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Geek Culture / Getting Ubuntu

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Gunn3r
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 20:45
Right now, I'm downloading the latest release of Ubuntu. I'm planning on setting it up on a VMware disk so that I can toy around with it without having to give up my host OS (Windows 7 RC). I've never used Linux or any other form of it, so I'm not sure exactly what I'll be doing with it, but I'm doing this because I've heard it's a great OS, so I thought I'd try it out. Are there any suggestions as to what I should check out in Ubuntu?

Satchmo
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 20:52
Try it out sure, don't install it though. I put it on a 20gb partition on my hard drive and all it does is sit there talking up space lol. It's just not worth all the trouble of switching to a replacement os, and even still Ubuntu isn't for most people.

TheComet
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 20:58 Edited at: 4th Jul 2009 20:59
If you need help setting it up, just ask me.

Quote: "Are there any suggestions as to what I should check out in Ubuntu?"


Hmm... There is SOOOO much to check out... I'll give you a top 3 list of mine plus how to install them:

1) WINE

2) Compiz fusion

3) Ubuntu games


A few tips:

-NEVER just pull out a removable volume. Always right click on it and click "unmount"
-Try to use the terminal more often. It is much easier and is nothing like DOS.
-If you have a program on windows that wont run under wine, you will most likely find a remake of it, just much better for ubuntu.

Hope that helps you!

TheComet


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Aertic
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 21:10
Wise choice my freind!
Ubuntu is a Operating System you won't regret having...

First off, you're going to need to know some trials and errors I had when installing... That were easily fixed...
(This is a full installation, not a VM run)...

First off, Ubuntu can use the Fat-16/32 format, however, it is wiser to use EXT-3 or EXT-4(Providing that you'll have to use the partition manager)...

Also when making your partition make sure it's mount is "/"... Just that, not "/Boot" or anything else...

Also you'll want to download your drivers... the Best way that I did this is by going to desktop>Right-click>Wallpaper,
Then going to the Wall-Effects tab, then select the bottom option...

Also! Ubuntu is really easy to use, and the Terminal is a perfect example of that - It's much more easier and quicker to use than Windows' dos...

Also I recommend you sign up too...

Also you can install Ubuntu on your Play-Station 3 aswell! Which is one reason for me to buy a PS3... D: Sadly I went for xbox...

But other than that! Gl ; HF!

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SageTech
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 21:36
Ive been using Ubuntu on and off for a few years. I have
to say I personally prefer it to windows for many reasons, one being the customization available. Compiz can do some amazing things with your desktop look and feel. I can't say I miss anything from windniows, becuase most everything I use works under WINE. I will be installing an xp partition alongside my Ubuntu install soon, but only because I want to try XNA development and as far as I can tell Visual Studio does not play nice with WINE.

A lot of Linux users will get on their high horse and criticize Windows because its the popular thing to do, but really on the front end Linux is not that different from windows, its almost like using windows with some extra perks. And while Linux is definitely more secure then windows - I wouldn't say Its as stable as people brag it is. I have Programs lock Up on me just like in windows - Maybee slightly less so, but still, its not impervious to freezing.

Overall though, I think you'll find its a very cool Operating System, and it can do preatty much anything windows can. And some stuff it can't.
Gunn3r
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 21:47
Thanks for the tips. I noticed that Wine pretty much is the way to go. Would you recommend Wine over VMware?

JoelJ
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 21:48
Quote: "Try it out sure, don't install it though"

Quote: ". I'm planning on setting it up on a VMware disk so that I can toy around with it "

Better idea: Each Ubuntu disk has a program called Wubi on it. What you do is burn the cd and put it in your computer (or mount the iso), and select the option "Install Ubuntu without making changes to your computer". This will install Ubuntu like any other program in windows (you can even uninstall it in the Add/Remove Programs thing in Control Panel). But now you can boot into it just as if you installed it on it's own partition. Just restart your computer and select Ubuntu from the boot up. If you don't like it, uninstall it. No problem

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Aertic
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 21:52
Quote: "Thanks for the tips. I noticed that Wine pretty much is the way to go. Would you recommend Wine over VMware?"

Uhh... WINE is for Ubuntu, it's a program that "Emulates" Windows programs to work under Ubuntu... It's like the Boot-camp of Ubuntu...

VM-Ware as you should know is for windows and allows you to run OS' under it...

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Gunn3r
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 22:01
Quote: "Uhh... WINE is for Ubuntu, it's a program that "Emulates" Windows programs to work under Ubuntu... It's like the Boot-camp of Ubuntu...

VM-Ware as you should know is for windows and allows you to run OS' under it..."

VMware is also on Linux and Mac...
I know what Wine is, but I'm curious as to which is more efficient, and which would run applications better.

NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 4th Jul 2009 23:49
Programs would run faster under Wine but more stably in a VM.

Mr Z
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Posted: 5th Jul 2009 00:06
Quote: "Try it out sure, don't install it though. I put it on a 20gb partition on my hard drive and all it does is sit there talking up space lol. It's just not worth all the trouble of switching to a replacement os, and even still Ubuntu isn't for most people."


It is worth it, but only if you like Ubuntu . If you hate it, it would be a waste of space... long for, try it in a vm, on a computer you can experiment on or possibly wubi (which does not work as well as a "normal" install).

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Gunn3r
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Posted: 5th Jul 2009 00:16
Quote: "on a computer you can experiment on"

Right now, I'm living with my aunt and uncle (long story), but when I move back home next week, I am planning on making another box anyway. I think I'll install Ubuntu on that and then keep my nicer machine for Windows 7. I like both of them a lot, and I think in order to reliably run Windows programs, and to reliably program Windows programs, I'm gonna stay with Windows. But that doesn't mean I dislike Ubuntu. On the contrary, actually. I really like the functionality it gives. Heck, even though Ubuntu is running in a VM session in VMware Workstation, it's still running a whole lot quicker than Windows is...

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