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FPS Creator X10 / angry at model pack 3

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mgarand
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Posted: 11th May 2009 22:28
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hey guys,

i got problems with mp3 ( i installed x10 version)
the light entities arent there in-game, wall who are doing weird (see screen) does anyone have this too?

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visual dreamer
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Posted: 11th May 2009 22:47
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try dowloading the old mappak of x9 and copy them in your folder it wil work finet then(see the pic)

ps: groeten van holland lol

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mgarand
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Posted: 11th May 2009 23:02
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are your light entities working too?

ps: haha nog een nederlander

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Posted: 11th May 2009 23:40
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no not yet but i am working on that one it has somting to do whit the fpi code,but i wil let you when i now more
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mgarand
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Posted: 12th May 2009 09:52
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Yeh, I saw there was not any texture selected

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Posted: 12th May 2009 12:03
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yea idd but that is not the probleem it is somting els but wat
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mgarand
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Posted: 12th May 2009 12:31
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maybe it isnt a .dds texture like appel_D.tga

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Posted: 12th May 2009 13:30
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Quote: "ps: haha nog een nederlander"


Ek het nie geweet dat hier nederlanders hier op die forum is nie?
Ek is afrikaans amper n' nederlander of pavement special.
Well as for MP3.

I sent Lee and rick a mail with regards to fixing MP3 walls as well as entities a while back.I even posted a thread with regards to fixing the problem your self so there should be no reason to be angry the search function should help a lot.

If I'm not mistaken that thread is still listed on the first page of this forum...

For those who didn't bother to read it here is the fixes again.


MP 3 wall segments fix:
The walls have to have their x,y,z coordinates reset in lithunwrap to 0,0,0 in other words it needs to be centered within lithunwrap

You can then directly export the mesh files back into the correct folders and replace the old mesh files.

However for this to reflect correctly the .fps files for the wall segments needs to updated again.So you need to download FPS segments creator load the room segment fps files from the segment creator and move the meshes back into the correct position.

Once you have done that can you save the room segment and replace the old FPS file

This method works on all segments that have problems for example platforms floors ect.


MP3 fix for door frames and window frames:
Again for this you require lithunwrap you need to import the mesh and again center the model you may require to rotate the mesh to reflect the correct axis which is upright.

You can then follow the step above to import and move the mesh back into the correct position.


MP3 entity texture fix
The texture files needs to be updated to the correct file format as well as the correct filename as well as fixing the missing texture paths to the textures.

In order to do so you need to download DDSconverter 2 it is free and shouldn't be very hard to find.

All texture files needs to be updated to the ddsand DTX 5 format
All texture files needs to be updated to the _D2 filename format
Not all FPE files reflect the correct texture path and needs to be updated via the FPE files to reflect the correct path.

There is currently no fix for problems with animated entities like doors for MP3.


This is very simple instructions to follow for getting MP3 to work correctly.If you have any problem understanding what it is to center a mesh or to edit a FPE with the correct texture file path...

You shouldn't be messing around with MP 3 in the first place or for that matter use X10.

It isn't rocket science you know..!!!!

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Posted: 12th May 2009 13:59
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You shouldn't be messing around with MP 3 in the first place or for that matter use X10."


what do you mean? not using mp 3 in x10? you have a special download and lee checked it and everything was fine he said.

Quote: "Ek het nie geweet dat hier nederlanders hier op die forum is nie?
Ek is afrikaans amper n' nederlander of pavement special.
Well as for MP3."


i dont understand this lol, its a bit dutch, south african?

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Posted: 12th May 2009 15:03
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Quote: "i dont understand this lol, its a bit dutch, south african?"
yip, Afrikaans is naby aan Ducth en nedederlands meer n' mix van die twee.I understand both when spoken slowly and can read basic words as well so you shouldn't have a problem when Afrikaans is spoken it's just harder to understand when trying to read it...

