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FPSC Classic Product Chat / Reflective Weaponry

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Plystire
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 11:48
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Alright, so I was having a little chat with Toasty on MSN just now... and we got into talking about illumination maps on guns.

I have a nice little theory on how it could be done, but when I got into talking about the way FPSC loads in gun shader textures... I found a cool little trick to make the stock scifi tavor look just awesome.


Here's how to do it:
1) Turn Full Shader Effects ON
2) Go into "Files/gamecore/guns/scifi/tavor" and change the name of "gun_I.dds" to "gun_R.dds"


That's it... that's all you gotta do.


Now, put the tavor into a level, and test the game.

Pick up the tavor and look around. You'll see that the lens on the tavor is now reflective!


(NOTE: This is CUBE MAPPING... this is not true reflection, but it looks awesome anyway!!)



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chuckie
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 12:07
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Hi Plystire

Very cool trick - that does look great!

Thanks for sharing.

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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 12:11
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Thanks, chuckie. I thought it made the tavor look 1000x better!

Now that the secret's out, I wonder how long it's going to take before everyone cube maps their weapons?


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djmaster
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 12:18
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Ive already done it on my game .

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Robert F
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 13:40
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Got any pictures?


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djmaster
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 13:44
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Naah but its same as Ply said.Try it.

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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 14:14
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Awesome!

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john schwarcz
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 20:02
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so this works with all weapons ?
(and really noob question, but where do i go to turn shader affects on and off ) lol thanks

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djmaster
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 20:18
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File-Preferences.And it works with all stock weapons.Its a bit of a problem with guns with hands since the reflection is applied to hands too.

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john schwarcz
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 22:13
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ok thanks

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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 22:18
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Good find. Now if only it weren't applied to hands...

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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 22:44
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Sweet, what image does it scroll for the cubemap?

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john schwarcz
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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 23:30
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im having problems with my fpsc at the moment, can some one post a picture of it with a gun and hands thanks

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Posted: 30th Apr 2009 23:43 Edited at: 30th Apr 2009 23:44
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@ CG

There's an image that ends in _cube.dds in each stock gun folder.

It's pretty sweet. How does it work? I mean that by looking at the _R (_I) File. All I see is a black square with two white circles...

EDIT: Never mind the two circles indicate the scope textures...



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Posted: 1st May 2009 00:14
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Here's how it works:

The gun_R.tga/dds file is the "reflection map" texture for the BumpCubeReflectAlpha shader. This map "masks" what parts of the texture should have cube mapping and which parts shouldn't. The parts that are pure white will have the cubemap shown and parts taht are pure black will not.

The cubemap is as was mentioned, the gun_cube.dds file. You can make your own, but the one that came with the tavor was nice enough for testing.


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Posted: 2nd May 2009 02:09
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Bumping this so more people will see it.

I really hope to see more weapons using this later on.


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Posted: 2nd May 2009 02:59
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Pictures or it isn't real =p

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Posted: 2nd May 2009 04:58
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Quote: "Pictures or it isn't real =p"


co'mon please post a photo or preferably a video.

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Posted: 2nd May 2009 05:11
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Yea, I can't do this myself, my computer doesnt even support pixel shader 2, POS

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guys, this cant have a picture, cause you have to see it yourself. It wouldn't even be noticable, cause it dynamically moves. Its hard to explain...
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I would also be interested in seeing the action. Got a vid just for kicks?
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Posted: 2nd May 2009 08:04 Edited at: 2nd May 2009 08:05
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Does this only work with X9? Because I can't find "Turn Full Shader Effects ON" under File-Preferences in X10.

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Posted: 2nd May 2009 08:29
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That is likely because X10 always has it turned on.

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Posted: 2nd May 2009 11:52 Edited at: 2nd May 2009 11:52
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A photo would look no different than what the weapon normally looks like... and a streamd video has such low quality that you won't be able to see it.


I'm sorry, meteorite, but that's just the way it is.

At everyone else... I'm sorry, but you're too lazy to rename a single file, but are fully capable of clicking a link? Seriously, it probably took you more time to post here asking for a picture than it would have taken you to do it yourself.

Does EVERYONE have a graphics card that is incapable of running Pixel Shader 2.0 or something??


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Posted: 2nd May 2009 15:47
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I dunno, but my comp is like 3 or 4 years old, and is crap

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Posted: 2nd May 2009 15:53
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My previous computer was 4 years old too,pixel shaders and everything works.Raedon 9200 pwned back in those days.

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so does x10 automatically do it???

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Sick, I gotta try this.
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could we see a picture because i at the moment dont have a computer that can run FPSC and i want to see what im missing

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*sigh. You guy's don't beleive Plystire or myself.

SO, heres a picture.

Dont say we didnt tell you.

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As Ply said, it's a dynamic effect that doesn't show well in screens...

This works excellently with CoZ's weapon shader, pity it doesn't work on dynamic entities though...

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How would I go about using this with CoZ's weapon shader? do I simply stick a gun_R map in the same folder?

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Um... if his shader is set up to do that, then yes.


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Yeh, I got the feeling it wasn't, although some of the comments suggested it was possible.

EDIT: Actually, it appears that I was wrong in my assumption, it will indeed work and does look pretty damn good in fact. Just need to copy the gun_cube.dds over.

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Glad to hear it! You should post a screenie.


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Does this work in X10? I took a look at the tavor files in X10 and it doesn't have the mentioned cube map file and _I or _R textures..

Also, does it only work with the reflected cubemap image? What I mean is, does it work on the actual environment, or is it limited to the cubemap image? (I'd test it but I'm extremely tired at the moment, will have to wait till tomorrow)

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When I get X10 (by the end of the week) I'll post here.

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Lucky...

I thought you had an ATI card though?

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So? It says in that thread in the X10 board that X10 works with the HD 4800 series...

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Oh, good that they fixed it then, last time I checked, (which was a while ago), they didn't work...

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Ah. Well, at any rate that's good because now I know I haven't wasted over 100 aus bucks...

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Well, here's a shot using my m40a3 model:

I'm quite pleased, because I was annoyed at the rather flat scope texture. I feel it's all that was really needed to finish the model off.

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Very nice, that normal map could use some smoothing though...

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@Jingle Fett:

Not sure what kind of system FPSCX10 utilizes. In FPSCX9 there's a shader that almost everything uses called "BumpCubeReflectAlpha" and that was the shader that made this work.

I'm not sure how FPSC X10 uses shaders. If it's like DarkShader, it might have a "Use Environment texture", and if not.... I hope Lee's reading this and picks up on the hint.


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I was wondering because there was a video on youtube about the cubemapping working on the environment dynamically by putting an invisible cube around the object and the environment would be projected onto that cube, which would in turn apply it to the reflective surface. I heard that feature got nixed from X10 though...

It seems only the images on the cubemap image in X9 get reflected though...which is a bummer because a gun with a mirror on it would make a pretty neat weapon, you could see what's behind you without turning around

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Um i was going to rename the gun_I.dds but i could not find it in my tavor file?
Am I missing the file?
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