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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:00
So Schwarzenegger has confirmed he's running for govenor of California.

Hmmm, is this realy a good idea ?
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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:10
Hmm, I must go consider it...

I'll be back!

Well, sure, why not. If he does become govenor of California, at least America will have a leader to be afraid of (honestly, do you think George Bush is scary at all?)

I can see it now...

On the battlefield, deep in the heart of war, and theres Schwarzenegger, who has to go into a flaming building to save the president.

"I'll be back" he yells, as he rushes into the flames

5 minutes later, he walks out, president over his shoulder, right as the building colapses behind him.

It'd be on the "News at 11:00" thing too

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:15
True, Bush is only scary to himself when he looks in his shaving mirror in the morning

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:19
I dont mind if arnie moves into politics, hes always wanted to do it from previous moves he has made. He married into the kennedies if im not mistaken. Its no silly than Jesse the body ventura running for colorado right?

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:32
I dont mind if he does go into the run & wins, I would like that, but I would still like to see T4 sometime.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 05:45
you know people like the current governer
but Arnie knows one thing, and thats PR - he is a diamond at it, so i wouldn't be surprised if he made it a tight race.

But somehow i doubt he'll get in ...

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 07:14
Why don't we get movie stars running over here...

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 07:53
Ugh, it's disgusting what a bunch of money and knowing the right people can get ya these days - he's an ACTOR! He should not be in politics...and I bet you he'll win (the reason being, as previously stated, he's an ACTOR!). Which is stupid.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 08:27
Quote: "he's an ACTOR! He should not be in politics"


I sort of agree, but I demand a stipulation -- all entertainers who become pols should be scrubs, like Sonny Bono, another CA pol.

If it is representative government, you do need a variety of people. An actor spices up the legion of lawyers, doctors, and former military who constitute a huge percentage of the US government.

Have you seen our "representative" government? 300 special interests guys, about 30 rabble rousers, and maybe 100 sincere individuals who have largely become disheartened and consider bribes "oil" for the system.

Only total bastards and dangerous idealists get into politics.

Yes . . . my opinion of Arnold has . . . no . . . it hasn't dropped.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 08:50
and ronald raygun wasnt? pfff nancy have u seen my brain lying around....

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 09:11
Pfffff Who cares.. its just arnie.. I wanna see Larry Flint win...

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 09:13
Amen. Flynt . . . today California . . . tomorrow . . . the world won't have him. Shucks.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 09:14
I just don't feel that actors should get in politics though. If he gets elected, I guess that'll be the only way to find out if he'll do a good job or not.




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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 10:05
Why? Because they're actors? That's the dumbest reason I've ever heard. There's no difference between an actor going into politics and a politcian going into acting and I'm sure no one would have a problem with the second case. For all we know he could be just as good a politcian as an actor and there's nothing substantial that says he can't be.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 10:50
Actually, from what I hear, Arnold is very smart, this can be both a good thing & a bad. It can be good due to he may not go corrupt & change the world. However, it can go very bad, he may go corrupt & get that high & mighty attitude, & just screw up this world even more.

Wierd thing is, most political leaders are corrupt, & dont belive what you hear from them & the other people. They have more things on government files that are highest grade security than they have outside of those things.

Most every political leader is in some way corrupt, so I would prefer anarchy to any modern country raining, even though dictatorship is the second best.

I know some things that you guys may not know in your lifetime about clinton & both bushes due to a security leak that I know in the US Army (Colonel, stationed near here in charge of this regions army forces.) I will not give out his name as to protect him, but I will tell you that most political leaders are corrupt, there are a few that arnt & you can count them on one hand, but most are.

I dont mean to offend anyone, but its the simple truth. Oh, & you know something too, most presidents were in fact corrupt. Only a few werent, Washington was a little, but not completely, & Lincoln was not corrupt at all.

I dont care what you are told by anyone, & I give you my word that I am speaking the truth. Also, think about this, back when Clinton was round & that whole scandel was going on, how many different stories from different people did you hear?

Also think about this, have any of you seen the police around? I was 16 years of age, & some teacher attacked me so I beat the living s*** out of him (broke most of the bones in his body.) Then, he was sent to the hospital which at that time, the police didnt even have a statement from him, I told them what happend, & they beat me up, used 2 cans of pepperspray on me, & then threw me in jail & wrote up the statement in the car on the way to juvey.

That is a perfect example of corruption in this world, & if a vote was called to order, I would have a law that would execute any person affiliated with the government on sight, even if they dont have his story in place, but they would need quite a few people that would tell them if they were indeed corrupt.

