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Mugen Wizardry
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Posted: 27th May 2010 20:44
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is this free?

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Posted: 27th May 2010 23:37
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As a purchaser of Dark Clouds, when and where can we download this update?

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Posted: 28th May 2010 00:13
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Quote: "when and where can we download this update?"


Keep an eye out for the next newsletter, we should have solid news for you by then.

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Posted: 28th May 2010 10:39
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Quote: "is this free?"

DarkClouds itself is not but I'm hoping the update will be to existing customers

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Posted: 29th May 2010 04:33
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I bought the plug-in and loved how easy it is to use. Some fixes needs to be done with the rain if it didn't already get fixed with the new version thats about to come out.

Perfect skies and clouds. I was amazed how you can fly through the clouds and go over them and look down. Perfect for a flying game. Keep it up.
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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 10:25
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@ BatVink,

Checked the download link this morning... how soon til the updated version is there for download? (Mr Impatience)

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 10:28
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@ Roderick,

Any chance also (if not done already) of revised demos in the updated download to show off planets, sun, stars, moon and/or alienesque atmospheres???

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 10:31 Edited at: 1st Jun 2010 10:31
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@Duffer, all I know is that it's imminent. It's all there, but obviously needs to go through the diligence process to get it packaged etc.

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Mike Johnson
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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 14:58
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The new installer is now available as a separate download in your order history.
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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 15:44 Edited at: 1st Jun 2010 15:52
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@ Mike & Roderick,

Just to mention that some of the wonderful new commands like the dc set sun and dc set planet commands are recognised and used in code but cant be in the ini keywords file (query - are they covered in help? F1) as they dont show highlighted when you look at the DarkClouds sample code....?

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also the dc set scattering command not covered in the ini/help...

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See the keywords ini as it now is after the update - not sure why DBPro not seeing the commands - is it something to do with the gap lines?

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 16:21
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Works on mine - all new commands are highlighted and F1 help works.. Duffer can you try removing the gaps in your .ini file and let me know if that fixes it? Thanks

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 16:31 Edited at: 1st Jun 2010 16:35
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I get the same thing, new commands aren't highlighted...



There was one line blank in the ini but it made no difference when I deleted the empty line.

EDIT: Just "re-built" keywords and it's fine now (never used that before but then I'm new to Synergy Editor)...

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@ Roderick,

See attached for screenie of what DBPro IDe makes of the code with and without the editting of the ini file.

Have emailed you this and ini file as well.

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@Duffer, check my previous post, I think this is an editor problem as I just re-built my keywords and now it's fine.

Which editor do you use?

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 16:39
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@ Roderick,

baxslash wins the prize - I just rebuilt keywords and et voila - it now works fine...

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 20:48
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OK, so where do you download the darn update?

I read the newsletter, visited the Dark Clouds page on DB Pro's website and I cannot see any download link for existing customers.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2010 20:53
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Quote: "The new installer is now available as a separate download in your order history."


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The new version of DarkClouds crashes for me. I was using the latest official version of DBpro, but tried to update to the new beta version after I got the DarkClouds crash. If I re-install the old version of DarkClouds, it works again. This happens in my project and in the example supplied with DarkClouds. I just get a window that says "DarkBasic Pro Project has stopped working".



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Posted: 2nd Jun 2010 01:32
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I downloaded and installed it. When I try to compile, it is telling me it cannot locate 'd3dx9_42.dll'. I have been running DirectX 9.0c for a long time. Does DarkCLOUDS utilize a newer DirectX version?

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2010 01:49
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Also, I just downloaded the U74 patch to DBPro. But when I look at the about box it says, 1.071. Shouldn't that say 1.074?

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2010 10:18 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2010 10:19
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Quote: "The new version of DarkClouds crashes for me. I was using the latest official version of DBpro, but tried to update to the new beta version after I got the DarkClouds crash. If I re-install the old version of DarkClouds, it works again. This happens in my project and in the example supplied with DarkClouds. I just get a window that says "DarkBasic Pro Project has stopped working"."

I get the same problem exactly. Strangely, when I installed it on my second (work) PC which is not quite as good spec it will compile but looks terrible...



