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lazerus
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this has been bugging me,

i dont understand the way 3ds max seperates the sides with different shaders making it look like it has seams, is there any way to fix this or is it the model its self ?

thxs for any help, its greatly appreciated


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 15:49
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That my freind is a smoothing error.
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I have'nt got a clue >.< try selecting the lines that are creating the smoothing error's in edit poly mode, then maybe resmooth them lines.
I have'nt got a clue to say.


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thxs LT Tatters helped little, it dissapears when i turbo smooth but it gives too high a poly count -_-

one more thing how do you twirl and a line into a 3d object thts been bugging me aswell, you see thm do it in the tuts but i can y make out what modifier it is

thxs


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 16:20
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twirl a line... Hmm... let see...
if you mean line as in the draw a line, then I would use nurbs curve lines for curved lines, other then that, when using a straight line... extrude it by zero(using modifiers.) then make it a editable polygon, then select edges(for editing polygon.) then go to the edit edges tab thing (:S).
then select insert vertex, now select a part of the line and put vertexes on it
then go to vertex editing mode, select a vertex one by one and pull it out or in, each one at a diffrent time not all at once
hope you undertsand what I mean by that, rofl, i aint the best at guiding people... xD


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 16:26 Edited at: 27th Aug 2008 16:28
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errr yes...

better explanation of my problem, at the start when you first load 3ds max you get a welcome screen, you get tuts and you see that chalace on the pillar, she draws a line a creates a 3d shape from it but she dosent cover it in their tuts -_-

ahah lathe got it now thxs


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Ok thought you mean draw a line, add some more vertex and curve them, but yes it is lathe, although lathe can be inaccurate and fussy, just try not banging you're head on the wall Lol
takes some time to use lathe correctly


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 17:04 Edited at: 27th Aug 2008 17:04
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You have all the different sides on different smoothing groups, in your editable poly tag in max you should scroll down and see a bunch of numbered boxes, what you want to do is select all the sides and then re put them in the same smoothing group by pressing the first box that is labeled "1".


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kk thxs wondering what those numbers where


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 17:42
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No problem


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Posted: 27th Aug 2008 18:31 Edited at: 27th Aug 2008 18:59
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i bet this is starting to bug people.

how do you grow the hair strighter and only on certain parts of the face?

i know how to style it but no idea how to cut 'n blow

we should have a FAQ 3ds max thread with the amount of questions ppl ask like how to see the poly count (7) -(i only found out yesterday)


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Posted: 29th Aug 2008 12:54 Edited at: 29th Aug 2008 12:55
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and yeet behold another problem

how would i combine these two objects and merge the edges of the meshs together to get a smoother feel to it?


and yes i know that there a mess i fix all that at the end

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Here's a video that explains it all.
its called, boolean, boolean is weel k00l
http://www.iongfx.com/DFII_Tutorials/booleans/booleans.html


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ahh boolean i know that is cut and all that, used it in ac3d but where is it in 3ds max ? or thats in the tut

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Yep read the tut.


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yay nice one

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yep. Nice tut. but sometimes you gotta be careful with Boolean somtimes. can make some problems.


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Posted: 29th Aug 2008 15:09 Edited at: 29th Aug 2008 15:20
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yeh it did cause more problems there joined but am at the same problem lol the mesh is still there even tough i unified them -_-

damm i hate changing programs its so frustrating especially if you know how to fix the problem in the other program, but that defeats the point of becoming independent on 3ds...

edit could the diifence be caused by me using autodesk max 9

never mind ill rebuild the top part frm te extra mesh am trying to delete

thxs tatters i owe a few pints

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the best way to help u with your problem will be for u to post the 3d studio max file and let us open it and fix it then will tell u what we had to do.

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Posted: 29th Aug 2008 15:56
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Quote: "the best way to help u with your problem will be for u to post the 3d studio max file and let us open it and fix it then will tell u what we had to do.
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Or maybe stop saying "u" and start using punctation?

Anyways, yeah booleans would probably be the way to go if you wanted an automatic way of doing it, I would suggest doing it manually since that always (If you have enough skill I guess) give a less messy and better mesh.


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Posted: 29th Aug 2008 18:44
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Never used shaders in max, but it looks like you want to use sphere mapping on that object.


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Could be a lighting issue. Try placing a skylight and then Render>advanced Lighting>Light Tracer

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t as just the smoothing groups for some reasom they had been split into speperate groups thxs for the input ppl

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goddammit, i.e currently anit working ive hooked my psp as a wireless router so i cant view files and videos also it has taken my about 50 min to load this page(no litrally), virgin is down in our area, piece of crap

anyways can someone tell me how to uv map in 3ds max i know how to unwrap it but how do you get the picture file fom there? and i take it that you simply attch the pic to a material

thxs for the help, am definalty going to make a faq from this lol

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Well once you have it unrwapped how you want all you need to do is go to tools > render UVW Template. The pick the size you want it (default is 1024) then click n render and click the little save button in the render window to save it out as whatever file type you want.

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 14:16 Edited at: 2nd Sep 2008 14:31
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strange i dont have that option in tools,

i unwrap uvw, then tools and that option anit there -_-

i use autodesk max 9 if that makes a difference

time to google
btw virgin fixed the road workers where cutting the fibre optics,.. dum idiots lol

right just bought quick a few tuts so i should be good now,i would have done it sooner but i dident have aa few hundred quid lying around

thxs ppl

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First apply a UVW unwrap modifier

Click on edit

click on mapping> Flattern mapping

Click on render to texture

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thxs frap, though i got it all down now, bought a load of tuts and along with a few freewbies

heres a link i found very useful for anybody whos intrested,
http://www.waylon-art.com/uvw_tutorial/uvwtut_01.html

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