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CoffeeGrunt
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Ok! Space travel, HERE I COME! Lol.......

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Hybrid
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Posted: 20th Jul 2008 23:39
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I think I can... I think I can...

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Nickydude
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Posted: 20th Jul 2008 23:50
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I thought I could... I thought I could...

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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 00:49
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Why?

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Nickydude
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It's off a cartoon with a train in it, it say's "I think I can..." when it's going up the hill, and "I thought I could..." when it reaches the top. Obviously I'm the only one who saw that cartoon.

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Urlforce Studios
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It is from a book...



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Nickydude
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I knew it was... I knew it was...




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bond1
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 02:19
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Quote: "So go find what it is you want to do, and go do it, regardless of your qualifications"


That is just so true..

When I was growing up, there was no internet. When I wanted to learn about an esoteric craft like audio production or photography, unless there was someone that could teach me directly, I was out of luck. Oh, I could go to the pathetic library and probably find a 20 year old book on the subject that was horribly outdated.

Now, you can find the most up to date information on ANY subject through a simple Google search, the world is literally at your fingertips. I am constantly blown away by this - I keep telling myself, "If only I had access to something like this when I was a kid, I could've done so much more by now..."

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Hybrid
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 02:24
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I still hold with my thought that people need to try things for themselves on these forums.

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Dar13
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 02:41
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which i do consistently and for bond1...that's how i feel but now I feel that i have to much fake information.

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xyzz1233
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 05:27 Edited at: 21st Jul 2008 05:49
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@ Ply:
I both agree, and disagree. I often jump headfirst into things and try to get them right.

However, many people have their skills in different parts of their brain. I once tried to 3D model and texture, for example. I got a Blender, GIMP and some tutorials. I dived headfirst into it. After I learned about what all of the buttons and things did, and then I got in to my first real tutorial using GIMP to texture a box. The box part was easy, but the texture, no matter how much I tried, it just didn't work out.

The whole point of this is that programming is a little different than artistic things. Programming is easy for me, whereas I've always struggled with art, including 3D modelling and texturing.

Urlforce really did great things with his mod and then Lemur. I really did like that story, about how he embraced DBP, actually. However, Urlforce had someone who he could learn key in learning anything, right next to motivation...
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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 09:41
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Yeh, I can never seem to get UV Maps to work.....EVER! IT's so annoying and every tutorial I've followed doesn't work....

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Nickydude
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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 10:03 Edited at: 21st Jul 2008 10:12
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This is starting to go slightly off topic.


(Just practising... just in case )

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KeithC
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Adding my support for Plyster and Nickydude (not sure if I'm supposed to be commenting here or not); I'd also like to throw in Nomad Soul to the mix. I've seen him around regularly, he seems to have a pretty level head with his approach and he's actually been developing some pretty cool stuff with FPSC.

Quote: "And for my "dark horse" candidate I nominate "Leaning Objects to the Side". She could just pop into any heated discussion, tell everyone how AWESOME they are, and the world would be right again."

That's actually a good argument for Tanya; but I don't want the nastiness that may inhabit her inbox to turn her smile upside down.

-Keith

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OurHaus Industries
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I know I've just joined the forums, and I agree with KeithC. Nomand Soul would be a good choice. I also think Nickydude would be appropriate for the job. Good luck to all who is and will be nominated or this.
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FredP
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Quote: "I'm willing to bet that none of the Mods plan to be a Mod their entire life.
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I'm getting buried with my mod badge on (as soon as I find a way to pin the virtual badge onto whatever ill-fitting cheap suit they bury me in against my will).
As far as I know we started out with 4 mods here and we still have those 4 until you wisely choose another to join us.
It is easier a lot of times to moderate behind the scenes and causes less confontation.
The moderator who quit was not an FPSC moderator.
You guys did a good job of picking mods last time (three out of four ain't bad but you got stuck with me too) and I have no doubt you'll pick another good one.

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Deathead
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Quote: "The moderator who quit was not an FPSC moderator."

Was that Indi? The guy who was prone to the Game design theory board?


