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Programmer Dave
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 06:53
could u fill out some polls for me at http://expage.com/dcdavid99??
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 06:58 Edited at: 9th Aug 2003 06:59
Not much of a poll, is it?

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Programmer Dave
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 07:19
no visit the site, it has polls on it

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8truths
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 08:08
Is this another one of those damned money schemes?!

This is one of those things where you spam people and get them to go to these sites and do all this crap . . .

Is there a 12-step program for this Dave kid?

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Programmer Dave
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 10:27
no, the polls are to help me with my new site coming soon.

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8truths
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 11:29
Your host has a lot of pop-ups . . . or are those yours?

Especially those unwindowed ones that look nearly like skinned progs. Those aren't amusing, and they're hard as hell to close. I really hate having to turn on my blocker when I'm running ray-tracing (I need my memory).

Add one to your poll: can this site get by w/o these ads?

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Cash Curtis III
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 16:57
I voted black, yea black is cool. Its hard to make a white bg site look good sometimes.
Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 17:33
Black, why do so many people go for black?

Please, i know there are loads of websites now that are black, but you need to be pro to make black work.

Also people use black to hide their mistakes.

Try mint green, or light sky blue as a base and change shades you can get very decent results very quickly.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 19:47
I like white. Also the color scheme of DarkBASIC Pro's site is pretty good.

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Ian T
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 19:55
Black and white aren't colors.

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Martyn Pittuck
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 20:43
no they are colours

Anyhow, in computer terms they are now, as the difference only came with black = no colour and white = all colour. Now i can bet you none of you have a perfect white or black screen colour in your screen pallet.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 21:02
I like a black background myself as it brings out other colors. However it all depends on the company profile. DA have 3 colors black, white and red. They really scream and I love it =) However a white background indicates seriousness like the DBP site. And that is good for an app.

Ian T
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Posted: 9th Aug 2003 21:59
No, they're no colours either .

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 00:23
Black and white are colors, darkness and light isn't. The color code for black is #000000 and the color code for white is #FFFFFF. A sheat of paper has the color white. Something without color is transparent. If you blend all colors you get a dark brownish color, or maybe you can get black but mine was brown. If you blend light of all colors you get white light. If you take away all colors of light you get darkness. A black colored surface doesn't reflect any light, a white colored surface reflects all colors of light. Black and white are words that defines the colors we see just like red, green, yellow and blue and all the other colors.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 01:17
' Something without color is transparent'

Actually, no... transparent things can have colors. Remember those tinted translucent plastic legos? Color has nothing to do with transparency; transparency is effected by the molecular structure of the object and can effect any color.

Black and white are not colors, they are shades...

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 01:54
When something is 100% transparent it have no color. If it have color in it then it's not 100% transparent cause you can see it.

No shades are different version of a color that comes from mixing black and/or white with the color. You can have shades of grey for example. But when there's no white left in the grey it becomes black and vice versa.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 01:54
color is what we see when light is relected, white relects all freqs of light therefore we see color, black doesn't reflect any freqs of light black is not a color and you can't see it but it is a mask as it masks objects it is over. when black is over white you don't see the black you see the void in the color white.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 01:58
Just as the color white describes what we see when we see the reflection of all light the color black describes what we see when we see no light.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 02:01
If you go and buy something and you're asked what color then you don't say "no colors" for black or "all colors" for white, you use the words black or white instead.

Ian T
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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 02:33
Because it's a common mistake . Technicly, black and white are not colors. And an 100% transparent thing very well might have color, its molecular structure would simply be such that the human eye couldn't discern it...

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 02:57
I can't actually be bothered but if you where to look up colour in a dictionary I am suer you would beable to fit black and white into one of the meanings.
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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 03:33 Edited at: 10th Aug 2003 03:34
From dictionary.com:

White:
The achromatic color of maximum lightness; the color of objects that reflect nearly all light of all visible wavelengths; the complement or antagonist of black, the other extreme of the neutral gray series. Although typically a response to maximum stimulation of the retina, the perception of white appears always to depend on contrast.

Black:
Being of the color black, producing or reflecting comparatively little light and having no predominant hue.

Color:
That aspect of things that is caused by differing qualities of the light reflected or emitted by them, definable in terms of the observer or of the light, as:
The appearance of objects or light sources described in terms of the individual's perception of them, involving hue, lightness, and saturation for objects and hue, brightness, and saturation for light sources.
The characteristics of light by which the individual is made aware of objects or light sources through the receptors of the eye, described in terms of dominant wavelength, luminance, and purity.


That's what I have been trying to say =)

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 05:47
It's still not the scientific explination tho . Technicly speaking, that's not what color means.

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 14:07
Yes it is =)

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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 16:03
I voted yellow.

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Cash Curtis III
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Posted: 10th Aug 2003 16:36
come on, we are here to vote in Dave's polls not talk about colours.
8truths
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Posted: 11th Aug 2003 11:29
But, Dave's polls were about colors . . .

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Posted: 11th Aug 2003 13:02
Quote: "White:
The achromatic color of maximum lightness; the color of objects that reflect nearly all light of all visible wavelengths; the complement or antagonist of black, the other extreme of the neutral gray series. Although typically a response to maximum stimulation of the retina, the perception of white appears always to depend on contrast.

Black:
Being of the color black, producing or reflecting comparatively little light and having no predominant hue. "


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Posted: 11th Aug 2003 17:10
Ok then lets ask a more annoying question, is it pronounced "aych" or "haych"

Its Haych damnit

As for black and white if there not colos then what are they, they are stil caused from the light hitting out eyes like all the others. Well maybe not black

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Cash Curtis III
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Posted: 11th Aug 2003 17:24
i give up, lets talk about coulors.
indi
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Posted: 11th Aug 2003 21:56
when you goto art school kids they teach you that black and white are tones and not colours. interesting dict.com uses the term there.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2003 01:30
I voted white.




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Posted: 13th Aug 2003 23:07 Edited at: 13th Aug 2003 23:44
I wanted to add one thing about colors : No color exists really as we see it. It depends only on the wave-length of the light, and our (your) brain "shows" you a color. (show is not the good word, but I don't know what I could say, to be more correct)

Humans have 3 kinds of color-captors (they are called cones) in their eyes (red-blue-green : Guess why our screens work that way too), so all colors we see are a mix of these colors.
The red captor will be exited, when a light has some special wave-length (around 700 nm), and the two other captors will be exited at other wave-length.
Black is the result, when none of these cones are exitet by the light (that happens when there is no light, or when there is invisible light, like UV or Infra-Red, because the wave-length are not into the captors-range).
White is when the three captors are exited by the light to the maximum.

Between, some animals have 4 captors, so they "see" other colors than humans.
And other animals, only have one, so they only see Light or No Light or some ligth or a lil more light.
That was for the explanation.

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Posted: 13th Aug 2003 23:40
A different perspective might be that when it comes to Black and White they ARE colors, according to computers. Is ZERO a number? As a programmer I would say yes. Is 255 a number? Again yes. so according to HEX or RGB black and white are colors:

rgb:
0-0-0 black
255-255-255 white

hex:
000000 black
ffffff white

but as we all know, ALL colors are percieved, they don't exist. You know, the whole light wave frequency thing acting on the cones and rods structures in our eyes. LOL

just my humble opinion
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