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Geek Culture / Elfen Lied videogame?

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Charlie
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Posted: 7th Sep 2008 04:10
A few months ago I saw these interesting and amazing series of anime called Elfen Lied, being it the 5th one of this style. What most impressed me was the original and sticking story, which captured me from start to end. If you haven't seen it, the official name is "Elfen Lied". Basically, it narrates the story of Lucy, a "diclonius" (human-like beings with horns and invisible arms called vectors). Diclonius were born, as they describe, to kill humans, but she once was able to meet someone who loved her, becoming then different from others, but also hurting the person she loved. You can check it better on Wikipedia or even see the episodes on Youtube or via download.
Well, I just got kind obsessed with it, even to learn Lilium (the theme song) in piano. Just then, I was thinking if appart from the manga, there was some of videogame. After some searching, I discovered a group of fans made a kinda "fighting-style" game about the series for the PlayStation One, very simple and not so original. I continued looking for some adventure or movie videogame, but nothing.
So well, here is my idea, and for all the fans or people who know the series. Since I at least can do some videogames, I was thinking to make an unnoficial videogame about the series, obviosly freeware, but with an adventure/actions style that follows the story. Encouraged by a friend, I was thinking about the idea, but it is still in mere development. I managed to figure a control style useful for the game, taking in count the "vectors" of the character: moving with arrows and using the mouse position to control the vectors.
I am still thinking to do it, so I am posting this soon to see if there are some fans or people interested in the idea, or just to get some ideas. Please make all the suggestions and critics you can, to decide if I will definitively work on the videogame. Thank you for all your attention :9

CarlosCW

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Posted: 7th Sep 2008 04:18
hmm...prolly the only anime manga what ever it show i kinda like!

its cool!


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Aertic
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Posted: 7th Sep 2008 19:30
Games of shows/movies never prevail, remember that.

(basicly... I smell some more passagers among the fail boat.)


No doubt'fully the simon cowell of the fpsc section :S
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Posted: 7th Sep 2008 21:34
Quote: "Games of shows/movies never prevail, remember that."

Well, there are many good doujin games, so this may be one of them.^^

Make games, not war.
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Posted: 8th Sep 2008 04:42
Well, I haven't seen the anime, but I've read the manga, which finished about a week ago. A very good and striking story. I wonder about making the vectors in-game, how would you control multiples at a time, and how would you do it as to appear as instantaneuous and such. Also, I don't know if they address this in the anime, but


Most importantly I'd like to see a good deal of an Elfen Lied game not revolve around killing people with vectors, at least during the middle. There are plenty of parts of the manga that are down time and character building. Also, typically in the manga the average human is just filler kills, and there are often "boss fights". In that manner, you're already set up for a good game layout. Another thing which I can't say how well you'd be able to reproduce is the speed of fights and how deadly they are. I mean, Elfen Lied revolves most around the loss of limbs and gunshot wounds. You could add losing limbs as the story already explains how diclonius can deal with that, but how would you show how easy it is to be killed? Would you put in a system where your vectors automatically protect you from most attacks? Oh, and remember that diclonius can't use their vectors under extreme pain. You might want to have a pain meter that effects how well your vectors work. In fact, if I were you I wouldn't even add a health bar. Aside from losing a limb, blood loss, or pain, pretty much every hit is deadly in the manga. Last I wouldn't make vectors used in puzzles, or sneaking mechanics, at least for Lucy. Vectors seemed to be for killing soely (aside from one instance I remember in the manga).