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Just Curious Does tgc have anything to do like telling you guys to find another mod or do you guys pretty much just run this board?

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I nominate... LikeIcare456. he's a good guy and aint signed up to the site yet.

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jke.

I rock the vote with Ply/thrax/connor(airslide)/wehtam/aaron(sethbalck) although he's up to his knees being a admin for sw boards and last of all, Botch from fpsb(like as if that'll happen, but seriously if he was on this board it'll be a 100 percent vote for him from me, he hunts down nublets at night and... Bans them... )

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Please do not post non-specific requests, and read the stickies at [B]teh[/B] top of the board... "
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FredP
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We have a job and a boss just like anyone else.We don't run these boards.We merely police them.

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Posted: 21st Jul 2008 21:22 Edited at: 21st Jul 2008 21:42
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@everyone

Lets get back on topic here, we've hopped off on a bunny trail

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Airslide
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I see a carrot Must...return...to...trail...

The carrot...will...be...mine....must...be...mine...

I shall get the carrot before you

*ahem*

Sorry slight mental hick-up.

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Posted: 22nd Jul 2008 03:16
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Quote: "Just Curious Does tgc have anything to do like telling you guys to find another mod or do you guys pretty much just run this board?"


The request for another Mod did not come from TGC and they intefere very little if at all with how FPSC Mods handle things around here. Thats in large part because they have some considerable trust in the judgement of and Choice of the Moderators appointed first time around. Likewise will be the case of any new Mod I am sure.



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RedneckRambo
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Quote: "I nominate... Jenkins, to nominate the person that will become moderator"

Haha wow, I just noticed that from the first page. I'm honored I'm being nominated to nominate someone for MOD lol.

Quote: "Thraxas and Jenkins have my votes, they seem to have pretty good posting styles"

Thanks Paul. Those are the two best candidates right there lol just messing. Well sort of, they're my two favorites lol.

Quote: "anyone else.We don't run these boards.We merely"

FredP, good to see you. Seems like I haven't seen you in a long time. Well anyways, I'm just curious, but why is it that you don't space the word after a period? I've noticed that for a long time but never was curious enough to ask lol.



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FredP
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I thought it was supposed to be two spaces.I'm too old and can't remember stuff like that...although I do a fair job of spelling.
I'm still around.Just not as much and I don't post as much as I used to.

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Thraxas
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2008 12:21
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I think when people used typewriters 2 spaces after a full stop and one space after a comma was used... But that changed when computers took over typewriters to one after a full stop...

The kids in my class didn't even know what a typewriter was... It made me feel old!

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TeMpLaR1
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2008 15:25 Edited at: 22nd Jul 2008 15:54
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Another Moderator vote eh? Well personally I cant really think of anyone to vote for as the ones I wanted are mods and I have had no reason to come to the forums often anymore, so I don't really know the personality of anyone here. If I was to vote based on the amount of times I do show myself Plystire would be the choice I would make. Another one would be Bloodeath as having a tiny discussion with him has shown me that he wishes the forums to revert back to the good ole days as much as I do and would be able to help in doing just that.

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Inspire
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Quote: "The kids in my class didn't even know what a typewriter was... It made me feel old!"


Is that possible? How old were these kids?
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They were between 7 and 8... It's not the youngest age that I teach but we were talking about keyboards and why we have the QWERTY layout... When I mentioned typewriters I had 32 blank looks and when I asked if anybody knew what a typewriter was none of them did...

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Inspire
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That's incredible, I cannot understand that.

Where do you teach?
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Currently in Australia, but I did all my training in England and have taught there also...

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Flatlander
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2008 03:30 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2008 03:30
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There goes Peter Cottontail hopping down the bunny trail.

Quote: "but I did all my training in England"


So, what did you do that you got sent to Australia or has England stopped sending prisoners to Australia.

I was the only male in 1960 something that was in our typing class.

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Quote: "I was the only male in 1960 something that was in our typing class."


I don't know if I'd have told that one. LOL But once again, getting off this exit on the Bunny Trail.....

