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Dark GDK / DGDK.Net License

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Hayer
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2009 23:06
Hi!

okey, atm im some confused..

Am I allowed to make "game makers" with DGDK.net that I can sell or give away?


Can I make games and sell them with DGDK.Net leaglly?

yerrel
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Posted: 4th Feb 2009 03:17
"Am I allowed to make "game makers" with DGDK.net that I can sell or give away?"

Short: YES YOU CAN..

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Hayer
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Posted: 4th Feb 2009 10:49
mh-m, are u sure about that?
Cause if I understood the comercial license right I cant...

jezza
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Posted: 4th Feb 2009 17:40
Certainly with the DarkGDK (not .net) commercial license you cannot.
kBessa
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Posted: 4th Feb 2009 19:57
No, you can't. Unfortunately I don't have the licence available now, but this is explicit, something about "you may not release a software that allows further games to be developed".

It is only permited if you create some kind of plugin or framework that integrates to dgdk and make use of it, as the person who paid for it would still have to buy DGDK to compile his/her games.

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veltro
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Posted: 5th Feb 2009 02:40
You can't. You can only create shareware game, so no tools, game makers, image management, etc. Very restrictive license
yerrel
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Posted: 6th Feb 2009 04:28
Please be clear about this and read on this page.
http://gdk.thegamecreators.com/?f=order


'An un-restricted royalty-free license to sell whatever you make'

So there you have it..


Cheers,

Yerrel

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Hayer
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Posted: 6th Feb 2009 13:37
yerrel @ Well, a website vs. the eula license thingy.. What do u think the court would stick with?

Well, any mods that can clear up this mess?


( DARK GDK.NET BTW )

code master
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Posted: 6th Feb 2009 23:34
IIRC, they have a line very similar to that in the DBP EULA.

I think the main issue is with directly wrapping the functionality of the engine; for example, if you were to write a script language in DBP(or DGDK) that had all the native DBP commands IN it, that would be a problem.

I think that's what it is referring to.

You can sell anything you make with it as long as your not trying to pass the core functionality of DGDK off as something you made.

Hayer
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Posted: 7th Feb 2009 11:57
Thats what I tought after reading it for thirdtime.

Any mod that can confirm this?

Don Malone
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Posted: 7th Feb 2009 14:20
Quote: "Any mod that can confirm this?"


mods are not employees of TGC and can not give you a legally binding answer. If you need that type of answer, you must contact TGC, and get a clarification from them.

If you wonder if it is the right thing to do, it probably isn't.


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kBessa
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Posted: 7th Feb 2009 22:00 Edited at: 7th Feb 2009 22:02
You can not release any software that allows further games to be developed. PERIOD!

Just read 1.4 (a) from the Commercial EULA:

Quote: "1.4 For the purposes of this Agreement the term "Game" means an interactive entertainment software game whose sole purpose is to entertain its user without further modification and which is made using the Software in accordance with its associated documentation. The term Game expressly excludes:
(a) any software tool or software product which can (or might) be used in order to create further games or other software products;
(b) any software programming language or software development kit ("SDK")
; and
(c) any software library, compilation or collection of graphics and / or sounds from which a particular graphic or sound may be extracted to be used independently of the software in which it was first incorporated;
in each case irrespective of whether or not the primary purpose of such software is to entertain its user."


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