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FPS Creator X10 / X10 License

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Gun_Guy
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Posted: 10th May 2009 00:52
I have just red the X10 licensing and I came across this.

\"In most cases, Indie developers who want to make and sell games made in FPSC X10 can do it with the normal standard version. In more commercial situations you will need an extended license for each title you sell\".

Does this mean we can still sell it like on our own website ?
Coach Shogun 20
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Posted: 10th May 2009 07:30
It might be if you plan on selling it in stores, idk though. Sounds like something you could get sued over if your not careful. All my games are going to be free anyway, so it doesn't really apply to me.

Tutelage Systems
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Posted: 10th May 2009 08:26
I believe they had a set limit of if you made over $5000 then you would need to purchase the extended license.

Try emailing support to find out the exact figures though.

Toasty Fresh
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Posted: 10th May 2009 15:10
How much was the extended license? I was thinking about this the other day...

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The Next
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Posted: 10th May 2009 16:40
I have no idea i dont think they actually set it out to be decided when and if a game actually reaches that stage.

Jingle Fett
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Posted: 11th May 2009 05:21 Edited at: 11th May 2009 05:22
I believe it was $2000. It's not bad though--you only have to pay those $2000 after you've made your first $5000. After that, you can make as much as you want. Which is great because a lot of games don't make that much and if you're just making a small simple game to sell to your friends, you can still keep the money you make.

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Deathcow
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Posted: 14th May 2009 13:27
Hi Guys

Try this link it will answer I think all your questions.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=117281&b=33

Regards

DC

The Next
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Posted: 17th May 2009 19:33 Edited at: 17th May 2009 19:33
To make things easier for you
Posted by Lee Bamber on 9th Nov 2007 02:58


Quote: "Hi Guys,

As promised, I have talked it over with Rick and our lawyer dude and have amended the license agreement in X10 to address some of your concerns and make the whole thing five times easier to understand. In a nutshell, you can sell anything you make with FPS Creator X10 using any method you like, royalty free. If you then find after selling your X10 based games you earn more than $5000 (US Dollars) in total (after sales tax) you must buy the extended license to continue selling your X10 based games. No per product, per platform nonsense, just purchase the license once and you can freely earn anything over $5000 for the life of your titles.

This means you can sell through portals, put your game on a CD and sell it, you can be a huge team or even a publisher. It means you can sell what you make right away without paying a penny for a license, and ONLY if your game is successful do you need to worry about the license. A good trick would be to sell your game for $10, and keep $2 back from each sale. When you have sold 500 copies of your game, you have made $4000 in profit and you can afford to buy the extended license with the $1000 you kept to one side.

Also, on the subject of the copyright notices, we only require a mention in the credits of the software somewhere, and if you do a CD/BOX a mention on there too. No need to plaster our copyright text everywhere Nice if it was prominant, but this is not a requirement. Black text on dark grey is a nice trick. If there is demand for it, we might amend the extended license to make this copyright text optional, and something we can discuss if you get into a position where it becomes a factor in being able to sell your game to a publisher or games portal. The bit about using the copyright text in promotional material should be tempered with a bit of common sense, and is down to your own judgement as to whether the text is appropriate for the material in question.

I know we are giving away a lot now with the new EULA, but I feel indie developers must come first, and if anyone is fortunate enough to earn a great deal of money from their stunning looking X10 game, then a free copy of the game would be nice We are perhaps best known for 'affordable' game making solutions, and I personally wish to continue this trend as something that distinguishes TGC in the world of game making.

New EULA text below:


FPS Creator X10
Standard End User Licence Agreement

Please read before installing or otherwise using
FPS Creator X10

By installing the software (the 'Software') on any computer, or otherwise using the Software, you agree that any use of the Software is subject to the terms of this End User Licence Agreement (this 'Agreement'). If you do not agree to these terms please do not install or otherwise use the Software and return the Software unused in its packaging, together with all of its documentation, to the place of purchase for a refund.

