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Lemonade
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 06:57
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http://www.yougamers.com/news/22239_spore_de-authorization_tool_released/

Woohoo!
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Sid Sinister
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So the first thing that actually is working semi-effectively against piracy (or at least frustrating the snot out of pirates), is complained about so much that they remove it. Who plays the same game on multiple computers at a time? Really? I mean I'm sure there are some instances, but what is so confusing about having to buy multiple keys? You want to install it more than once, buy more than one key. Simple math really.

Well whatever. If this is a score for you spore people, good for you guys. I guess.

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ionstream
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Now I can finally install Spore on all 11 of my computers that I take turns using to keep them all fresh.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 17:01
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Quote: "Who plays the same game on multiple computers at a time?"


Who's still playing this game??

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Lucifer
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 18:36 Edited at: 19th Dec 2008 18:39
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Quote: "So the first thing that actually is working semi-effectively against piracy (or at least frustrating the snot out of pirates)"


Apparently it wasn't effective at all from what i've heard. People were still able to download and play the game with no problems.

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Jeku
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 19:37
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Quote: "Who plays the same game on multiple computers at a time? Really?"


Actually the problem was the fact that it had a 5 install limit--- PERIOD. There was no way to register an uninstall. *That* was the problem. There is still a 5-install limit at the same time, but at least you can uninstall and it properly registers so you can do that forever.


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Lemonade
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 20:57 Edited at: 19th Dec 2008 20:58
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Quote: "So the first thing that actually is working semi-effectively against piracy (or at least frustrating the snot out of pirates), is complained about so much that they remove it. Who plays the same game on multiple computers at a time? Really? I mean I'm sure there are some instances, but what is so confusing about having to buy multiple keys? You want to install it more than once, buy more than one key. Simple math really.

Well whatever. If this is a score for you spore people, good for you guys. I guess. "


There are at least 5 people in my family who would want to play Spore on their separate computers.

Also, there's nothing confusing about getting more keys. Only, who wants to pay more cash for a game already owned? Maybe now I'll have enough reasons to finally purchase this game.
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bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 21:11
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Quote: "Also, there's nothing confusing about getting more keys. Only, who wants to pay more cash for a game already owned? Maybe now I'll have enough reasons to finally purchase this game."


If you want to play a game on more than one computer at the same time, you should be a second copy.

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tha_rami
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 21:51
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Well, whats the problem? Let them buy the game, seeing your license is just for you, not for your entire family.


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bitJericho
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Posted: 19th Dec 2008 22:27
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Quote: "Well, whats the problem? Let them buy the game, seeing your license is just for you, not for your entire family."


Back in my day, we took turns playing games

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Thistle Studios
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EAs One License was a stupid mistake, considering that Spore has some serious technical issues. Take for example when I reached the Space Stage, saved and quit. Now the game will never work ever again on my computer, even after 6 clean reinstalls.


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David R
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Posted: 17th Feb 2009 23:00 Edited at: 17th Feb 2009 23:06
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Quote: "Well, whats the problem? Let them buy the game, seeing your license is just for you, not for your entire family.
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You're going to buy 5 copies of the same game at £30 quid a shot, to be played by people in the same household? Seems like a colossal waste to me, considering it's nothing to do with a physical limitation, it's just an artificial limit imposed by games etc.

That's why I think few people have compassion for game publishers in regards to DRM or the necessity to buy >1 copy for one household. With other media it's understandable, because you have only a single physical copy (e.g. books) Expecting people to buy multiple copies of a product which costs £0 to replicate is stupid though - it's pure greed. It's also one of the things I really dislike about games on Steam - if you buy a game, you can't play against someone else in your house unless you have another copy + account as well. That's just plain ridiculous for LAN games in one house.


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Vickie
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Quote: "Who plays the same game on multiple computers at a time? Really?"

I always do


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AlexI
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When you buy a game for PS3 you get one disc to play the game from. If you have 2 ps3's its tough, you have to buy another copy. Same rules should apply to pc games


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David R
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Posted: 17th Feb 2009 23:12
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Quote: "When you buy a game for PS3 you get one disc to play the game from. If you have 2 ps3's its tough, you have to buy another copy. Same rules should apply to pc games
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PS3's rarely participate in LAN games, not to mention the fact that very few households will own multiple PS3s (in fact, as it is, very few households even own a single PS3 )


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Jeku
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Posted: 17th Feb 2009 23:26 Edited at: 17th Feb 2009 23:27
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There's obvious implications to allowing a family to install copies of its games on several machines in a household. Yes in theory it should be allowed, but it probably opens up a can of worms and difficulties for the publishers.

They *should* allow a game to be bought at a discount bulk price for 2 or more copies... something like that would be more viable. But then you'd have companies buying up dozens to resell for a profit.

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David R
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Posted: 17th Feb 2009 23:31 Edited at: 17th Feb 2009 23:35
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Or just have a certain quantity of "Guest passes" that can be given to machines on the local network, which expire after 24 hours etc. (which are attached to the main serial code/account). The passes could return to a "usable" state after they expire - which could work without loopholes if they were only valid for LAN games etc.

That would be the coolest and most convenient solution to the problem, in my opinion.

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Quote: " but it probably opens up a can of worms and difficulties for the publishers. "


Yeah - less money. Or at least, the illusion of less money, because I think it's money they probably never see to begin with. How many people actually buy multiple copies of a game so they can play it with family members/siblings in the same household? I certainly don't


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Actually that is done right now on certain Steam games--- you can "gift" a game to a friend for free for X number of days. It's pretty cool, and I agree that this should be more widespread

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SikaSina Games
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Posted: 18th Feb 2009 18:05
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Me! Hoorah for disabling the authorization, so I can hopefully install it onto my new laptop I'm saving up for.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2009 05:11
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Quote: "When you buy a game for PS3 you get one disc to play the game from. If you have 2 ps3's its tough, you have to buy another copy. Same rules should apply to pc games"

I don't know... I own a game of Risk, and I didn't have to buy two boards so I can play with my brother.
I know my opinion doesn't count for much in the big world, but I really think that I own a game, I should be able to put it on my computers. If I want to play multiplayer across my computers I should be able to.
I understand that if they allow it within households, that automatically opens the door to share with friends. But seriously, if I wanted to pirate Spore (or any other game), I would download it and play it, and I won't have to worry about the security at all. But I don't want to pirate, I want to buy my game and not worry about jumping through hoops to make it work.

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The admiral
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People will always pirate games anyway they cant stop it. I doubt they loose all that much otherwise they wouldn't still be making games.

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Jeku
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Quote: "I own a game of Risk, and I didn't have to buy two boards so I can play with my brother."


That is not a good argument. Can you both play different games of Risk at the same time with your 1 board? No. Risk is a multiplayer game, as is Madden, which you can play with your brother on 1 disc.

Quote: "I doubt they loose all that much otherwise they wouldn't still be making games."


Many smalltime indie devs have said they may not be able to make other games after such high piracy rates.

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The admiral
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Indies don't suffer from the same piracy issues as main steam gaming does.

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Posted: 20th Feb 2009 16:26 Edited at: 20th Feb 2009 16:27
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Quote: "Indies don't suffer from the same piracy issues as main steam gaming does."


Oh really. Can you explain the numerous examples such as this one:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/11/acrying-shame-world-of-goo-piracy-rate-near-90.ars

I doubt piraters care which company the software is from, but rather which product they are after.

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The admiral
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Only a small percentage have the skills or drive to do it i'm sure you would find this is you a survey was taken.

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