Anyways, if you follow the manga/anime in terms of gameplay, you're set up for a very interesting fighting/adventure game.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2008 17:57
Oh, and expect it to be a 18+.
The series itself contained probably the most... "boob-age" in a animie cartoon then anyother... as some people say...
>_<


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and very gory


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Charlie
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Thank you a lot for your suggestions, especially you Bizar Guy. I haven“t even though a lot about the control, but the idea to avoid the use with pain may be a very interesting factor to add difficulty to the game. As well, I am not planning the game to just be one more GTA, I have though ways to develop the characters may free-romain domined by the storyline. Probably in that way, you will be able to use all the main characters, in order to develop each one story.
Just now I thought about creating the option to just follow one character's story, and his or her points of view regarding the events in the series, although this for sure would require more work and a correct adaptation of the very story to mantain it interesting and at the same time playable.
I got quite excited by your suggestions, and it's sure I will make it, maybe finishing by the summer of next year, as I have other proyects as well as a lot of homework in high school. And I know it, it would be surely 18+, although if I reduce the explicit scenes and make the blood in a fancy style, it could be reduced to the age limit of 15+. It would be anyway funny for me to create a game of an adult limit without me even having the right age to play it (situations of life, lol).

Regarding more the aspects of the gameplay, I was thinking that the way to use vectores would be controled with a simple algorithm of the mouse position, like this (in pseudocode):




Ok it isn't much, but at least you get my idea. I still have to design the algorithm to save the vectors new positions and move the vectors towards them, and I hope I figure it out in less than a week or a few todays. Although I would appreciate if you can help me in this, as I have not programmed in two months and I am forgetting the basic ideas.
Based on the pain idea, I will design for the vectors to become solid while the mouse left button is left pressed, and thus will create and object on the limb to detect collision with objects and either destroy them or execute the proper action. However, there will be a meter of use, and when it reaches the limit, it will either prevent the user from using the vectors (until it recharges, like a energy bar), or kill the player. I really prefer the first idea, for I would hate to have to make the character die, as the diclonius are girls in this game.

Well, there are some of my ideas. I don't have much time to write here, but I will be thinking about it. I will later post more information, and advice you when I start to work on the proyect. If there are some volunteers or fans from the series that would like to support the game, any help is totally welcome. I even have wondered that we can make the game so good that even the company can buy it and make it official. Ah, just dreaming. Thanks to everyone for theor help, I see you later

CarlosCW

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I strongly dislike Elfen Lied. It's not exactly the gore that turns me off, because I like Gantz, but it's the gore/emo combination. I mean come on...

I like Naruto, 666Satan, Bleach, Gantz and One Piece. I like others, but they are past loves lol.

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Posted: 12th Sep 2008 08:35
i like Naruto Abridged version, now THATS entertainment.

if you call me an idiot/retard again, ill stick my finger in your mouth, and i have a really dirty finger, you don't want it in there!
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Posted: 12th Sep 2008 16:34
Quote: "i like Naruto Abridged version, now THATS entertainment."

That stuff is as unfunny as hell. Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged series is where it's at.


And all of you should try reading the manga of these series. They're so much better. A mean, Naruto? Did you really wade though the 100 episodes of filler in a row? Or are you watching the US version, which is still going though that filler. Good luck, because there's no new story until Naruto Shippuden, and even that is slowed down so much it's like reading the manga a page every three minutes. Then Bleach trying to blend filler into the story like One Piece and fails horribly, and slows the fights down the farther the anime goes. One Piece takes the extremely fast pace of the manga, and by the rescuing Robin arc has slowed it down so much that you are basically seeing one 19 page chapter per 30 minute episode. Gantz did a pretty good job, though I don't think it got the feel down nearly as well as the manga, and the made up ending I really thought was awful. Still, it was pretty good.

For animes, I recommend (just in the order they came to mind):
FLCL
Eureka Seven
Full Metal Alchemist (though as good as it is, I think the manga is better, but say see both)
Cowboy Bebop
Samurai Champloo
Wolves Reign
Every single Hayao Miyazaki Movie
And maybe one or two more that are slipping my mind. And of course, I'm sure there are plenty of good ones I haven't seen, though many so called good ones I find pretty unimpressive.

I'd give a list of good mangas, but it would be so long... maybe I'll post it later, maybe not.

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I generally like the mangas better than the anime's. The only time that differs is when the manga gets dull and the anime is at an interesting point, or their is a cool fight I want to see actually animated out.