The copyright in the Software and its associated documentation is owned by The Game Creators Limited "the Owner". All Rights Reserved. By installing or otherwise using the Software, you (an individual or legal entity) agree with the Owner to be bound by the terms of this Agreement which will govern your use of the Software and your limited right to exploit a part of the Software.

1. Licence

1.1 You are permitted on a non exclusive basis to:

(a) load the Software into and use it on a single computer which is under your control;

(b) transfer the Software from one computer to another provided it is used on only one computer at any one time;

(c) use the Software on a computer network provided you have purchased such number of copies of the Software equal to the maximum number of copies of the Software in use on that network at any one time;

(d) create, in strict accordance with the associated documentation, unlimited Games (as defined below), and copy and issue copies of these Games to the public in object code format only, and subject always to the provisions of section 1.5 and section 4 below.

(e) make a copy of the Software for back-up purposes only in support of the permitted use. The copies must reproduce and include the Owner's copyright notice; and

(f) subject to section 1.2(d) below, transfer the Software (complete with all its associated documentation) and the benefit of this Agreement to another person provided he has agreed to accept the terms of this Agreement and you contemporaneously transfer all copies of the Software you have made to that person or destroy all copies not transferred. If any transferee does not accept such terms then this Agreement shall automatically terminate. The transferor does not retain any rights under this Agreement in respect of the transferred Software.


1.2 You are not permitted:

(a) to load the Software on to a network server for the purposes of distribution to one or more other computer(s) on that network or to effect such distribution (such use requiring a separate licence);

(b) except as expressly permitted by this Agreement and save to the extent and in the circumstances expressly required to be permitted by law, to rent, lease, sub-license, loan, copy, modify, adapt, merge, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or create derivative works based on the whole or any part of the Software or its associated documentation or use, reproduce, exploit or deal in the Software or any part of it in any way;

(c) to copy or distribute to the public or otherwise exploit (on either a commercial or a non-commercial basis) any part of the Software other than within and as an integral part of an object code format Game;

(d) to sub-license any right granted to you in this Agreement unless expressly permitted to do so by the Owner in writing; or

(e) to transfer the Software or the benefit of this Agreement to any person if you have already incorporated any part of this Software into any object code Game.

1.3 To the extent that local law gives you the right to decompile the Software in order to obtain information necessary to render the Software interoperable with other computer programs, the Owner undertakes to make that information readily available to you. The Owner shall have the right to impose reasonable conditions such as a reasonable fee for doing so. In order to ensure that you receive the appropriate information, you must first give the Owner sufficient details of your objectives and the other software concerned. Requests for the appropriate information should be made to support@thegamecreators.com.

1.4 For the purposes of this Agreement the term 'Game' means an interactive entertainment software game whose sole purpose is to entertain its user without further modification and which is made using the Software in accordance with its associated documentation. The term Game expressly excludes:

(a) any software tool or software product which can (or might) be used in order to create further games or other software products;

(b) any software library, compilation or collection of graphics and / or sounds from which a particular graphic or sound may be extracted to be used independently of the software in which it was first incorporated;
in each case irrespective of whether or not the primary purpose of such software is to entertain its user.

1.5 Notwithstanding any term to the contrary, you shall not (and you shall not permit any person to) sell, distribute, license or otherwise commercially exploit any copy of any Game once your total income (net of sales taxes) from all Games incorporating the Software exceeds $5,000 (five thousand US Dollars), unless you have first purchased a separate Extended Commercial Licence from the Owner.

2. Term

This Agreement is effective until you terminate it by destroying the Software and its documentation together with all copies. It will also terminate if you fail to abide by its terms. Upon termination you agree to destroy all copies of the Software and its documentation including any Software stored on the hard disk of any computer under your control.