I'm curious as to why the MODS felt we needed another. I thought things were pretty smooth. You always hear someone saying that the forum is a mean place or going down hill, but I've always written that off as the hurt feelings of a member or two, and never anything on a large scale. That sort of thing is expected. It certainly seems much better than it was two years ago, and I really haven't noticed any increase in violence. LOL

Perhaps it's just the growth rate?

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KeithC
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Mostly myself and Fred are getting burnt out; and with me working at both the Prison and a member of The National Guard again, I have barely little time for development (not to mention spending time with my wife and kids). It's just starts to drag on you after awhile.

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That, and the FPSC fan base has grown exponentially with the addition of FPSC X10 as well as the recent free promotions for X9.

Its more of a future-proofing decision, rather then a forced one.

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KeithC
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Good point, Tim.

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There does seem to be alot more users, and I have noticed some increased hostility towards newer members particularly over in the models and media section... Arguments starting over really petty things like which modeling program someone uses...

I do think ,though, that some users do get overly upset at their work not getting the response they felt it deserved... In saying that, however, they probably wouldn't take it so personally if there were some comments on how they could improve instead of just criticism...

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Quote: "It's just starts to drag on you after awhile."


I'll bet it does. It's one thing to come around and answer a few posts, or browse around leisurely. I'll bet it's very different when you have to clean up all the little forum poo-poo's. Whoever gets the job, I know I'll appreciate their contribution as much as I do yours and the rest of our mods.

Quote: "I have noticed some increased hostility towards newer members particularly over in the models and media section"


We have a lot of what I've heard referred to as "Mini-Mods" who think it's their job to recite the rules to anyone who posts something which may be questionable. Luckily, there are normally enough reasonable members to post behind them and cool things down.

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KeithC
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In all truth, I enjoy helping out the community and starting up comps and other things...like the BOTB. I just need a breather once in awhile.

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I think what we need to do, and I understand that not everyone would agree with it, but we each need to ask ourselves a question...

Do we really need another moderator?
Do we need more "parental" guidance?
I think, instead of putting another person up for moderator position, we should reform the community to the point we don't need as many moderators patrolling the boards and threads - I mean come on guys, sure you get power, responsibility and honor - but I think it'd be better off for everyone just to behave and get along.

Sure if you get picked you get that shiny moderator "crown" and you get "worshiped" but what if we trusted ourselves to where we don't need someone to come stop a fight or to lock a thread that has gone off track. Keith said it - helping out the community involves more than slapping someone or closing threads. Anyone can begin compos or choose "BOTB" type honors.

As for being hated when you are a moderator, I personally have heard people trash talk every mod on the fpsc side of the boards. So prepare to get emails that may contain pictures of you altered, or messages that target your whole lifestyle etc.

Becoming a moderator does not get you a job at TGC. There are no specials you get for being a moderator, there are no secret FPSC versions, you don't get Lee Bamber's cave hotline.

So for all of you who would like the position, I'd like to congratulate you on your curiosity of what YOU could make these forums.

Ply, the "front runner", you are one of the best contributors we have. Does everyone know what happens when you get moderator? You get less time to work on your own projects. How do you expect Ply to continue his mod, give scripting advice on nearly every thread, and patrol the board for those who threaten the way of life here. All while starting out his ambitions in the real world.

You guys don't see the big picture here. Who ever "wins" will have to give up precious time to make sure Gotham city is safe 24/7...

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RedneckRambo
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I'm going to have to disagree Urlforce. Moderators are needed. There is no such place where everyone just gets a long. EVERYWHERE leaders are needed to guide people in the right direction. There are those that "mini-mod" but a lack of power is just not enough sometimes.

Quote: "You guys don't see the big picture here. Who ever "wins" will have to give up precious time to make sure Gotham city is safe 24/7..."


This would surely be a "win" for me. I'm here everyday for hours a day. I don't really do anything aside from this place so I have no precious time to give away. And I'm SURE I'm not the only one.

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Ply, the "front runner", you are one of the best contributors we have. Does everyone know what happens when you get moderator? You get less time to work on your own projects. How do you expect Ply to continue his mod, give scripting advice on nearly every thread, and patrol the board for those who threaten the way of life here. All while starting out his ambitions in the real world."


