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FPSC Classic Models and Media / CoZ's 2009: PS 3 Shader thread -W.I.P- [For Sale]

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creator of zombies
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Greetings,
As the title states, this will now be my main shader W.I.P thread for the remainder of 09, and with this I bring you some Improved shaders. Below are some previews of my work, and I would just like to know two things:
*Would you pay for them
*How much would you pay?



[Model By Errant, Shader by me]



Please bear in mind that each of these shaders took a considerable time to develop, so dont go suggesting stupid prices...Donations are welcome though....

Feedback welcome

CoZ

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I'd pay bout 8-10$ for each one, that is if i could use shaders in the first place... stupid ATI

Look great though dude!


All the best

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Quote: "that is if i could use shaders in the first place... stupid ATI"

I will make P.S 2 versions of the shaders for those who have ATI cards

CoZ

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Nice shaders! Very nice!

But depends. Can we use those shaders on segments? Or on static entities?
If so, than i would say something like Ekipshi said. Maybe something more.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2009 22:23 Edited at: 9th Jun 2009 22:24
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@Cheese Cake: The shaders shown so far are only for use on characters, since those are the shaders that work best in FPSC. In regards to object shaders, I shall most probably make some more, although I did release pretty much every shader under the sun in one of my several threads sometime ago. These shaders shown are new to the forum, and I believe Errant is the only user with a copy of the shader at the moment due to model testing.

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if it will be a little pack i will pay 10/13 dollar for it,depends...

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Thanks for the comments al. Just hook me up via email or forum post if you require any of the shaders for your projects

CoZ

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Posted: 9th Jun 2009 23:30 Edited at: 9th Jun 2009 23:33
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Great job on these effects, I'm especially liking the shader on EAI's model.

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Quote: "Thanks for the comments al. Just hook me up via email or forum post if you require any of the shaders for your projects"


how much do you want for that shader on the ww2 guy?

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About £2-3 british money considering It was a (Female dog) to make, and caused me many hours of pain from banging my head against the wall in fustration.

CoZ

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Posted: 9th Jun 2009 23:39 Edited at: 9th Jun 2009 23:40
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lol that hurts well i would like to buy it! we can discuss that via mail or add me via msn

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Okay no problem. Contact me at: [email protected] when ready and we can discuss it there.

CoZ

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I can't really tell there is a shader on the Swat guy from Errant... Others look good. I wouldn't pay for them though but only because I also know how to make them.

If you don't know how to make them then I would suggest buying them. They are fairly well shaders.
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Dumb question; do shaders in FPSC only work with dynamic lighting? I.E., will normal/bump maps still appear/function in a level with static lights?


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Kravenwolf They work fine fith static lights. The following pics are all static-only.

JoeGrizzly- here's some comparison pics between Coz's shader and the stock fastbone shader (which really isn't much of a schader other than it just changes the rendering pipeline- I think.

(Coz- hope you don't mind me posting images in your thread)





I also have another image of testing on a different character in conjunction with dll bloom but I won't display/hotlink it because it might border on AUP guidelines and I wouldn't want to offend the sort of innocent eyes which blush when seeing their sister's barbie Up to you if you want to post it.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1496/eaifemalebasewip1.jpg

As testimonial I'd like to say that the shader I'm testing performs quite well. It's about the same speed or a little faster than the stock shaders (bumpbone.fx, etc.) and much faster than bumpcubereflectalpha.fx.

The spec is still a little strong for my taste but I might be missing how to moderate spec value. Coz, is spec moderated through an alpha channel in the normalmap or something? That's something I haven't tries yet. Simply having a _S map present doesn't seem to have any change. I would like the clothing and skin more matte but something like the goggle lenses with very high spec. Is that possible with the shader I am testing? If so, I think it would make the shader nearly perfect for a wide variety of characters.
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Posted: 10th Jun 2009 18:59 Edited at: 10th Jun 2009 19:00
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@Errant AI: No problem! Anything to showcase my work on your great looking models.
Quote: "spec moderated through an alpha channel in the normalmap "

Correct, although If you want a specific value I can always change the amount of Spec in the code, So if you have a particular value/amount in mind, let me know. Regarding the matte look, this can be achived by softening the Normal map, although as far as I can tell from previous tests, It's not possible to apply to different shader styles to one particular model (This is down to the same issue I encountered when making weapon shaders). So the conclusion is, If you require a lower spec value in a quick time frame, let me know via email and Ill get a copy over to you.
Moving on to your female base model (which looks very nice in both senses of the word), Are you thinking as using that as a base for my body request that I mentioned in a earlier email to you, because that would be sweet.