...wishing I'd tried the compiled version at home now...

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Always update your directX just in case.

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Looks like updating DirectX will work in the short term to fix these issues - please let me know if not - but I will fix it so it isn't necessary.

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2010 16:06
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Just to confirm, updating DirectX fixed the problem for me also.


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So, how do you change the sky color? In one of the pictures, the sky is pink.

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I was wondering about that too...

I updated DX and still get the same dodgy looking clouds on my work PC. The previous release worked fine on this machine so I don't see why that would make any difference anyway. I guess your tweaks increased the minimum requirements for the plugin...

What are the minimum requirements for DarkCLOUDS? I need to know anyway in case I want to release a game!

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Posted: 4th Jun 2010 19:44 Edited at: 4th Jun 2010 20:01
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Quote: "So, how do you change the sky color?"

It's the 'dc set scattering 7,11,24' command which controls the Red, Green and Blue values of the sky and clouds color.
You can achieve the same effect with changing the 'dc set sun color 0.6,0.65,0.6' values. You can get some very nice alien atmospheres with those two commands.
And the shadows on the planets (from the sunlight that shines) changes accordingly to the position of the sun.
It's a very nice plugin.

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Quote: "I updated DX and still get the same dodgy looking clouds"

...bump. Sorry but this is getting quite frustrating now...

I used the update for DirectX here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en

As far as I can tell that's the latest one but someone mentions 9.42 higher up so I checked and that one is in my "system32" directory...

HELP!?

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Sorry for the double post but I just checked the downloads page and...


...mmmmmmmm

Saw this on youtube looks very nice!
http://www.youtube.com/user/simulsoftware#p/a/u/0/WluLUXMg604

Shame it no worky (new version either) as per my last few posts here

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Just tried the new commands. AWESOME! It looks very good

The only thing that I have any dislike for is the amount of time that it takes to initialize DarkClouds. I know it is doing a lot, but it really increases to the amount of time it takes my app to start. It would be useful if you could save the current state of DarkClouds, then load that when your app starts instead of DarkClouds recalculating everything from scratch.
Very nice plugin though! Please keep the features coming

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Is there any official word on a Dark GDK version. Is one in the works or not planned at all?
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This is working nicely on my home computer but I have some questions about the new commands...

1- What are the upper limits in Rayleigh scattering?
2- In "Set sun color" are the values between 0.0 and 1.0 for RGB? ...and "Returns an integer color value.", what does this mean?

Also regarding setting the position of planets, a better explanation of how to use the x,y,z angles would be a massive help!! For example:

3- How do I position a planet at 270 degrees in y (or East) and 15 degrees from the horizon?

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When I move the camera to the sun quickly or away from the sun quickly, the sun behaves strangely.
I guess it is a kind of bug...
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Quote: "When I move the camera to the sun quickly or away from the sun quickly, the sun behaves strangely.
I guess it is a kind of bug... "


I get a similar problem. The sun will grow/shrink quickly.


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Baxslash:

1. Not really sure - large values would be like looking through thick fog or gas.

2. Integer colors - these are the RGBA colors DBPro uses, with 8 bits per color and 8 bits for alpha.

colour=b+(g<<8)+(r<<16)+0xFF000000;

As for your other bugs on some hardware, I think it's to do with alpha-blending support with older GPU's. Can you tell me what cards you have on the machines and what result each one produces?

3. East is positive x, so this would be (1,sin(15),0) and sin(15) is about 0.26.

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@Roderick_Simul, thanks that's a huge help!

Quote: "Can you tell me what cards you have on the machines and what result each one produces?"

The GPU I'm having problems with is quite old actually, I'm running an ATI Fire GL V3100 and getting the result I posted previously:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/xt/xt_apollo_pic.php?i=2024958

It's not a huge problem for me as it works at home on my more recent card. If you're interested by the way I'm using DC to produce a skybox/skysphere maker called "EnviroScope" here:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=171506&b=8

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Clouds disappearing

Hi,

In the DarkCLOUDS sample when you move upwards until you're above the cloud base/level, the clouds disappear. Does anyone know how to prevent this or is this how it's supposed to work ?

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