Though I somewhat agree, as stated by someone else, maybe it's time for others to start contributing. If Plystire really wants to become a MOD then he damn well should do it. We'll lose one of the communities best contributors but surely more will come out from hiding.



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See, being a mod would be beneficial to me. I end up staring at these forums for way too long and not working on my own stuff anyways, so I might as well put my time here to good use. You know?

And it's not like Ply doesn't have a choice. He can always turn down the position.
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I think the only problem at hand is, there are too many people that would be good mods. Ply, thraxas, nickydude, bloodeath, Inspire, Me (least I think I would,) Seth Black (even though he doesn't want to be a MOD,) Nomad Soul, Xplosys, Airslide, the list goes on and on lol.



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Quote: "There is no such place where everyone just gets a long."

Have you seen Gunn3r Games? We have a couple global moderators, but I've never seen them ever edit another topic. We've never even flamed one another, because everyone over there is dedicated and committed to making a good community.


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All those people you named are good candidates (thanks for including me, lol). I also think you would be a good mod.

@ gunn3r:

I think that's because you have a relatively stable community of people who are there for game design. New people show up all the time here and wreak havoc because their allies script doesn't work and they can't get a free tank model.
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@Inspire, That is true... I feel sorry for the Mod Squad because they have to put up with that.


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Quote: "Have you seen Gunn3r Games? We have a couple global moderators, but I've never seen them ever edit another topic. We've never even flamed one another, because everyone over there is dedicated and committed to making a good community."

Gunn3r Games is very small. Gunn3r games is like a newborn midget lol. It's much like my forums. It's very small and the few users there get a long VERY well. So I was wrong in saying that there is no such place where everyone gets along. However, when it's such a large community like this, things just don't work out that easy.



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Quote: "(thanks for including me, lol). I also think you would be a good mod."

Your welcome and thank you lol. By the way, you're still a MOD at my forums lol.



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Funny you should bring up "Gotham City", Url. I just got back from watching the new Batman movie. Cute... to say the least.

While I appreciate your concern I don't feel the same as you do in this situation. I have spare time... believe it or not. I do have things that need to be done in real life, but so does everyone else, whether they notice it or not. However, while the world sleeps at roughly 10:30 pm I am lying sleepless on the couch or in my computer chair, respectively watching another pointless movie or prowling the forums. When I say that I have no "time" to work on my Mod, I mean just that, but not in a literal sense. I have the time to spend on it but am incapable of doing so. I have the time to dwell in shadows watching threads go by and quite capable of doing that.

Moderators are quite capable of replying to threads as normal members can. I see no reason why I would stop helping people with their scripting problems if I was a moderator. The only thing that would mean is I would read a broaden scope of threads, look deeper into the reaches of these forums, and be able to do something about flame wars that sprout up when no moderators are around. I live in the US, and (correct me if I'm wrong) the moderators here live in Europe. This means that while I'm browsing the forums during the day, they are most likely asleep...

As for the slander brought upon moderators... I brought this up once in a thread in Geek Culture talking about how many results you get for Googling your real name...... I have no results for my real name. My real self and "Plystire" are two seperate entities. Being the kind of person I am, I am quite careful as of late to keep that seperation a very distinct one. Oh so very few people know of my real name and even fewer have a picture of me, know where I live, and more importantly know enough about my life to emotionally get me worked up. There is very little risk I would run as a moderator. Those who do attempt to personally attack me end up failing, because they have absolutely no clue what effects me and what I respond to in the way they are looking for. I think the best someone has gotten out of me in terms of anger was merely a disturbingly sarcastic reply.


These forums need a moderator... it probably won't be myself, but they do. And I hope it's someone they can count on.


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Quote: "Do we really need another moderator? "


The forum members have expressed a desire for another moderator and,given the growth in these forums as well as the addition of x10,we really do need one.
Although I think Urlforce has a good point in that "parental guidance" (which I assume would involve the teaching of manners and such) will go a lot farther than any moderator will.
We should get another mod now we can use one than wait until later when we already needed one.
An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure...

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