Perhaps I have what it takes to lead a Nation where people are in fact equal at any age, without any racism, sexism, or any other kinds of hate, where people convicted of any crimes are not thrown in jail, but are killed instantly.

Thats what I like about dictatorship, if they commit a crime of anykind, the laws are very harsh, including but not limited to death, loosing a limb, & torture. It sets an example to the rest of the people out there, not to do the same thing, & create some fear, but also gives the people ease of mind in that there being no crimes at all.

Like my grandmothers friend always says, give him the country for a year, let him make it a dictatorship, with any rules he creates, the jails would be empty, the cemetaries would be full, crime, drugs (abusers,) & alchohol (abusers) will be down quite a bit, then you can have your country back.

Also, think about this, in the US, the Psyciatrists are really the people with the power. If one says you are crazy to the judge & jurry, your butt will be in a hospital, with injections every few hours of stuff to keep you in "line," & you wont be out for at least 20 years. Its very scarry, but they have to have at least 2 to convince a jurry, & in most cases, 3.

Personaly myself, I would rather go to jail that that. I have been to those types of places, & they are worse than jails. I went to to very bad ones, one didnt even allow you to go outside, the other did but with someone always watching down on your back. Not only that, but you will get some real nutjobs in there that are likely to kill you with their bare hands.

In the end, this isnt really a democracy, its more of a scarry type of dictatorship. This may just be my oppinion, but I would rather be living in Australia or some third world country in Africa than in the US at this time.

Myself, personaly, im saving up for an island to go live on with my merc unit, close friends, & what little family I dont hate with my life & dont give me any s***.

I might just go build an aquatic vessil & go find an island in international waters that has no inhabbitants, & move onto that (leagle by international laws.) Right when you move onto an un-inhabbital island, in international waters, it instantly becomes inhabbited & yours, thermal scanners will help in the aid of determining if its uninhabbited, the next thing is sight.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 11:01
Quote: "Thats what I like about dictatorship, if they commit a crime of anykind, the laws are very harsh, including but not limited to death, loosing a limb, & torture. It sets an example to the rest of the people out there, not to do the same thing, & create some fear, but also gives the people ease of mind in that there being no crimes at all."

And what if someone's wrongly convicted or has been framed? Tough luck? And what if that person's you?

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 11:02
Quote: "he's an ACTOR! He should not be in politics"

Hmmm! An actor? Is that what he is? hehe

One wonders if Arnie would run for govenor if Terminator 3 was not a hit. Right now that movie has put him right into the public's eye. Talk about good timing

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 11:55
Ahhh, good luck to him - you can't fault his esteem.

Imagine if he got in then decided to film T4 in Cali!, Matrix Reloaded can keep there mile long highway, Arnie'll close off half the city!.

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No, she's not...


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Quote: "And what if someone's wrongly convicted or has been framed? Tough luck? And what if that person's you?"


Thats why you have a 3 strike rule, & a very thorough investigation.

Quote: "P.S. WTF happend to Linda Hamilton, don't tell me she's not in T3."


She wont be in another terminator movie, I belive she was married to the director of Terminator, & that she divorced him or something like that, thats why she isnt in it.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 13:33
You guys are forgetting that this isn't the first time an actor has took office. Need I remind you of Ronald Regen?

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That sucks, without her the story is pretty pointless - it's just another action flick now .

That's like an Aliens movie without Sigourney.


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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 16:20
Arnie for California? What next?

When I was in California we went to CArmel which has a famous mayor. I think its Clint Eastwood. And I tell you, that was a nice place.

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P.S. WTF happend to Linda Hamilton, don't tell me she's not in T3.

That's like an Aliens movie without Sigourney


Well T3 is NOT made by James Cameron so...and it sux too don't watch that crap I tell ya...

The Hulk is way better,well at least for someone like me who loved the 1980 tv series.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 18:05
honestly what do any of you really care... its only me and puffy that seem to even live in Cali
personally i think he'd make a pretty good governer, i mean he might not have any experience but he certainly is certainly more capable than half of the current contenders.

(btw incase anyone doesn't know, anyone can run for office here - you just have to sign the right paperwork and be a US citizen)
you know there was like suppose to be like 100runners this year, but there are only actually 4 or 5 legitimate runners.
Richard Riordan seems to be a good choice atm, becuase from what i understand he is/was the major of LA ... am told that he's quite good.

i can't vote so whoever i prefer doesnt' really matter, but still it's a weird race. The current guy Grey something - he seems to do a good job but apartently arnie was ripping him a new one last night lol

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Maybe the reaction will be softened when people will get out of under their rocks and find out who's the governor of Minnesota LMAO!

