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Geek Culture / Xenogears or FF7...which is better

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emuking
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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 22:52
As much as i love ff7 it can only be my second favorite game. Xenogears is one of the best rpg's ever. is there anyone who agrees with me?
Ian T
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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 23:00
More anime... people need to play real RPGs, like Daggerfall/Morrowind/Gothic/Neverwinter Nights. Hmmph.

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Troan
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Posted: 25th Jul 2003 23:16
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Arrow
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Posted: 26th Jul 2003 01:21
Tough choice, but I'm going with Xenogears. It has a better more complexe plot, better battle system (imho), more in depth characters, music is a little better in whole (has a few more mommorable tunes than FF7), and it over twice as long as FF7. I beat FF7 in 20 hours me first time, it took me 80 hours to be Xenogears the first time. Plus no matter how much Sepheroth rules, Id could take him in a heartbeat. It's kinda hard to believe that a game with mechas could rival Final Fantasy, but it is one hell of a game.

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MikeS
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Posted: 26th Jul 2003 01:39
Dang, I think I'm gonna have to buy Xenogear, if you say it's better than FFVII, or at least rent it for a week.



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emuking
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Posted: 26th Jul 2003 02:30
its very hard to find. or at least when i tried looking so its good i got the original copy. anyway the reason xenogears is better is casu u never forget it years after you beat it. It was very under publisiced so few know about it.

Eric T
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Posted: 26th Jul 2003 04:15
xenogears....by far better then ff7. Like arrow said..the total time of gameplay is what makes it better.

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Arrow
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Posted: 26th Jul 2003 13:36
It's very differant than FF7, most noticably is the battle system. Magic is used but is hardly the best way to go about smashing up stuff. Your main form of attack is combos and deathblows. At the begining of each round of combat (the battle is real time, but I can't explain it better than this) you start out with a set number of ability points, you can use 3 types of attack if you got enough ability point to execute them: Weak attack = 1, Mid attack = 2, Strong attack = 3. If you use these attack in a sectain order you'll unlease a deathblow, which does some nice damage. All of this so far uses no magic nor does it drain anything, you can use the same combo and deathblows over and over again, however if you always use the same ones, you'll never get new ones. Now if you don't use up all your ability point in one attack they will be saved up and you can use them to unlease a bunch of deathblows all at once.

Now that's all fun a good, but what do you do when you come across an ememy the size a house? You jump into your Gears. A Gear is a giant robot used for combat, they don't nessarly have to look humanoid, but for the most part they do. While combating in a Gear you have the same chooce of attack as before, weak, mid, and strong. the differance lies in the fact that the use fuel to attack and you have to level up your attack to use more powerful deathblows. To level up, simply use weak attacks without deathblows. You can go up to 3 levels normally. What attacks you learn outside your gear will translate to the attacks you can use while in a Gear. Ignore training on foot and you'll be just as weak in a Gear. You can also charge while in a gear which restores fuel, or you can boost, which drains your fuel but makes you faster and stronger. The one down side is you can't use item while in a Gear, and healing Gears costs alot of fuel.

Later in the game you can get Omnigears, which are pretty much super-Gears. long with being faster and strong, they have a real nice bonus. If you charge your Omnigear to level three and not attack, there's a chance you can go to level infinate. This lasts 3 turns and you get, at most, 3 attacks which don't cost much fuel and do massive damage to your enemy.

That pretty much sums up the battle system of Xenogears. Guess I got carried away. A demo of Xenogears comes with "Parasite Eve" another great game from Square, if you can find it.

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