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FPS Creator X10 / 8800 GT won't work

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Ocho Geek
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Posted: 6th Jun 2008 23:06
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Hi,

My Geforce 8800GT (yay) wont work (aww)

it says there is no graphics card in my computer, any ideas why from that explination?

P.S. its a PCIe 2 card, but thats meant to be backwards and forwards compatible with a PCIe computer

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Posted: 6th Jun 2008 23:45 Edited at: 7th Jun 2008 00:37
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also, i am led to believe it is broke, is this likely?

edit: the 8500 worked and that uses the same technology with less processecers and that, so the 8800 GT should work right?

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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 01:56 Edited at: 7th Jun 2008 01:56
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I know this may sound obvious did you plug in the 6 pin PCI express power connector into your card? The 8800 GT needs more power to run, and what size is your Power Supply, I have a 750 watt power supply and when I had an 8800 GT it worked fine, I know the 8500 doesn't use as much power as the 8800 series cards. And if your power supply does not put out enough power the card will not run properly and can cause you PC to lock up and crash or not boot at all, And PCI express 2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0,
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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 02:06
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Also make sure you have latest driver installed.

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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 09:46
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Quote: "Also make sure you have latest driver installed."

will do when i can get my PC to run

Quote: "I know this may sound obvious did you plug in the 6 pin PCI express power connector into your card? The 8800 GT needs more power to run, and what size is your Power Supply, I have a 750 watt power supply and when I had an 8800 GT it worked fine, I know the 8500 doesn't use as much power as the 8800 series cards. And if your power supply does not put out enough power the card will not run properly and can cause you PC to lock up and crash or not boot at all, And PCI express 2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0"

probably, but i will check

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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 16:59
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Minimum power supply for 8800GT should be 400W. Recommended 500W and up. I just got my 8800GT Overclock edition yesterday

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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 21:10
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I also want to add that it needs to be a good quality name brand power supply that is actually putting out the number rating that’s on its label (400 or 500 watts), because there are allot of junk power supplies on the market that are cheap and state on their label that they are 500 watt but in reality they are not, they have a peak power of 500 watts but they are not a continuous 500 watt and that is what you want continuous, and I would recommend a 80 plus certified power supply because they are 80% energy efficient and generate less heat and put out cleaner power, examples of name brand are: Antec, CORSAIR, PC Power & Cooling, Thermaltake, CoolMaster, Enermax, just to name a few.
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Posted: 7th Jun 2008 21:28 Edited at: 7th Jun 2008 21:40
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Quote: "Minimum power supply for 8800GT should be 400W. Recommended 500W and up. I just got my 8800GT Overclock edition yesterday "

How many watts is your power supply?

I took out the 400w that came with my system that had a 8500gt.
I replaced it with a 600w when I bought and installed my 8800gt.

I would not suggest running a minimum, because different systems have different components sharing that power supply.
So, a quad core is going to need more power than a dual core, and multiple hard drives require more power than a single one, etc.
Another reason not to run the minimum power supply is that you can't upgrade anything else later without possible power problems.

Quote: "it says there is no graphics card in my computer, any ideas why from that explination?"

If it isn't seated properly, then it won't detect it.
You may also want to try to re-seat it, because sometimes the pins don't line up and make contact right when you push it in.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2008 10:22
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I have good quality FSP-Retail Blue Storm II 500W.
I did some research at what really matters for a gfx card is the +v12 rail(s).
My psu has got two +v12 rails : +12V1 and +12V2. Each has got 18 A, what means they make togather 36A.
Minimum for 8800GT is 22-24A depending on what brand card are you using. I think 8800 GTX needed 28A.

Iv read that people can run 8800gt on even 380W power supplies what are good brand. Guess they have good V12 support.

Also you can try this out :

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

Mine pc needed only 382W.

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Posted: 8th Jun 2008 23:00
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yeah, its a power supply issue and the minimun is 550W

im gonna go from 400W to 650W, demolishing the rest of my birthday funds that were going towards buying crysis And FPSCX10 (now its bioshock only)

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1) Minimum for 8800gt is 400W, from where did you read 550W ?

2) Before wasting your money on new psu. Can you check how many A has your +12V rail(s) got ? It should be marked on a sticker on left side of psu.

3)And could you please give some details of what power supply you have got ? Brand, website link etc.

4) Have you tried others games ? Usually if your lacking psu power for gfx card your pc should give random blue screens and freezes.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2008 08:28 Edited at: 10th Jun 2008 03:28
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I just wanted to add that everyone is under the assumption that multiple 12+ rail power supplies are the way to go but all the experts are saying no, they are recommending a single 12 volt rail PSU the reason why is because no power is wasted with a single 12 volt rail PSU. Because if you have a multiple 12v rail PSU and one of the rails is not being used it is wasted power, also if the 12v PCI express rail does not have enough amps on multi 12v rail PSU your video cards will not function properly, also that is why all the top brands like PC Power & Cooling have been making high watt single 12volt rail PSU now.
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Posted: 9th Jun 2008 10:33
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K, intresting Chupa. Just got smarter

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Posted: 9th Jun 2008 21:52
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no, the PC wont start, so i cant rally get blue flashes can I?
i will check the +12V rails thing

much more complicated than the 8500

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Posted: 9th Jun 2008 21:57
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okay,
there is a sticker on the side, which says 230v

on the box it says
Quote: "
-ATX 12V Compliant for all kind of CPU and mainboard
-Input Voltage:115VAC or 230VAC or 115VAC/230VAC"


and the make is called "COLORSit"

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ahh.. I dident know that your pc dosent even work.
Is this your power supply ? http://www.colors-it.com.cn/03_products/pro_show.asp?pro_id_search=86&max_id_search=5&min_id_search=21

It has got 25A and one +12v rail. I googled around little bit and found out that 8800GT needs minimum 22-26A depending on the brand and power usage.
So yeah, you would need to go over to a more powerful power supply.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 22:55 Edited at: 11th Jun 2008 22:55
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no,

It was my motherboard, so it all works out one expensive birthday, but at least im running now and ready for


BIOSHOCK
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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 23:05
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oh. ok

So what was wrong with the motherboard?

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Posted: 12th Jun 2008 22:45
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not compatible

Wow, bioshock looks amazing now, i cant wait for crysis

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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 00:26
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lol.. ok. Congratz I guess.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2008 07:26
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Well, it's not the watts but the amps. My power supply is rated under what it should be in watts, but I have correct number of amps so it worked fine.


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