Stay tuned for more releases

CoZ

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I see it now. I just couldnt tell because I didnt have anything to compare it with. Thanks for uploading the pics Errant.
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how do i go about getting that soldier from EAI?

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Any change to have a goodlooking one for the Lowpoly Modelpack 4 Chars. I`ve been working hours on the effects but I still get ugly seeable polys.

I would love to see something usefull for these. I can`t use unshaded Characters in my environement.



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Wolf, thats probably because they are low poly. So it will be hard to get a perfect shader for it.
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@Wolf- You would likely need to take the MP4 models into an appropriate 3D application and bake a normalmap to avoid the wierd artifacts you get by filter converting a bumpmap to a normalmap but you may have extra hurdles because most of those characters have mirrored UVs.

@CoZ- Yep. That's the model I'll be starting with (Same model I started the soldier with lol). I tried adding the spec as an alpha channel but I didn't notice any difference. Do you think I am doing something wrong?
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@JoeGrizzly: Yeah! Sadly I haven`t had any good results at all, so the enemys in my game will be... less graphically.

@EAI: Thanks for the Info, but me and a modeling programm is like Chuck Norris and good Movies. It doesn`t fit.



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@Wolf: What about Dodgeball? That was a good movie with Chuck Norris in it.

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Quote: "@Wolf: What about Dodgeball? That was a good movie with Chuck Norris in it.
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Also a hilarious one, but he was only in a few scenes if I remember correctly.

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Quote: "I would just like to know two things:
*Would you pay for them
*How much would you pay?"

Hmm
Quote: "Please bear in mind that each of these shaders took a considerable time to develop, so dont go suggesting stupid prices..."

Hmmmm

Quote: "I'd pay bout 8-10$ for each one, that is if i could use shaders in the first place... stupid ATI "

Wow, I was thinking around $4 to $5 each.
So, like $5 for individual shaders and maybe a pack of 5 for $20.

Quote: "Thanks for the Info, but me and a modeling programm is like Chuck Norris and good Movies. It doesn`t fit."

lol, do the math...

Bad Movie * Old = Chuck Norris


Quote: "What about Dodgeball? That was a good movie with Chuck Norris in it."

What about it is right.

Quote: "but he was only in a few scenes if I remember correctly"

That's because he was needed back at the nursing home because it was his turn to call the BINGO numbers out.

Chuck Norris named his TV series Walker, Texas Ranger because he was too old to run.

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Quote: "Also a hilarious one, but he was only in a few scenes if I remember correctly."

But they were important ones.

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Quote: "Also a hilarious one, but he was only in a few scenes if I remember correctly."
But they were important ones."


dont you guys remember this one:




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Oh man Red eye that screen is great!

But CoZ the shaders you showed in these threads.
Are they also usable on static objects? Or doesnt FPSC render static objects with a shader?

Cause the shaders look great! But it wouldnt be very catchy if only characters had shaders and the rest of the objects and level dont.

Of course its better to have something and nothing.

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Quote: "Are they also usable on static objects? Or doesnt FPSC render static objects with a shader?"


I doubt it, sadly because of DarkLights, static shaders don't work too well...

It's a real shame, I'd pay for a static shader for sure...

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Quote: "dont you guys remember this one: "

LOL
That is a cool picture.
I like the 300 videos floating around on the tube.
This 300 video is about the best editing work I have seen for awhile.

Back on topic: When can we expect the release of some of the shaders?

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How much would I pay? Sadly nothing cause I dont have the money to buy.Good luck with sales.Looks good btw.

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Hey mate these look really good.

but what are shaders and how are they made?


thanks

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Shaders make models look shiny, in layman terms. They're used to emphasise detail on objects.
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OFFTOPIC:
Quote: "Oh man Red eye that screen is great!"




Quote: "LOL
That is a cool picture.
I like the 300 videos floating around on the tube.
This 300 video is about the best editing work I have seen for awhile."


Very Nice Mate, Very Nice. May I show you also a movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qKD-Ph7ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k

ONTOPIC:
Nice Shaders


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really cool shaders! could use a little more gloss though oooh i love gloss lol really great!

also can we see them compared to your other shaders and x10

(still would love to see more glossyness)

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The shaders are the bomb CoZ! Before today I wouldn't pay anything for them since I only owned x10, but I just got the Bonanza so now I can. I would probably pay 6-8 USD for them, each. It'd be cool to release them as a pack, with a minor discount.

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