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FPSC Classic Product Chat / third camera,,,any free solution?

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nikas
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a want to make a third camera view but it can only be done eith plys mod...i dont have a credit card cause in my country you must be 20 years old to have one...i am only 18 demn it...is there any other mod or sript or any trick to have a 3rd person camera?i read once you can have an character as gun...but lost the topic is there any way?

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What about the trial/shareware/demo/jurkass-version/beta/alpha version of Ply's Mod?

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yes its ok...i hate splash screens

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The newer versions of Ply's Mod will not have a splash screen. Instead, it will simply disallow building games without purchasing the Mod.

It was really up to people like you. Would you rather get something for free (in exchange for advertising Ply's Mod in your games) or would you rather that I require you to pay for it?
It's because of comments like these that I decided to appease the masses and remove the splash screen in favor of required payment to build games.


If you lack a credit card, why not create a paypal account, then make something worth money and sell it to earn yourself some global cash?


Quote: "jurkass-version"


Was that really necessary? Was it pertinent to include that in your list, or was it that the list of possible terms that could be used wasn't long enough for your liking?


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ply i need help, i have the free version, and no problem with splash screen! it can have 3-4-5 and i will be happy to
I want to know where is the file i need to edit to make the game third person

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Posted: 8th Jun 2009 04:19 Edited at: 8th Jun 2009 04:19
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just because it has a simple splash screen means nothing. He's kind enough to allow you to build your games, so its only fair if you repay him with a little ad here and there.

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Quote: "where is the file i need to edit to make the game third person"


There is no specific file to do this. You will need to make your own script in order to do that.

First you will need to make a character entity that will act as your character, then make a camera (in that entity's script) that will act as the third person camera. Offset the camera to the position you want, then script it to allow you to look around based on mouse movement.

This is not an easy thing to accomplish by any means. You will need to script EVERYTHING from movement and animations to firing and weapon swapping. I did not even get to handling weapons when I made a 3rd person script, all I had it do was take control of a character and let me move around with them.


I believe meteorite was working on a better 3rd person script at one point in time.


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hey i love plys mod i have it....sory for the missanderstanding but i like it i dont have any problem with you or your mod....i just hate greece that idea with paypal...i am gona try it....but question where will the money will go?straight in to my pocket?what do you mean i really want plys mod

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PayPal is kinda like a bank, but only online. It will also convert money to other forms of currency, so there's never any worry about whether or not you can accept a certain type of foreign currency. It's also very secure, and when you DO get a bank account, you can register it with PayPal so that you can transfer funds to/from it as well.


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ohhh then i will sell something and will buy your mod....XD...thanks

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Yes, I have attempted 3rd person shooting, and may pick it up again sometime. The main reason I kinda let that idea die was because of the extreme complexity of the scripting, and the mathematical knowledge which I probably lack.

Here's where Plys stock script needs to be improved-

Adding a "cap" to camera angles, as it is you can keep looking down/up and do a full circle around the back front of the character.

Add shooting, that keeps in mind the rate of fire and weapon type.

Write it so that multiple characters swap out, allowing diff weapons

These many chars will cause a raging fps drop.

In the end, its hours of work, toil, and testing, for something quite inefficient.

And with my rate of scripting, I would forsee this as 50 hours minimum, because I am horrid at working out bugs. And when I get frustrated, I will stop a script for a week. Overall time, it would take me an entire year probably.

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Well it is quite possible.

Can someone aprove this:

Third Person Theory:

- when keypressed wasd/space then animate the character
------- problem you cant use mouse buttons for fire. maybe crtl and `
- assosiacte the player with entity above the character
- if character walks/runs/animate the eneity will move along, by folowing the character
- so the player will folow along, you can easily position the entity just in a third person view and the player will be assiated with the entity, if you make a script for that the entity follows the character, the player "cam" will folow


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I think that would most awkward to use Ctrl and ` for firing/zooming.

Moving around isn't the problem, Red Eye. It's the weapons the player has that is the issue.


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Besides, you can set up for mouse shooting, thats how I had mine going

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Quote: "I think that would most awkward to use Ctrl and ` for firing/zooming.

Moving around isn't the problem, Red Eye. It's the weapons the player has that is the issue."


Ok i understand.

Quote: "Besides, you can set up for mouse shooting, thats how I had mine going"


you can?


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Posted: 9th Jun 2009 16:30 Edited at: 9th Jun 2009 16:31
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Sorry for double post: Forum dont let me edit???

Halo uses z to zoom. [ i know also mouse ]

Doom uses Ctrl to shoot. [ i know also mouse ]

EDIT: It does let me edit? Wierd


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And with weapon scripting coming soon to Ply's Mod, you will be able to set up the controls to be whatever you want for shooting and zooming as well.

I have already tested using "Z" for zooming and another keyboard key for firing and it works quite well.


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Yep

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is there any script for the fpsc without mod?

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A script for the "first person shooter" without a Mod? Yeah, just put down a start marker and let it go.

A script for a "third person shooter" without a Mod? Maybe... but if it were doable, it probably wouldn't achieve the effect you're thinking of.


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whel if anoyone have it just give it to me and i ll work on it and see how far i will go

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Quote: "so its only fair if you repay him with a little ad here and there.
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i would much rather have a splash screen on my games then have to pay, mainly because i think ply needs some credit for a sweet mod...
and also because i use the newer verion of fps creator and ply's mod is the only mod that gives you airmod for the newer versions!
and i want to build games...

ply: would should put both on... so people can choose which one they want.

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Because of recent discoveries for pirating methods, the splash screen version will not be recreated.


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Hell, I'd pay AND have a splash screen if necessary

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whel my other problem is that i dont want to upgrade ny fpsc cause i ony like 1.14 cause for me my computer only 1.14 makes shadows on the floor wall etc....when i upgrade it the shadows just dissapear....and i this sucks...so i cant use plys mod or any other mod

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Quote: "when i upgrade it the shadows just dissapear."


change it in setup.ini


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how do i do that????????????????

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ok i got the plys mod now can anyone help how to use it???

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I thought Plystire had give away a basescript [like a base mesh] for third person, I could be wrong. Maybe performing a search with my friend: "Searchie".

Or you could ask Plystire.

- Thought it is a very nice thing for all of us. -


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