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i can't vote so whoever i prefer doesnt' really matter, but still it's a weird race.



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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 20:49 Edited at: 7th Aug 2003 20:57
I've only just found out that a well known security guard is running aswell, yep Different Stroke's Gary Coleman
Quote: "Raven: "The current guy Grey something - he seems to do a good job...""

Erm... is'nt there a tiny matter of 30+ billion dollars of debt he has not been able to resolve.

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Watcha talkin'bout??

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I'm waiting for the inevitable ballot confusion between Gray and Gary.

Then, there will be hollers that thousands of Gray Something supporters were voting for Gary Something, but the ballat was some confusing.

Only ones in Cali, why does it matter? Well, if your neighbor's house is burning . . .

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Posted: 7th Aug 2003 22:25
well i'll let ya'll sit here and gossip about who's good'n'bad.
to me the current guv seems to have done a good job and a past mayor of LA who i believe was pretty good at his job also would be a good candidate.

think about it the UK government is in a deficit of like what £20biln last year - so i think for a state almost twice the size of the UK (and almost 3x population wise), $30miln isn't actually too bad.

but then i have no voice, so meh!

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Don't think your population figures are correct there Raven. There were an estimated 35million people in California about this time last year. Which makes it.... yep, America's biggest state. Which would then make the UK around 12million using your figures. There was an estimated 59million people in the UK as of the same time last year (England being about 49million if you are interested).

As to the size of the land, then yep, probably is several times bigger than the UK. Hell, apparently NY's national park is several times bigger than Wales (only about 3million from my home country). When you get right down to it we are seriously dense in this country. Arf. Good joke that. ie. for a country where if you drive non-stop at pretty much 70mph from the two furthest points and take you probably no more than 24hrs (although I'm betting more like 15-17hrs) then approx. 60million people takes some beating.

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Oh, and the whole of the US was about 280million last year, if anyone is still reading.

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last time i did the math for it from lands-end to john-o-grots it would take around 16hrs @ 70mph ... however i don't know anyone who drove that slow

the trip from my old place to my grandparents in south wales was a 4hr30min journey, my mom did it in approx 2hrs30-50min
sit there doing like 120 down the M4 after you finally got off the M25

as for the population i could've sworn that the UK popluation was only like 30million - and i though Cali had more people as LA alone has a population of 20million.

Both are costal/boarder places which makes them very ripe for immigrants, i was pretty sure that Cali had a far larger population.

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Nah, I double checked on the gov websites. Knew US was at least 250mil, and UK was more than 50mil.

Am sure it mentioned LA only being about 4 million. Yep just under.

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LA, 20 million... hehe

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US census reports that during the last five years of the 1990s, California lost population.

Not really surprising, as a lot of Californians realized their piece of the West looks more like NE New Jersey (the ass crack of existence) than Sonoma.

A lot of the "don't fence me in" types moved to Idaho, some to LV area, some into Oregon and Arizona.

Many of the techies migrated to the new tech havens, like northern Virginia.

When all is said and done, it is amazing that the Gray Davis administration did not fall apart sooner.

California is too big. Too much like running a country. It should be split, and southern California should be renamed West Las Vegas or Reagan or The Nokai Political Unit, sponsored by QWest.

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I don't think I'd be such a bad Idea; he seems like a pretty good guy, and like he said on the tonight show when he announced it: he can't be sold out, he's already got plenty of money

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Posted: 8th Aug 2003 09:33
ya know...

If I were to establish residency in cali(which may happen.. very soon), pay 3500 and get 65 signatures.... i could run. Damn its that easy.

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Wow I live in one of the most unpopulated vs. geographic size place in the world(if you don't count the deserts)...

We're 6 millions living in a Province that fits the whole France 11 times,just Paris has something like 11 millions people,talkabout overcrowded countries...How do they breathe?(oh,yeah,it's better when they don't j/k )

I'd establish residency either in Georgia or Texas...or any state you actually shoot someone for being on your property.

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Posted: 18th Aug 2003 14:43 Edited at: 18th Aug 2003 14:43
Sorry to bring this back up but I was watching Demolition Man earlier today and noticed that they said Schwarzenegger was the US president at one time. Quite interesting, anyone think he got the idea to run for governor from the movie?

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It's been over 15 years that he talks about it AFAIC.

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