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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Model Pack 23 Problems.

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Cosmic Prophet
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 18:03
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Model Pack 23 has a major problem with the characters being sunk in the floor 1st bone issue. The segments are nice, but since I purchased it for the characters, I'm dissapointed.

I'm using V104.

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Dr Parsnips
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 18:27
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have you tried with a newer version? Possibly these were created in v1.14?

I don't think anyone else is having this problem but i could be wrong? Sorry to hear about this dude!

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Seth Black
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 19:00 Edited at: 2nd Mar 2009 19:08
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Quote: "Model Pack 23 has a major problem with the characters being sunk in the floor 1st bone issue. The segments are nice, but since I purchased it for the characters, I'm dissapointed.

I'm using V104."


...sadly, this was a very common problem, experienced with the use of custom models. It's been known for quite some time.

I am sure most are aware of the fix (which is rather time consuming, and can yield some unpredictable results), but the customer shouldn't be expected to fix an authorized retail product.

It looks like the woes surrounding that particular artist continue, although this one could've easily been prevented, during constuction. Relying on a raise factor, in the .fpe file, to properly position a newly released 2009 custom character on the floor in FPSC is just lame.

Of course, you'll get folks who will ask, "Why don't you just update from v1.04 to a more current version? It'll solve all your problems."

I ask, "Why should anyone have to?"

Cosmic Prophet, I am genuinely sorry for your current situation, and totally understand your disappointment...


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Dr Parsnips
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 19:38
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Quote: "Of course, you'll get folks who will ask, "Why don't you just update from v1.04 to a more current version? It'll solve all your problems.""


Obviously i agree that you shouldn't have to, but if you do want a solution, upgrading will probably solve this. I hope that steve can resolve this issues and update the pack quickly. It may even be worth emailing him about it.

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Flatlander
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 20:05 Edited at: 2nd Mar 2009 20:08
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I have no problems with Model pack 23 (or any of his other characters). There must be a good reason for using v1.04 but I found that Steve's models do work with versions 1.14 and above. I am using 1.15 beta 2. However, I have noticed that sometimes a character (even a stock character) will not set right when you first place it on the map (it seems to depend on the ground segment). At times I have had to edit the positioning of the character by right clicking on it and using Page Up key to move his feet up to ground level.

If you upgrade. You might want to uninstall V1.x (original). This will not effect any of the custom stuff. Then reinstall v1.x and then install the desired upgrade. I actually would recommend v1.15 beta 2 because of some of the fixes and one addition to the integrated store. When you upgrade be sure and use the utility provided to delete all of the bins and dbos.

You might have seen some of the complaints regarding v1.14 and 1.15, however, I have not been able to duplicate any except for one. All that I have reported has been fixed. One that I reported was not fixed but does have a work-a-round for it. And the ones Lee has been able to duplicate have been fixed.

BTW, congrats on the award. Seems that those who are in the model making business are looked upon fondly.

Addendum:

I just looked at your image and yes this is definitely the issue v1.04 had and I believe 1.07 also has some similar issues regarding characters. Obviously, TGC would not allow a model pack to be sold unless it works with their current official release.

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Cosmic Prophet
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Posted: 2nd Mar 2009 21:41 Edited at: 2nd Mar 2009 22:07
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll do the upgrade and see if it solves this issue.

Edit: Thanks guys, that did the trick. Happiness has returned to the Cosmos.

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Kenster
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2009 03:40
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Unfortunately, I am unable to upgrade past V1.09. When I install the new upgrade all my segments are Gray. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but nothing seems to work. I was wondering if anyone has tried this pack with FPSC V1.09? I really want to purchase this pack, but not if it won't work with my version.
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heltor
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2009 04:01 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2009 04:05
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It seems there are many issues with fpsc these days, maybe some packs or upgrades were rushed, I know after reading many of these posts I have reconsidered, buying any new packs from TGC. I don't mind when free packs have issues, but if I pay for a pack, I will expect it to work, with out any modifications on my part. It seems to me refunds may be in order here.

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Cosmic Prophet
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2009 06:48 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2009 06:54
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Kenster: The same happened to me when I tried the V1.14 Update. I then installed the V1.13 Update, and the characters, and my editor is up and running good so far.

Heltor: Naagh! I'm happy I got it working with the update, I just hope I'm not stuck with this version for compatibility issues in the future. Know what I mean?

Edit: This may be an issue that TGC might could address with a simple compatability label for the packs in the future. Just a Thought.

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Dr Parsnips
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2009 11:16
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Quote: "Edit: This may be an issue that TGC might could address with a simple compatability label for the packs in the future. Just a Thought."


Yes I think that would save a lot of these type of threads having to be made. Not that i have a problem with this thread, but with warning you would have known of the issues before hand.

Anyway im glad that you got it working eventually! Hope no one else has issues with this pack!

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Flatlander
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2009 17:06 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2009 17:06
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What I really would like to understand or help with is this issue of not being able to upgrade to a higher version. Cosmic is stuck with v1.13 and Kenster can't upgrade past v1.09. What is preventing an upgrade is baffling to say the least. I suppose I might have come close to this happening and maybe it had and I can't remember; but, I do recall one time things were so bad that:

* I uninstalled v1.0.
* Then I deleted all the bin and dbo files
* Then I made a backup on a CD of all the files left within the FPSC folder (custom stuff),
* then I deleted the folder completely - actually I shredded the files and deleted the folder.
* then I went into the windows registry and deleted everything that had to do with FPSC,TGC,The Game Creators. I made sure that I didn't delete any DBPro stuff, though
* then I re-installed FPSC v1.0

I have not had any real problems since. However, I now make it a practice to uninstall v1.0 and then add the newer update. I know it is pain and it might not have to be done, but that's my decision. You can imagine how many times I uninstall v1.0 since I have been testing the betas. I uninstall every time I want to update to a beta version. Then if I go back to a previous version, I will again uninstall v1.0.

I am not suggesting that a person does this but this is what I am now doing.

I had been self-employed for over 30 years. Then came forced retirement several years ago. Some of my contract work has always been beta testing. I was a beta tester and programmer for Bill Gates in the late 70s through the mid 80s. Didn't do much programming for him as this was long distance work and WAN wasn't as prevalent then as it is now. Anyway I just learned to try and keep things as clean as possible and in the beginning I wasn't doing that.

Sorry for the long post but sometimes I like to reminisce. It's the age you know.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2009 06:52
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I can relate brother! To everything but the Bill Gates thing, I'm a Steve Jobs fan myself.

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Flatlander
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Posted: 4th Mar 2009 10:36
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Quote: "I'm a Steve Jobs fan myself."


I do have to admit that I am more than disappointed with Bill Gates. He had a lot of great ideas and foresight when I was in contact with him. I guess money does have a tendency to go to ones head. I guess I'm probably really sore at him because he doesn't remember me. Found that out a few years ago when he made some trips to Omaha to see his buddy Buffet.

BTW, though, a lot of his success was on just plain good timing and luck. He did work hard to get a deal with IBM and was instrumental in getting them to go with an open architecture on their first attempt at getting into the desktop computer market. He knew that if he did the OS for an open architecture "PC" he would have it pretty well sewed up. What people do not realize though and the historians seem to pass it by is that Tandy Corp. (Radio Shack - TRS-80 models 1, 2 and 3) was instrumental in getting his career off with a bang. Their computers were of course a closed architecture. Well there I go again.

Sorry to be off topic but now that I have typed this I'm not going to delete it but post it.

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