Naruto Shippuden is much better and I really can't complain about it being dull. One of the reasons I admire the series so much is how they have bonded the characters so tightly. Yes, the 100 episode streak of filler broke the record for lame, but I did watch it all and I think it took character growth past good into excellent. It's also cool to see the younger kids from the series having grown into older kids where the series actually started. The creator of Naruto has set up such an extensive universe than he can keep this series going longer than anyone can imagine.

I am very excited for where Shippuden is going though. It is getting VERY interesting. Spoilers:
It can't get too much better than that.

And the most recent Naruto filler in the anime wasn't actually half bad. Sora got a little annoying after his third episode of being emo but other than that, the fights where cool. I think they did it mainly to pump up Asuma before Spoiler:


The Bleach anime is absolutely pissing me off to the point to where other Anime's have taken it's place. I am so sick of stupid filler. At the same time, nothing can be worse as the fricking Bounto filler arc. I would rather watch 200 episodes of Naruto filler than go through that odd arc again.

The Bleach manga is... pretty good. It's not great, but it's up there. I give it a lower rating because nothing much gets accomplished per chapter, and I'm sick of waiting a week in between. They need more content per week.

I will not watch the anime of Gantz simply because I like the manga so much. I stubbled upon Gantz by accident one day and it completely absorbed me. It's really good.

Other anime's I like, but haven't read the manga for is Gundam Wing and Outlaw Star. Other Mangas I like that I haven't read all the way through are FMA and Air Gear.

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Quote: "Full Metal Alchemist (though as good as it is, I think the manga is better, but say see both)"


The manga and anime are so different though. They each tell a different tale. FMA is up there with Evangelion as one of the greatest anime series of all time. And I'll stand by that.

Though an Elfen Lied game would certainly be interested... and very gory. I couldn't imagine you making this kinda game at a 15+ level without seriously compromising it. Or else you must have a different standard for violence than I do.

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like thats any better


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Why do you say that flicken?

What is Evangelion about Cian?

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Quote: "I strongly dislike Elfen Lied. It's not exactly the gore that turns me off, because I like Gantz, but it's the gore/emo combination. I mean come on... "


and then he names a show called 666satan...thats kinda like an oxymoron


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Quote: "The manga and anime are so different though. They each tell a different tale. FMA is up there with Evangelion as one of the greatest anime series of all time. And I'll stand by that."

Oh most def, I just mean I prefer the manga story. They're both excellent, which is why I so strongly recommend both.

Alright, here's Manga I recommend that I've read, grouped into catagories, though the mangas in the categories are arranged in no order:

Must Reads:
Full Metal Alchemist
Gantz
FLCL
Eureka Seven
Elfen Lied
Claymore
Berserk
Amatsuki
Trigun
Trigun Maximum

Very Good Reads:
Air Gear
Bleach
One Piece
D Gray Man
666 Satan
Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles
Shaman King
Fairy Tail

Interesting Reads:
Naruto (sorry, I do follow Naruto, but I think the 100 filler episodes killed it in many ways for me, even Manga)
Fire Candy
Fairy Cube
Vampire Hunter
Inuyasha

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Quote: "and then he names a show called 666satan...thats kinda like an oxymoron"


666Satan is not emo in the least. Maybe you just misunderstand my definition of emo.

Sasuke in Naruto gets a little emo about the whole itachi/parents killed things, but it doesn't make the series emo, just him.

Every anime has some drama, but that's what makes it good.

I think elfen lied is emo because it seems to center around this sadness of loved ones dying because of this powerful being or w/e. People getting ripped limb to limb, blood everywhere, and then lots and lots of crying. And then if you look at EL's fanbase, it consists of a crap load of emo/goth people. So, I guess it's emo bait.

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well I dont watch anything anime manga crap...its all pretty retarded to me...ive only watched like one ep of elfen lied....


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@flickenmaste, [face palm]

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@flickenmaste:


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Quote: "well I dont watch anything anime manga crap...its all pretty retarded to me...ive only watched like one ep of elfen lied...."


Ouch. Why do you say that?

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@all-


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