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FPSC Classic Product Chat / DarkVOICES with FPS Creator

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Claws
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 08:27
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I'm really interested in the DarkVOICES product and i'm curious, since no one really talks about it. How hard would it be to implement lip-synced models to the FPSC engine models? Anyone ever did this?
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ozzi mad boy
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 09:58
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isnt it just a picture?

or does it work on models too?

http://www.afrokid-fps.co.nr
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Bejasc3D
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 10:09
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I really need this for my game too.

I spent $70 on a good Microphone, To have a model stand there and not open its mouth, which is kinda annoying.
"animate it yourself" - I cant animate

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muggins majik
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 16:14
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You could use Crazytalk or Poser.
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Cyborg ART
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 16:50
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I dont think DarkVoices is compatible with FPSC

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Claws
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 20:02
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CrazyTalk and Poser aren't really affordable. I loved DarkVOICES and, since it's developed by TGC, should be easy to integrate with the DBP/FPSC family. And that's what i want to know... how easy it is? Anyone did it?

http://darkbasicpro.thegamecreators.com/?f=dark_voices
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TGPEG
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Posted: 26th Jan 2009 20:11 Edited at: 26th Jan 2009 20:12
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I think the answer to your question is no. FPSC character models do not have any where near enough polys and joints in the face to make speech look like anything more than a jiggling mess of polygons.

Could be a potential feature for X10 though. Not sure how it would work.

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Claws
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I see... but, can we at least "simulate" or give the idea of speech? An animation that would be activated when we play an WAV sound? Anyone did this to the default models or have any idea on how to do it? I never worked with model animation before, and animating an mouth, should be a good way to start.
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Aaagreen
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Well, to do this

You need a model with a high enough poly mouth to animate, then you need to create individual animations for each line of speech. Lip syncing the sounds is your problem.

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TGPEG
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Yes, it's much easier to invest in something like Crazytalk and use an animated cutscene. Unless you're going to be forced to stare at the character in the face in the game, it's probably not worth animating it for only a few people to fully appreciate it.

Of course, it's your game, not mine. Best of luck whichever way.

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Plystire
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I say this a lot, I know, but something like this is going to need a modification to the source.

DarkVOICES requires you to program the compatibility into your game. There's no getting around it.

Also, you WILL NEED... repeat that, WILL NEED to make a new model to be compatible with it. It would need to have a joint and possible animation for facial movements.



So here's your answer:
Not easy.


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dumpus
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I suppose you could try to avoid using characters with exposed faces (have the ones that talk wearing masks/suits, etc).

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Rampage
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Posted: 27th Jan 2009 05:25
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What I do is I program a cutscene in DarkBASIC Pro with DarkVOICES then record it and put it into FPSC. Wala, used for an fpsc purpose.


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Posted: 27th Jan 2009 20:37 Edited at: 27th Jan 2009 20:52
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Quote: "What I do is I program a cutscene in DarkBASIC Pro with DarkVOICES then record it and put it into FPSC. Wala, used for an fpsc purpose."

Good idea.

I have heard of people porting FPSC maps into DBP too, so you could bring FPSC to the dark voices instead of bringing dark voices to FPSC.

That would be complicated though, so Muggins' method seems best for me. (CrazyTalk cutscene)
TPEG's right about wasting valuable effort for little return.
Even the mouths done on major movies like Resident Evil: Degeneration were not that good. (they didn't need to be)
So yeah lip synche is really kewl, but time flies when you are having fun.

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Posted: 27th Jan 2009 21:08
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Quote: "TPEG's"

TGPEG

lol you and BVG have misspelt my name in two consecutive threads. I feel a Friday 13th coming along...

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