Mar 2008 01:34
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Quote: "As far as RPG weapons go, axes are good, as well as swords, clubs, crossbows, and stalves. "


Well these are big monsters so I was thinking more along the lines of clunky weapons, but a Club is a good idea, infact i'm going to add that to the list right now

Quote: "Your mace looks good"


Thanks, what do you think needs to be better about the wood. It might just be the angle of the screenshot.

Quote: "The cyclops is good as well, but consider a little more texture shading to give the idea of a muscular chest, arms, legs, etc. "


Thanks again, I'll try to add some shading to the muscles and see how it looks.


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Posted: 7th Mar 2008 04:51 Edited at: 9th Mar 2008 17:32
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The texture could use a lot of work. Dirty him up, add some grunge to his feet and in the creeses of where his skin bends (elbows, arm pits, neck, crotch). Add some wrinkles, some alpha mapped plains sticking out with a fur texture on them to bring his furryness to life (it makes a huge difference). His eye especially, it looks like its just a white circle with a black circle inside, add some shinyness to it, detail on the pupil (Id also make the pupil and the eyeball bigger, when I think cyclops I think one huge eyeball). Add some wrinkles in the corners of his eye...

His horns should have some of his fur leading up to them at the bottom so they dont look so pronounced.

I did this REALLY quick draw over of what Id imagine him to look like

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But thats just me, the model is still good, and this might not be what you're aiming for. Either way just thought Id post what Id recommend. (enlarged the feet as well btw).

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Hey, thanks for taking the time man. Not all the changes are what i'm look for but i'm defenitly going to change some of those things to look more like that.

Thanks again

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Don't know how I missed your last post but thanks for the comments. Sense two people commented about that wood texture on the mace I guess i'll change it

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Well I tried to add some muscle shading and to tell you the truth it looks horible. It's eather because this model dosn't look good with muscles or i'm no good at texturing and it can't be the latter


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Just wanted to let anyone who cares about this(Nobody?) that I plan on doing this I just don't have access to the files at the moment.


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@DB PROgrammer- I care about your pack. I will take it free, but if you finish the cyclop's and dragon and Giant Lizard i'll buy it for $2(no offense on the cash, but i never have any) because your so awesome and need some money to progress your modelling talents. All the best,
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Posted: 27th Mar 2008 08:04
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Quote: "I care about your pack."


Glad somone does

Quote: "I will take it free, but if you finish the cyclop's and dragon and Giant Lizard i'll buy it for $2(no offense on the cash, but i never have any)"


Thanks for the offer, but I'm giving this away free. Maybe when I can do somthing decent i'll start charging(or atleast asking)

Quote: "because your so awesome and need some money to progress your modelling talents."


Don't know how I got the status of awesome but thanks

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Well I started making the club, it's about finished but it need somthing still. Any ideas to make it better. Attached.


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We'll I see positive enthusiasm as a motavation to help people out. Otherwise, if people get told they suck all the time they might give up on their dream or something they care about, so i'm always nice here and there will it can be of help. Some criticism for your club, seriously man it's supposed to be a club not a dough roller. Darken the end of it and make it look like a cruel weapon( like it will hurt bad, if hit by it). I hope this helps. All the best,
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Actually the models are pretty good, you just need to work on the textures some more. A little dirt and smudges go a long way at making textures look better. For your club you need to make it a little less uniform in shape. It kind of looks like a bowling pin. Try making it a little longer and narrower. Maybe bend it a little. For the texture find a good looking wood texture online with some knot holes and defects in it and use that. Best of luck to you and keep practicing. Everything you model will just get better and better.

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Thanks Beast E Gargoyle and Spotaru for the comments. I have been away from my computer so I couldn't comment sooner. I will look and see if I can find a better wood texture, I never really could get texturing down


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Wow, I just looked at the texture I had for the club and it's horrid, fresh eyes maybe. Anyway I made a new texture for it and I i'm calling the club done unless some wants somthing added to it.



Now to retexture the mace

Edit: *gets idea* ...Maybe the club isnt done...

Edit2: New club


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Just wanted to let people know that the new mace is done.



Battle Hammer comming up


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Posted: 19th Apr 2008 06:40 Edited at: 19th Apr 2008 07:13
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Battle Hammer Finished.



BTW I still need ideas for weapons.


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idea for the club, make all the spikes different sizes, i dont think i have ever seen a club with all the spikes the same size, also add a few more spikes all going at different directions.


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Thanks for the comment Dan I don't get may of those Here is the new club.



I noticed I was thinking of a battle axe but called it a battle hammer so I am going to make a battle hammer and rename the axe a battle axe. And I still need ideas for weapons.

Edit: I forgot to say that on the club random spikes are missing also.


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Just in case you wanted to know, what your all calling a club is in fact a bludgeon and was genarlly made out of a shaped log with nails in the end. This weapon was mainly used by the lowest class of person (usually someone who wanted to earn the forgivness of there peers) and was usually the only kind of weapon they were allowed to carry.

The fuedal system was so barbaric back then but it kept people in line.

Only reason I mention this is those things that look like spikes should realy look like nails, with a few bent ones to boot.

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i still think the club looks to neat, make all the spikes all go in at different angles, make it messy, and as penfold said, make some bent


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Thanks for all the info Penfold. Just one thing when you say it should look more like nails do you mean it should have the nailheads on it. Also thanks Dan and Penfold for helping I will try to make them to your liking


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yeah nail heads and then long and straight to a point. Just like any nail made today they haven't changed much in a long time..

As far as the wood goes it could be any shape smooth as yours is now, more like it would have just been a scrap of wood lying around. think defective post (ie something that a wood merchant couldn't sell) so it could be bent twisted have great big nots (wood nots!) or even big splits.

to be honest you could get a bit of 2x4 and wack nails in the end and it would do.

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I LOVE THAT CYCLOPS! Im gona call him yansee!

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Quote: "I LOVE THAT CYCLOPS!"


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i really do like the mace and battle hammer, but the battle hammer looks like a axe from the screenshot, hopefully its wider from the other position.

The only problem i have with the cyclops is its eye, it just looks wierd, lol..other than that i would buy the whole model pack (if i didnt spend all my money on cod4 and now saving for a new dbp and 3d world studio *sigh*)


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The Battle hammers ends need to widened. As it looks like a CBC.(CardBoardCutout)


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Lol, I wondered when you guys would notice, After I posted it I relised it's not a battle hammer it's a battle axe. Don't worry i'll make a battle axe too. BTW Dan it will be a free model pack so don't worry about money


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I think you should charge, even if its only a small amount...you need some money for your hard good work.But as its free, im not complaining


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Nope, not this time around. When I get better i'll considor charging somthing but right now I don't think I am good enough, besides I enjoy doing it


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I enjoy programming, still doesn't mean i can actually do anything good. I even enjoy modeling and i also suck at that.
But ohwell, its only money ur wastin


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@Dan: No offense to DBProgrammer, but I think he should release them for free. But the Cyclops doesn't look that good compared to most models about, but yeah, he should release them for free.


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Quote: "No offense to DBProgrammer, but I think he should release them for free. But the Cyclops doesn't look that good compared to most models about, but yeah, he should release them for free."


Non taken at all, it's what I keep trying to tell everybody. I'm not good enough at making these to sell them. Maybe when I get better but not now.


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Hi DBProgrammer,

How are you coming along on the pack? Which monster are u making next ie: Monsters: Raptor + Ape Cross(Idea) or Dragon(Idea)? All the best,
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Right now I am on vacation so I don't have a way to work on it, but thanks for asking.


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