No just irritated how many people still have problems even when posts have been made to fix the problems and Lee still haven't applied or replied to the fixes for MP3....and because they are so easy to fix and then people will still complain.

Not directed at you but yeah common sense wins here if some thing doesn't works some people could have at least have tried to fix the problem own their own before complaining about it.

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Posted: 12th May 2009 15:10
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yup i understand what you mean, when i bought x10 i wanted to make my own segments, with normal and specular, after days of experimenting, testing and much errors, i did it it worked lol, i will repair mp 3 later today

ps: i like south afrikan, is a elevator really ''hijsbakkie''? well it was in the newspaper some afrikan words lol

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Posted: 12th May 2009 15:38
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Quote: "ps: i like south afrikan, is a elevator really ''hijsbakkie''? well it was in the newspaper some afrikan words lol"


Correct spelling "Hysbak" the "kie" u used refers to a small elevator. lol

I presume "ij" replaces the "y" afrikaans uses.

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Posted: 12th May 2009 15:40 Edited at: 12th May 2009 16:22
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lol cool, it sounds better than ''lift'' hysbak, or hijsbak is typically dutch words.

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Posted: 12th May 2009 17:08 Edited at: 12th May 2009 17:09
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Quote: "typically "


Oh, so now I'm typical?? LOL
BTW what do you call a pavement/sidewalk in nederlands in afrikaans it's called a sypaaijtie and if you translate that directly back to English it's then called a sidepath lol

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As for MP3 come on guys it's really that easy.

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Posted: 12th May 2009 17:10
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Quote: "No just irritated how many people still have problems even when posts have been made to fix the problems and Lee still haven't applied or replied to the fixes for MP3....and because they are so easy to fix and then people will still complain"


When it's supposed to work right in the first place?And the solution isn't that simple to me and I've been around here quite a bit.
How about if the model pack 3 just worked right?Wouldn't that save a lot of time and aggravation.
I don't know what it is about model pack 3...it's like it's cursed or something...

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Posted: 12th May 2009 17:18
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but the wired ting is that i can see the models in edditor correctly,but when i test the game only cast shadows off.


------>http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=150486&b=33
to see a picture of it
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Posted: 12th May 2009 17:19 Edited at: 12th May 2009 17:23
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Quote: "I don't know what it is about model pack 3...it's like it's cursed or something..."


It's a simple problem the fix is also simple but requires the engine code to be modified.

Here are some of the possible causes.
The X importer for X10 could have been rewritten.
The FPS files could be read differently in X10.
Whole mesh system is different.

A simple fix to the problem would be to fix the MP3 pack to comply with the new settings and config of the engine to me it's a lot easier to do than trying to rewrite months of code to comply to just one specific MP pack.

And future packs wouldn't have that problem as long as it has centered mesh coordinates

Quote: "but the wired thing is that i can see the models in editor correctly,but when i test the game only cast shadows off."


Maybe because the light entity doesn't have a texture assigned to it or the texture is not in the correct format...Did you even read the post about the fixes...did you even bother to check the FPE files ??

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Posted: 12th May 2009 22:35
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@wizard, i think we call it zijpad.

ontopic. well i understand you wizard, but i think we mean, that if you pay money for it you want ''service' (of zoeits )

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Posted: 18th May 2009 17:55 Edited at: 19th May 2009 01:45
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I

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Quote: "that if you pay money for it you want ''service' "
AAHH

But there is the catch you want service however MP3 was never intended to work on X10 hell it was created even before X10 became a pipedream.

So one can't blame Lee or TGC for it not working correctly.However with that said TGC could have looked at compatibility and being a little less limiting on supporting meshes while coding X10.

TGC is partly to blame for the problems we have been having.

I however noticed the narrow minded approach Lee has implemented in both X9 and X10 not much has changed in either version.I bet my left knee cap that not much will change with the migration version.

Sadly it would seem Lee is stuck on a repetitive rinse cycle....

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Posted: 7th Jun 2009 18:38
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Did you update to version 1.09? That might help...

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