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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Access rules automaticly created for blah blah blah

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Terabyte
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 03:25
When you write a dbrpo multiplayer game and run it I always end up trigering the firewall. (this is a good sign) but its also bloody anoying and users wont find this very good. There is also a but with this. If you Host a game, and who sombody tries to connect - when the clients firewall is trigered by default it selects block and you have to quickly change the block option to allow and hit the ok button within 3 seconds. if its not done within that time the clientt will not be ale to locate the host (this sounds like a randsom demand) so ive noticed on major programs like wmp norton av/fw msn windows mesenger abd kazaa all tell the firewall to create access rules for them so the user doesnt have to keep beign buged for allowing and blocking. How can i get a dbpro program to do it. Does my program need a security certificate.


cud sombody let me know if they have that "3 seconds to allow or the client wont find the host" problem cus i would really like to report that problem without looking like a smurf.
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MrTAToad
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 04:05
As far as I know access rules can only be created within the firewall itself. Get yourself a router or a hardware firewall - lot less bother.


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Rob K
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 05:18
What FireWall are you using? - You should be able to configure it by program, and your firewall should certainly give you longer to choose (ZoneAlarm here does)

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 16:09
im using norton
I dont want to have to keep configuring my firewall
Most of those major programs i listsed dont tell you to configure them. It all happens automaticly. When you run hte poragm like wmp, as soon as it starts it wants the internet so instead of cotinuously bugging you, when you turn it for the very first time you'll see your firewall pop out and say Access Rules automatically created for wmp.exe.

The firewall givces you as much time as you want to select the option you want. Its just if it takes too long the dbpro client seems to think that there is no host out there at all.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 16:59
I get that too (I use Norton). You have only a few (not very good) choices.

1) Live with it.
2) Switch your firewall to 'Low' settings (I don't recommend this if your online).
3) Add the application to your firewall before you run it for the first time.
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 17:14
OK ill choose option 1 for the moment

Quote: "3) Add the application to your firewall before you run it for the first time."


but i mean surely that can be done automatically. Otherwise how do wmp etc.. do it. I didnt configure my firewall those programs. they did it for themselves. oh well

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 18:06
those programs are demonstrating how bad your firewall is, if they can make their own rules to bypass the firewall and connect to the net then you can bet some malicious sod with too much time on their hands could do the same thing with THEIR code and then rip your account access codes and go for a shopping spree with your credit, not good, NOTHING should be able to access the net without permission, I would be very unhappy if something did on my PC, even if I upgrade/patch a net app the firewall spots the code has changed and asks for permission again, whats the point of haveing a firewall to stop trojans if someone could code the trojan to go round the firewall?.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 18:31
There's nothing wrong with Norton firewall.

The applications didn't configure the firewall ... the firewall configured itself to them (something you can switch off if you're really paranoid). You are always asked whether you want the application to access the net anyway.
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2003 18:33
Thats why a hardware firewall is always the best solution


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