3. Ownership

You own only the media (or authorised replacement) on which the Software is recorded. You may retain that media on termination of this Agreement provided the Software has been erased. The Owner shall at all times retain ownership of the Software as recorded on the original CD-ROM and all subsequent copies of the same regardless of form. Accordingly, the owner continues to own copyright in the Software including any part of the Software (whether modified or not) which is comprised within an object code Game. This Agreement applies to the grant of the licence contained in this Agreement only and not to the contract of sale of the media.

4. Exploitation of Games

You shall ensure that, in respect of any Game which incorporates any part of the Software and which is created by you or with your permission:

(a) each such Game is accompanied by an end-user licence which repeats the terms set out in the first line of section 5.5 below and which also contains the following term:

'This product was made with, and incorporates part of, FPS Creator X10. All intellectual property rights including copyright in every part of FPS Creator X10 (whether modified or not) are owned by and reserved to The Game Creators Limited.'

(b) the terms on which any such Game is used or exploited by any person include terms binding on all persons using or exploiting the Software which confirm the Owner’s ownership of the Software and the restrictions on the use or exploitation thereof set out in this Agreement;

(c) the packaging and media containing any such Game and any marketing or promotional text referring to such Game shall each include the following legend:

Made with FPS Creator X10. FPS Creator X10 is (c) The Game Creators Limited. All Rights Reserved. www.thegamecreators.com

and

(d) is not unlawful or actionable and does not infringe the rights of any person or breach any law or regulation.

5. Warranties

5.1 The Owner warrants that the media on which the Software is supplied will be free from defects in materials and workmanship under normal use for a period of 90 days after the date on which the media is first purchased ("the Warranty Period"). If a defect in the media shall occur during the Warranty Period it may be returned with proof of purchase to the Owner who will replace it free of charge.

5.2 The Owner warrants that during the Warranty Period the Software will perform substantially in accordance with its accompanying documentation (including the Readme file contained on this CD-ROM) which may include documentation posted on the Owner’s Internet site at www.thegamecreators.com (provided always that the Software is properly used on the computer and with the operating system for which it was designed) and that the documentation correctly describes the operation of the Software in all material respects. If the Owner is notified of material failures of the Software to comply with the above warranty during the Warranty Period it will use its reasonable endeavours to correct the Software or its documentation within a reasonable time so that it complies with the above warranty or (at its option) to procure or authorise a refund (against return of the Software and its documentation).

5.3 The above represent your sole remedies for any breach of the Owner's warranties, which are given only to the original registered user.

5.4 The express terms of this Agreement are in lieu of all warranties, conditions, undertakings, terms and obligations implied by statute, common law, trade usage, course of dealing or otherwise all of which are hereby excluded to the fullest extent permitted by law.

5.5 The Owner does not warrant that the Software will meet your requirements or will be suitable for creating commercial products or that the operation of the Software will be uninterrupted or error free or that defects in the Software will be corrected. You shall load and use the Software at your own risk and in no event will the Owner be liable to you for any loss or damage of any kind (except personal injury or death resulting from the Owner's negligence or loss or damage resulting from any fraudulent misrepresentation made by the Owner) including lost profits or other economic loss or any consequential loss arising from your use of or inability to use the Software or from errors or deficiencies in it whether caused by negligence or otherwise except as expressly provided herein. Save in respect of personal injury or death resulting from the Owner's negligence or loss or damage resulting from any fraudulent misrepresentation made by the Owner, in no event shall the Owner's liability exceed the amount paid by you for the Software.

6. Support

The Owner's technical support staff will endeavour to answer by email any queries in English the original registered user may have regarding the use of the Software or its application for a period of 60 days after the first support service email, which must be made within the Warranty Period. For technical support please visit the support pages at www.thegamecreators.com. The Owner shall use its reasonable endeavours to respond within seven working days of receipt of your email.

7. Law

7.1 This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with English law.

7.2 Each of the parties irrevocably submits for all purposes in connection with this Agreement to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of England.

8. Exclusion of third party rights

No term of this Agreement is enforceable pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 by any person who is not a party to it.

"


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