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Geek Culture / Need help choosing a new graphics card.

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AtomR
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Location: Portugal
Posted: 27th Jul 2009 14:42
Hey guys i've recently decided to buy a new graphics card due to the low frame rates I get while programing and playing wow. My DBP application rapidly slows to a crawling 30fps just by adding a shader to a terrain. If your game goes from 300fps to 30fps with only one shaded terrain then that doesn't bode well for the rest of the project. Yes, the shader may also be very unoptimized but i still think its a good choice to get a new card.
I can not decide on one tho. First and foremost I remember there were issues with DBP and ATI cards in the begging of DBP and that made me stick to NVidia for the past years. But I wonder if the issues still exist and if I should be limiting myself in options if the ATI prove themselves better then NVidia in the price range I set for myself.

I currently have a GeForce EN7600GS 512Mb DDR2 which is SLI ready and I'm wondering a few things. Do we need a SLI compliant Mobo to connect two graphics card and do those graphics cards need to be of the same series to be SLIable(?). Can I connect my 7600 to a new 9600 or would it have to be another series7?

I'm inclined towards the Asus GeForce PCI-E 9600GT 1Gb GDDR3 for under 94€. Is there a better option in this price range? For instance a cheaper ATi with same results or one in same price with better results? Should I give an extra 18€ and buy Asus GeForce PCI-E 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3? In www.tomshardware.com I see that the 8800GT has slightly better benchmarking results then the 9800GT but I can't understand how that can be possible? In nvidia site I see they have the exact same GPU specs and memory specs and only differ in that 9800gt has Hybryd Power and Geforce boost (which my mobo most likelly won't support) so how can the 9800gt do better?

Another concern is this: My next-gen graphics needs are all met with my PS3. Other then world of warcraft I don't play any games on my PC. I want this new card for programing with DBP purposes, thinking on a posible DBPX10 in the (not so) near future. Are these cards made to be DX10 cards that happen to still support DX9 or are they still created with both DX9/10 in mind and are still an investment for DX9 graphics endeavors.

Take care
AtomR
Asteric
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Location: Geordie Land
Posted: 27th Jul 2009 14:52
hmm, i got a real nice 4850 for about, £100

AtomR
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Posted: 27th Jul 2009 15:24
So there are no problems these days working with DBPro with an ATi?

Take care
AtomR
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DBPro Master
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Location: Robbinsdale, MN
Posted: 27th Jul 2009 16:03 Edited at: 27th Jul 2009 16:04
Quote: "Can I connect my 7600 to a new 9600 or would it have to be another series7? "
No, you would need another 7600 (not just another 7 series) and I think they need to be the same manufacturer and model.

Quote: "Are these cards made to be DX10 cards that happen to still support DX9 or are they still created with both DX9/10 in mind and are still an investment for DX9 graphics endeavors."

I actually used to have a Geforce 7600GT, and for a while it was great. I now am running a Geforce 9600GT and it runs DX9 games about 2-2.5 times faster than my old card. Since DX10 still hasn't really caught on, I think it would be foolish to release cards that only benefit DX10.

I have noticed some odd (unexpected) behavior with my 9600 compared to my old 7600. Things like screen and texture resolution don't have nearly as much impact on FPS as it did on my 7600.
GatorHex
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Location: Gunchester, UK
Posted: 28th Jul 2009 21:54 Edited at: 28th Jul 2009 21:57
I use an ATI 3850 (45nm same as a 4850 but cheaper) they made them with a firmware bug. Everyone sells them on ebay for peanuts because they think the fan/heat controller is bust but it's an easy firmware patch, someone at ATI made a typo I think it's just a missing decimal point LOL I've got 3 of them they work fine with DBP and the ultimate in energy efficency

The Nvidia 9600 is not too bad, was my other alternative, but beware of the Nvidia 8800GTS 320Mb they are an old design and kick out loads of heat and require a small power station to run your PC

DinoHunter (still no nVidia compo voucher!), CPU/GPU Benchmark, DarkFish Encryption DLL, War MMOG (WIP), 3D Model Viewer

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